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TheRoDent

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I feel you on a spiritual level here xD

Playing Solo is fine, i don't care about being put on Brazil server then.

Playing with mates, the PUBG algorithm places us on a server with the least ping overall (Which because no other ISP wants to be as forward thinking as CISP) means we get placed on EU servers...

Thats where my issue comes in, because i'm on the server i want to be on, but it's routing via brazil for an EU connection... If that makes sense?

Yeah this one I sorted out, by simply de-peering all of New York at the NYIIX and DE_CIX new york. The IP we checked is actually USA based.

I'm |-| this far from just dropping the SACS cable.
 

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Yeah this one I sorted out, by simply de-peering all of New York at the NYIIX and DE_CIX new york. The IP we checked is actually USA based.

I'm |-| this far from just dropping the SACS cable.
PUBG really has a STUPID server select system! I feel your pain!
 

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Playing Solo is fine, i don't care about being put on Brazil server then.

That's the crazy part too. Why does a solo game require a server.... ?

Edit: What does PUBG solo even do ? Does one just explore the map with no people on it ?

Edit2: I have PUBG in my steam library, BTW, but I refuse to play an FPS with international pings.
 

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What in tarnation:

Code:
|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
|                                      WinMTR statistics                                   |
|                       Host              -   %  | Sent | Recv | Best | Avrg | Wrst | Last |
|------------------------------------------------|------|------|------|------|------|------|
|                             192.168.0.1 -    0 |   14 |   14 |    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 |
|                   No response from host -  100 |    3 |    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 |
|            c25-backbone.coolideas.co.za -    0 |   14 |   14 |    3 |    4 |    9 |    5 |
|            c2e-backbone.coolideas.co.za -    0 |   14 |   14 |    2 |    2 |    4 |    3 |
|            c2t-backbone.coolideas.co.za -    0 |   14 |   14 |    2 |    2 |    4 |    2 |
|            c1h-backbone.coolideas.co.za -    0 |   14 |   14 |    3 |    3 |    5 |    5 |
|                uuu-cust.coolideas.co.za -    0 |   14 |   14 |    3 |    4 |    5 |    4 |
|            c6t-backbone.coolideas.co.za -    0 |   14 |   14 |   11 |   12 |   13 |   12 |
|                             100.99.0.82 -    0 |   14 |   14 |   11 |   12 |   14 |   12 |
|                uzi-cust.coolideas.co.za -    0 |   14 |   14 |  175 |  177 |  183 |  176 |
|               u102-cust.coolideas.co.za -    0 |   14 |   14 |  176 |  177 |  183 |  177 |
|                   linx-lon1.as13335.net -    0 |   14 |   14 |  180 |  183 |  197 |  193 |
|                         one.one.one.one -    0 |   14 |   14 |  176 |  177 |  182 |  179 |
|________________________________________________|______|______|______|______|______|______|
 

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Anyway, @DuckKnuckle and other folks that have EU routing issues, can you send me the traceroute info from http://www.kloth.net/services/traceroute.php

I see a 70 ms latency hop (still inside the EU) from Hetzner to our network that doesn't make sense.
Code:
traceroute to 155.93.xxx.xxx (155.93.xxx.xxx), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
 1  static.33.75.46.78.clients.your-server.de (78.46.75.33)  0.291 ms  0.233 ms  0.208 ms
 2  core22.fsn1.hetzner.com (213.239.229.253)  0.281 ms  0.258 ms  0.276 ms
 3  juniper4.nbg1.hetzner.com (213.239.252.225)  4.065 ms juniper5.nbg1.hetzner.com (213.239.252.241)  2.604 ms juniper5.nbg1.hetzner.com (213.239.252.237)  2.549 ms
 4  ae5-710.nbg40.core-backbone.com (81.95.15.5)  2.759 ms  2.737 ms  2.695 ms
 5  5.56.20.102 (5.56.20.102)  79.898 ms  79.881 ms  79.858 ms
 6  uxa-cust.coolideas.co.za (154.0.4.174)  219.724 ms  219.564 ms  219.535 ms
 7  ush-cust.coolideas.co.za (154.0.4.1)  224.016 ms  223.971 ms  223.961 ms
 8  * * *
 9  155.93.240.30 (155.93.240.30)  222.359 ms  225.807 ms  225.792 ms
10  155.93.240.36 (155.93.240.36)  225.813 ms  225.909 ms  225.884 ms
11  155.93.xxx.xxx (155.93.xxx.xxx)  220.600 ms  220.468 ms  220.384 ms
 

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That's the crazy part too. Why does a solo game require a server.... ?

Edit: What does PUBG solo even do ? Does one just explore the map with no people on it ?
Well it's always multiplayer vs 99 other people

When i say solo i mean it's every man for himself
Duo is teams of 2 vs everybody else in teams of 2
squads is teams up to 4 vs everybody else in teams up to 4
 

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Yeah this one I sorted out, by simply de-peering all of New York at the NYIIX and DE_CIX new york. The IP we checked is actually USA based.

I'm |-| this far from just dropping the SACS cable.
Anyway, after I filtered the traffic and depeered them HARD, 62.115.113.175 now looks like actual EU routing.

WIN! And fortunately this was a soft reconfigure, so not affecting services.

The problem with an IP like 62.115.113.175 for example is that it is announced by Softlayer (the IBM datacentre) in both the EU and the US.

I announce to them in the US, and they prefer that path back here, regardless. It seems like Hurricane Electric routes had better preference than Cogent in this scenario, but it's still a toss-up.

Basically it makes no sense to peer in the USA. Brazil will stay up for now.
 

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Code:
traceroute to 155.93.xxx.xxx (155.93.xxx.xxx), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
1  static.33.75.46.78.clients.your-server.de (78.46.75.33)  0.291 ms  0.233 ms  0.208 ms
2  core22.fsn1.hetzner.com (213.239.229.253)  0.281 ms  0.258 ms  0.276 ms
3  juniper4.nbg1.hetzner.com (213.239.252.225)  4.065 ms juniper5.nbg1.hetzner.com (213.239.252.241)  2.604 ms juniper5.nbg1.hetzner.com (213.239.252.237)  2.549 ms
4  ae5-710.nbg40.core-backbone.com (81.95.15.5)  2.759 ms  2.737 ms  2.695 ms
5  5.56.20.102 (5.56.20.102)  79.898 ms  79.881 ms  79.858 ms
6  uxa-cust.coolideas.co.za (154.0.4.174)  219.724 ms  219.564 ms  219.535 ms
7  ush-cust.coolideas.co.za (154.0.4.1)  224.016 ms  223.971 ms  223.961 ms
8  * * *
9  155.93.240.30 (155.93.240.30)  222.359 ms  225.807 ms  225.792 ms
10  155.93.240.36 (155.93.240.36)  225.813 ms  225.909 ms  225.884 ms
11  155.93.xxx.xxx (155.93.xxx.xxx)  220.600 ms  220.468 ms  220.384 ms

OK, this part also seems to be resolved now.
 

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So, that was related to a DNS issue as per your post. If you "nslookup cli.speedtest.net 154.0.1.1" does it give you a proper result ?
Yes it does.
What i querying, is why when i query the root servers directly, i am getting timeouts ?
 

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You know what I actually don't even know anymore. I take it Cloudflare is upset with our country or something broke and they busy re-routing while they fix.

Cool Ideas Main
Code:
|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
|                                      WinMTR statistics                                   |
|                       Host              -   %  | Sent | Recv | Best | Avrg | Wrst | Last |
|------------------------------------------------|------|------|------|------|------|------|
|                             192.168.0.1 -    0 |   12 |   12 |    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 |
|                   No response from host -  100 |    2 |    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 |
|            c25-backbone.coolideas.co.za -    0 |   12 |   12 |    2 |    3 |   11 |    2 |
|            c2e-backbone.coolideas.co.za -    0 |   12 |   12 |    2 |    3 |   11 |    2 |
|            c2t-backbone.coolideas.co.za -    0 |   12 |   12 |    2 |    3 |   11 |    2 |
|            c1h-backbone.coolideas.co.za -    0 |   12 |   12 |    2 |    3 |   11 |    3 |
|                uuu-cust.coolideas.co.za -    0 |   12 |   12 |    2 |    3 |   11 |    2 |
|            c6t-backbone.coolideas.co.za -    0 |   12 |   12 |   11 |   12 |   16 |   11 |
|                             100.99.0.84 -    0 |   12 |   12 |   11 |   12 |   16 |   14 |
|                uzi-cust.coolideas.co.za -    0 |   12 |   12 |  175 |  176 |  178 |  175 |
|               u102-cust.coolideas.co.za -    0 |   12 |   12 |  175 |  176 |  180 |  177 |
|                   linx-lon1.as13335.net -    0 |   12 |   12 |  177 |  179 |  183 |  179 |
|                         one.one.one.one -    0 |   12 |   12 |  176 |  177 |  181 |  176 |
|________________________________________________|______|______|______|______|______|______|

Webafrica failover 01
Code:
|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
|                                      WinMTR statistics                                   |
|                       Host              -   %  | Sent | Recv | Best | Avrg | Wrst | Last |
|------------------------------------------------|------|------|------|------|------|------|
|                             192.168.0.1 -    0 |   10 |   10 |    0 |    0 |    5 |    0 |
|                   No response from host -  100 |    2 |    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 |
|           102-65-120-25.ftth.web.africa -    0 |   10 |   10 |    3 |    6 |   12 |    6 |
|           102-65-120-26.ftth.web.africa -    0 |   10 |   10 |    2 |    4 |   11 |    2 |
|                           100.66.145.44 -    0 |   10 |   10 |    2 |   10 |   61 |    4 |
|ethernet8-100.terdbn-igw1.net.echosp.link -    0 |   10 |   10 |    2 |    3 |   10 |    4 |
|     rndf-ip-ll-1-wan.telkom-ipnet.co.za -    0 |   10 |   10 |    2 |    4 |   11 |    3 |
|                            196.25.146.8 -    0 |   10 |   10 |   12 |   14 |   18 |   12 |
|                          196.25.146.253 -    0 |   10 |   10 |   11 |   14 |   21 |   21 |
|                            10.189.18.30 -    0 |   10 |   10 |   20 |   21 |   23 |   23 |
|             cloudflare.v4.peers.djix.dj -    0 |   10 |   10 |  111 |  112 |  120 |  111 |
|                         one.one.one.one -    0 |   10 |   10 |  110 |  112 |  114 |  110 |
|________________________________________________|______|______|______|______|______|______|

Vox failover 02
Code:
|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
|                                      WinMTR statistics                                   |
|                       Host              -   %  | Sent | Recv | Best | Avrg | Wrst | Last |
|------------------------------------------------|------|------|------|------|------|------|
|                             192.168.0.1 -    0 |   19 |   19 |    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 |
|                   No response from host -  100 |    4 |    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 |
|                           41.193.73.214 -    0 |   19 |   19 |    1 |    2 |    6 |    2 |
|                           41.193.73.220 -    0 |   19 |   19 |    2 |    2 |    4 |    3 |
|                            41.193.72.94 -    0 |   19 |   19 |    2 |    3 |    5 |    2 |
|                           41.193.118.26 -    0 |   19 |   19 |   12 |   15 |   34 |   15 |
|                           41.193.119.10 -    0 |   19 |   19 |  180 |  183 |  200 |  181 |
|                   ldn-b5-link.telia.net -    0 |   19 |   19 |  180 |  182 |  206 |  182 |
|                  ldn-bb4-link.telia.net -    0 |   19 |   19 |  180 |  181 |  184 |  182 |
|                   ldn-b4-link.telia.net -    0 |   19 |   19 |  180 |  182 |  190 |  181 |
| cloudflare-ic-339870-ldn-b4.c.telia.net -    0 |   19 |   19 |  184 |  186 |  196 |  184 |
|                         one.one.one.one -    0 |   19 |   19 |  184 |  185 |  186 |  185 |
|________________________________________________|______|______|______|______|______|______|
 

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Yes it does.
What i querying, is why when i query the root servers directly, i am getting timeouts ?
Could still be an artifact from when we were filtering vehemently during the weekend's drama. I take it you're running your own resolver such as unbound or bind?

A trace or some debug would help.
 

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You know what I actually don't even know anymore. I take it Cloudflare is upset with our country or something broke and they busy re-routing while they fix.

Cool Ideas Main
Code:
|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
|                                      WinMTR statistics                                   |
|                       Host              -   %  | Sent | Recv | Best | Avrg | Wrst | Last |
|------------------------------------------------|------|------|------|------|------|------|
|                             192.168.0.1 -    0 |   12 |   12 |    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 |
|                   No response from host -  100 |    2 |    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 |
|            c25-backbone.coolideas.co.za -    0 |   12 |   12 |    2 |    3 |   11 |    2 |
|            c2e-backbone.coolideas.co.za -    0 |   12 |   12 |    2 |    3 |   11 |    2 |
|            c2t-backbone.coolideas.co.za -    0 |   12 |   12 |    2 |    3 |   11 |    2 |
|            c1h-backbone.coolideas.co.za -    0 |   12 |   12 |    2 |    3 |   11 |    3 |
|                uuu-cust.coolideas.co.za -    0 |   12 |   12 |    2 |    3 |   11 |    2 |
|            c6t-backbone.coolideas.co.za -    0 |   12 |   12 |   11 |   12 |   16 |   11 |
|                             100.99.0.84 -    0 |   12 |   12 |   11 |   12 |   16 |   14 |
|                uzi-cust.coolideas.co.za -    0 |   12 |   12 |  175 |  176 |  178 |  175 |
|               u102-cust.coolideas.co.za -    0 |   12 |   12 |  175 |  176 |  180 |  177 |
|                   linx-lon1.as13335.net -    0 |   12 |   12 |  177 |  179 |  183 |  179 |
|                         one.one.one.one -    0 |   12 |   12 |  176 |  177 |  181 |  176 |
|________________________________________________|______|______|______|______|______|______|

Webafrica failover 01
Code:
|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
|                                      WinMTR statistics                                   |
|                       Host              -   %  | Sent | Recv | Best | Avrg | Wrst | Last |
|------------------------------------------------|------|------|------|------|------|------|
|                             192.168.0.1 -    0 |   10 |   10 |    0 |    0 |    5 |    0 |
|                   No response from host -  100 |    2 |    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 |
|           102-65-120-25.ftth.web.africa -    0 |   10 |   10 |    3 |    6 |   12 |    6 |
|           102-65-120-26.ftth.web.africa -    0 |   10 |   10 |    2 |    4 |   11 |    2 |
|                           100.66.145.44 -    0 |   10 |   10 |    2 |   10 |   61 |    4 |
|ethernet8-100.terdbn-igw1.net.echosp.link -    0 |   10 |   10 |    2 |    3 |   10 |    4 |
|     rndf-ip-ll-1-wan.telkom-ipnet.co.za -    0 |   10 |   10 |    2 |    4 |   11 |    3 |
|                            196.25.146.8 -    0 |   10 |   10 |   12 |   14 |   18 |   12 |
|                          196.25.146.253 -    0 |   10 |   10 |   11 |   14 |   21 |   21 |
|                            10.189.18.30 -    0 |   10 |   10 |   20 |   21 |   23 |   23 |
|             cloudflare.v4.peers.djix.dj -    0 |   10 |   10 |  111 |  112 |  120 |  111 |
|                         one.one.one.one -    0 |   10 |   10 |  110 |  112 |  114 |  110 |
|________________________________________________|______|______|______|______|______|______|

Vox failover 02
Code:
|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
|                                      WinMTR statistics                                   |
|                       Host              -   %  | Sent | Recv | Best | Avrg | Wrst | Last |
|------------------------------------------------|------|------|------|------|------|------|
|                             192.168.0.1 -    0 |   19 |   19 |    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 |
|                   No response from host -  100 |    4 |    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 |
|                           41.193.73.214 -    0 |   19 |   19 |    1 |    2 |    6 |    2 |
|                           41.193.73.220 -    0 |   19 |   19 |    2 |    2 |    4 |    3 |
|                            41.193.72.94 -    0 |   19 |   19 |    2 |    3 |    5 |    2 |
|                           41.193.118.26 -    0 |   19 |   19 |   12 |   15 |   34 |   15 |
|                           41.193.119.10 -    0 |   19 |   19 |  180 |  183 |  200 |  181 |
|                   ldn-b5-link.telia.net -    0 |   19 |   19 |  180 |  182 |  206 |  182 |
|                  ldn-bb4-link.telia.net -    0 |   19 |   19 |  180 |  181 |  184 |  182 |
|                   ldn-b4-link.telia.net -    0 |   19 |   19 |  180 |  182 |  190 |  181 |
| cloudflare-ic-339870-ldn-b4.c.telia.net -    0 |   19 |   19 |  184 |  186 |  196 |  184 |
|                         one.one.one.one -    0 |   19 |   19 |  184 |  185 |  186 |  185 |
|________________________________________________|______|______|______|______|______|______|
Yeah quad 1 seems to work fine in Cape Town, will investigate as to why DBN->Joburg->Cloudflare is doing that ....
 

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Yeah quad 1 seems to work fine in Cape Town, will investigate as to why DBN->Joburg->Cloudflare is doing that ....

Seems to be returning back to normal on my other accounts, going back to ixp durban. Except the CISP one, still routing to cape town, but like over 13 hops.
 

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Seems to be returning back to normal on my other accounts, going back to ixp durban. Except the CISP one, still routing to cape town, but like over 13 hops.

Ok, then they did de-announce for some reason. The CPT route will be preffed for now, until we do some additional tweaks. Cloudflare is cloudflare though. The dropped the entire NAP DC a while ago due to transit issues, when even MyBB routed international during the first major DDOS attacks in September.

It's their right, I suppose... Not much we can do about it.

And of course, make no mistake Cloudflare takes their own brunt of DDOS attacks. So they probably deal with it in this way...
 
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blacklung

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Could still be an artifact from when we were filtering vehemently during the weekend's drama. I take it you're running your own resolver such as unbound or bind?

A trace or some debug would help.

Running DJB tinydns & dnscache..

Code:
traceroute to 151.101.2.219 (151.101.2.219), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
 1  u6u-cust.coolideas.co.za (154.0.0.246)  2.438 ms  2.380 ms  2.361 ms
 2  uwx-cust.coolideas.co.za (154.0.4.161)  2.337 ms  2.321 ms  2.303 ms
 3  uxa-cust.coolideas.co.za (154.0.4.174)  2.286 ms  2.271 ms  2.254 ms
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Code:
traceroute to 151.101.66.219 (151.101.66.219), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
 1  u6u-cust.coolideas.co.za (154.0.0.246)  2.446 ms  2.385 ms  2.365 ms
 2  uwx-cust.coolideas.co.za (154.0.4.161)  2.349 ms  2.332 ms  2.315 ms
 3  uxa-cust.coolideas.co.za (154.0.4.174)  2.300 ms  2.284 ms  2.265 ms
 4  * * *
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Running DJB tinydns & dnscache..

Code:
traceroute to 151.101.2.219 (151.101.2.219), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
1  u6u-cust.coolideas.co.za (154.0.0.246)  2.438 ms  2.380 ms  2.361 ms
2  uwx-cust.coolideas.co.za (154.0.4.161)  2.337 ms  2.321 ms  2.303 ms
3  uxa-cust.coolideas.co.za (154.0.4.174)  2.286 ms  2.271 ms  2.254 ms
4  * * *
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Code:
traceroute to 151.101.66.219 (151.101.66.219), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
1  u6u-cust.coolideas.co.za (154.0.0.246)  2.446 ms  2.385 ms  2.365 ms
2  uwx-cust.coolideas.co.za (154.0.4.161)  2.349 ms  2.332 ms  2.315 ms
3  uxa-cust.coolideas.co.za (154.0.4.174)  2.300 ms  2.284 ms  2.265 ms
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Hmm, this doesn't make sense. Works fine for me from CPT Customer Ranges. Would you mind PM'ing me your IP ?
 

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Well all is good, just going to keep an eye on what time things get tweaked ;)

Drop me a PM with this info too, because your config should force you to connect to the closest advertised range your ISP sees, so routing via DJI or direct to London is very strange.
 

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Drop me a PM with this info too, because your config should force you to connect to the closest advertised range your ISP sees, so routing via DJI or direct to London is very strange.
If the ISP sees it :)

On this scenario (as ghostRgg showed) they withdrew announces accross several different ISP's.
 
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