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PBCool

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Every stream i attempt to watch seems to get served from South America.
Doesn't matter where the streamer is actually based
Would you have a trace for me at all? I'll do some tests from home now and see which paths the stream takes.
 

DeatheCore

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@PBCool If you have a chance could you please look into whats up with my slow international download. Upload is fine tho. I know @jannier is having the same issue.

Vumatel 1000/100 Cape Town, Northern Suburbs (Panorama)

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DJZassie

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Would you have a trace for me at all? I'll do some tests from home now and see which paths the stream takes.
Happening right now on fuzzface49 's stream. He is in Sweden.

Currently pulling the stream from 52.223.209.58

Trace isn't very helpful unfortunately


Code:
|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
|                                      WinMTR statistics                                   |
|                       Host              -   %  | Sent | Recv | Best | Avrg | Wrst | Last |
|------------------------------------------------|------|------|------|------|------|------|
|                            172.18.7.225 -    0 |  106 |  106 |    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 |
|                            155.93.231.1 -    0 |  105 |  105 |    2 |    2 |   15 |    2 |
|                           155.93.240.34 -    0 |  105 |  105 |    2 |    3 |   33 |    2 |
|                           155.93.240.25 -    0 |  106 |  106 |    0 |    0 |    1 |    0 |
|                              100.98.0.1 -    0 |  106 |  106 |    0 |    0 |    1 |    1 |
|                uxa-cust.coolideas.co.za -    0 |  106 |  106 |    1 |    1 |    1 |    1 |
|                   No response from host -  100 |    3 |    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 |
|                   No response from host -  100 |    3 |    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 |
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|________________________________________________|______|______|______|______|______|______|
   WinMTR v0.92 GPL V2 by Appnor MSP - Fully Managed Hosting & Cloud Provider
 

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Happening right now on fuzzface49 's stream. He is in Sweden.

Currently pulling the stream from 52.223.209.58

Trace isn't very helpful unfortunately


Code:
|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
|                                      WinMTR statistics                                   |
|                       Host              -   %  | Sent | Recv | Best | Avrg | Wrst | Last |
|------------------------------------------------|------|------|------|------|------|------|
|                            172.18.7.225 -    0 |  106 |  106 |    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 |
|                            155.93.231.1 -    0 |  105 |  105 |    2 |    2 |   15 |    2 |
|                           155.93.240.34 -    0 |  105 |  105 |    2 |    3 |   33 |    2 |
|                           155.93.240.25 -    0 |  106 |  106 |    0 |    0 |    1 |    0 |
|                              100.98.0.1 -    0 |  106 |  106 |    0 |    0 |    1 |    1 |
|                uxa-cust.coolideas.co.za -    0 |  106 |  106 |    1 |    1 |    1 |    1 |
|                   No response from host -  100 |    3 |    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 |
|                   No response from host -  100 |    3 |    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 |
|                   No response from host -  100 |    3 |    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 |
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|                   No response from host -  100 |    3 |    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 |
|________________________________________________|______|______|______|______|______|______|
   WinMTR v0.92 GPL V2 by Appnor MSP - Fully Managed Hosting & Cloud Provider
Currently also connecting to his stream from Sao Paulo, but no buffering whatsoever.

I'm in KZN on Openserve, if that makes any difference.
 

CrypticZA

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I opened that stream now (have no idea who they are xD) and streaming perfect 1080P - shows some skipped frames but did not buffer once

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jannier

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Happening right now on fuzzface49 's stream. He is in Sweden.

Currently pulling the stream from 52.223.209.58

Trace isn't very helpful unfortunately


Code:
|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
|                                      WinMTR statistics                                   |
|                       Host              -   %  | Sent | Recv | Best | Avrg | Wrst | Last |
|------------------------------------------------|------|------|------|------|------|------|
|                            172.18.7.225 -    0 |  106 |  106 |    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 |
|                            155.93.231.1 -    0 |  105 |  105 |    2 |    2 |   15 |    2 |
|                           155.93.240.34 -    0 |  105 |  105 |    2 |    3 |   33 |    2 |
|                           155.93.240.25 -    0 |  106 |  106 |    0 |    0 |    1 |    0 |
|                              100.98.0.1 -    0 |  106 |  106 |    0 |    0 |    1 |    1 |
|                uxa-cust.coolideas.co.za -    0 |  106 |  106 |    1 |    1 |    1 |    1 |
|                   No response from host -  100 |    3 |    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 |
|                   No response from host -  100 |    3 |    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 |
|                   No response from host -  100 |    3 |    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 |
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|                   No response from host -  100 |    3 |    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 |
|________________________________________________|______|______|______|______|______|______|
   WinMTR v0.92 GPL V2 by Appnor MSP - Fully Managed Hosting & Cloud Provider

Watching that stream now, no issues, Vuma trenched, CPT Brackenfell, 1000/100

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Which router are you using? What does a local test look like?

@PBCool

I use https://mikrotik.com/product/RB750Gr3

This is last night.

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This is now.

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This is 26/11, I don't know what have changed since then, HE vs Cogentco? Scrubbers?

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DJZassie

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Seems very localized to me and/or my IP range :/ Extremely weird.
Tried it on a fresh install of Windows, same issue, so not a windows settings issue.

Backup up my router settings and reset it back to factory default, still the same issue, so not my router settings.

Again, anything EU is running smooth as butter, i can single thread to my server in the netherlands at 100 mbps without any issues what so ever. Only things in Sao Paulo. :/

@PBCool What ever happened to Peering with Twitch in London? Did that fall away? Because i would imagine that would be the preferred path?
 

PBCool

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Seems very localized to me and/or my IP range :/ Extremely weird.
Tried it on a fresh install of Windows, same issue, so not a windows settings issue.

Backup up my router settings and reset it back to factory default, still the same issue, so not my router settings.

Again, anything EU is running smooth as butter, i can single thread to my server in the netherlands at 100 mbps without any issues what so ever. Only things in Sao Paulo. :/

@PBCool What ever happened to Peering with Twitch in London? Did that fall away? Because i would imagine that would be the preferred path?
Peering is still up to twitch in London. How can you tell it's using Sao Paulo?
 

jannier

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Seems very localized to me and/or my IP range :/ Extremely weird.
Tried it on a fresh install of Windows, same issue, so not a windows settings issue.

Backup up my router settings and reset it back to factory default, still the same issue, so not my router settings.

Again, anything EU is running smooth as butter, i can single thread to my server in the netherlands at 100 mbps without any issues what so ever. Only things in Sao Paulo. :/

@PBCool What ever happened to Peering with Twitch in London? Did that fall away? Because i would imagine that would be the preferred path?

I am playing back that stream now, so is not live but the recording and this is what network shows.

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I also have that SAO server in resource monitor but if I MTR live.twitch.tv it goes to london.

However I've not had any issues with twitch in a very long time. Hence my absence here :ROFL:

If it helps at all I'm in Cape Town with Octotel.
 

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Which router are you using? What does a local test look like?
@PBCool MikroTik hAp ac2 - https://mikrotik.com/product/hap_ac2

Something odd is happening, when I was testing about 30 minutes ago speeds were blazing fast (infact the fastest since upgrading to 1G), but tested again now and it's back to being slow.

CoreIX 30 minutes ago (12:30):
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CoreIX now (13:00):
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EDIT, CoreIX now (14:16): back to blazing fast!
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Local (Vodacom) now:
756932 756934

Handover:
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PBCool

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So what I suspect is that Twitch will feed dependant on load and might be session sticky IE will serve your IP from Sao Paulo. And if you have loss on your line without as using the accelerators will result in your buffering.
 
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