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[CrypticZA]

Off topic - any WARP users notice how garbage EU latencies have become on the service recently?

You Warp standard or premium? I got premium if you standard pop me IPs I'll check

 

[Soprono]

You Warp standard or premium? I got premium if you standard pop me IPs I'll check

What differences are you seeing vs non-warp? Curious as I was recently looking into the premium option. But couldn't see anything/findings for us local peeps.

 

[chrisGolf]

Any news on the outages? I don’t see updates on other ISPs? Assuming it’s a CISP related outage? Just a Vodacom outage Gauteng, on afrihost status page.

 

[Seeyou]

You Warp standard or premium? I got premium if you standard pop me IPs I'll check

Nah this is premium. Though to be honest I've traced quite a few routes with a free account and premium and there is zero difference.

Lately I haven't seen latency even to London below about 170-180ms.

 

[CrypticZA]

What differences are you seeing vs non-warp? Curious as I was recently looking into the premium option. But couldn't see anything/findings for us local peeps.

So i use the old wireguard method and it still gives me warp+ for free haha where a friend uses their app and at times we have seen routes be slightly different where my route had slightly better latency but it has been a rare sight. I almost always would go via WACS where sometimes she would go via a slightly longer route and hit London with 160ms

 

[CrypticZA]

Nah this is premium. Though to be honest I've traced quite a few routes with a free account and premium and there is zero difference.

Lately I haven't seen latency even to London below about 170-180ms.

What is the IP i'll just check on my side for interest sake?

 

[Seeyou]

What is the IP i'll just check on my side for interest sake?

I'm gonna have to jot down some server IPs when I play again. Pinging the London lobby server gives me 142ms. But in-game it has consistently been minimum 173ms going all the way up to 200ms of late. Actually cancelled my subscription from next month because it's been so poor.

 

[bHOLDher]

Something seems a bit broken to teams.microsoft.com? Sometimes showing the same IP in the trace:

|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
|                                      WinMTR statistics                                   |
|                       Host              -   %  | Sent | Recv | Best | Avrg | Wrst | Last |
|------------------------------------------------|------|------|------|------|------|------|
|                             192.168.3.2 -    0 |  298 |  298 |    0 |    0 |    1 |    0 |
|                             154.0.0.113 -    0 |  298 |  298 |    2 |    2 |    4 |    3 |
|                             154.0.4.194 -    0 |  298 |  298 |    2 |    2 |    4 |    3 |
|                      Request timed out. -  100 |   59 |    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 |
|                             154.0.4.194 -   81 |   71 |   14 |    0 |    2 |    3 |    2 |
|                      Request timed out. -  100 |   59 |    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 |
|                          196.223.14.173 -   38 |  119 |   74 |    2 |    5 |   23 |    3 |
|         ae21-0.icr01.jnb20.ntwk.msn.net -   77 |   73 |   17 |    3 |    6 |   21 |    7 |
|       be-100-0.ibr01.jnb20.ntwk.msn.net -   70 |   79 |   24 |    3 |    6 |   23 |    3 |
|                          196.223.14.173 -   87 |   67 |    9 |    0 |   18 |   23 |   23 |
|        ae100-0.icr01.cpt20.ntwk.msn.net -   51 |   99 |   49 |    0 |   20 |   60 |    3 |
|      ae27-0.cpt02-96cbe-1b.ntwk.msn.net -   28 |  141 |  102 |    4 |   23 |   48 |   22 |
|                          13.104.186.208 -   20 |  167 |  134 |    2 |   21 |   36 |    3 |
|      ae27-0.cpt02-96cbe-1b.ntwk.msn.net -   66 |   83 |   29 |    0 |   22 |   24 |   23 |
|                             154.0.4.194 -   71 |   78 |   23 |    0 |   15 |   32 |    3 |
|                          13.104.186.208 -   96 |   62 |    3 |    0 |   24 |   27 |   27 |
|                          52.113.194.132 -   36 |  123 |   79 |    0 |   20 |   33 |    3 |
|________________________________________________|______|______|______|______|______|______|
   WinMTR v1.00 GPLv2 (original by Appnor MSP - Fully Managed Hosting & Cloud Provider)

 

[cavedog]

What differences are you seeing vs non-warp? Curious as I was recently looking into the premium option. But couldn't see anything/findings for us local peeps.

Nah this is premium. Though to be honest I've traced quite a few routes with a free account and premium and there is zero difference.

Lately I haven't seen latency even to London below about 170-180ms.

Well there is 1 big difference. Torrents. On Warp+ it's max speed where with free it's slow.

So i use the old wireguard method and it still gives me warp+ for free haha where a friend uses their app and at times we have seen routes be slightly different where my route had slightly better latency but it has been a rare sight. I almost always would go via WACS where sometimes she would go via a slightly longer route and hit London with 160ms

Yeah this works but there is also the difference between ipv4 and ipv6 routes.

 

[Seeyou]

What is the IP i'll just check on my side for interest sake?

Yeah, something weird's going on. Just played a game - my in-game ping was above 200ms. The trace resolves to this, with an expected ping. Not sure what to make of it:

|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
|                                      WinMTR statistics                                   |
|                       Host              -   %  | Sent | Recv | Best | Avrg | Wrst | Last |
|------------------------------------------------|------|------|------|------|------|------|
|                              172.16.0.1 -    0 |    2 |    2 |    1 |    1 |    1 |    1 |
|                            172.68.185.1 -    0 |    2 |    2 |    1 |    1 |    1 |    1 |
|                          197.157.64.174 -    0 |    2 |    2 |    1 |    1 |    1 |    1 |
|                   No response from host -    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 |
|                cr1-amx-et42.wolcomm.net -    0 |    2 |    2 |  141 |  141 |  141 |  141 |
|                           212.119.4.176 -    0 |    2 |    2 |  141 |  141 |  141 |  141 |
|    ae-12.r21.londen12.uk.bb.gin.ntt.net -    0 |    2 |    2 |  145 |  145 |  146 |  146 |
|    ae-16.r20.frnkge13.de.bb.gin.ntt.net -    0 |    2 |    2 |  154 |  154 |  155 |  154 |
|     ae-0.r21.frnkge13.de.bb.gin.ntt.net -    0 |    2 |    2 |  157 |  157 |  157 |  157 |
|     ae-8.r00.lxmblc01.lu.bb.gin.ntt.net -    0 |    2 |    2 |  158 |  158 |  159 |  158 |
|ae-9-2644.r00.lxmblc01.lu.ce.gin.ntt.net -    0 |    2 |    2 |  162 |  164 |  166 |  162 |
|                          188.42.168.223 -    0 |    2 |    2 |  162 |  164 |  166 |  162 |
|                           188.42.42.118 -    0 |    2 |    2 |  161 |  161 |  162 |  162 |
|________________________________________________|______|______|______|______|______|______|
   WinMTR v0.92 GPL V2 by Appnor MSP - Fully Managed Hosting & Cloud Provider

 

[breezy1337]

I'm getting 190ms to London servers, where it used to be 155ms. It's only been like this since this morning for me. What's going on?

Edit: I'm in Cape Town

 

[CrypticZA]

Well there is 1 big difference. Torrents. On Warp+ it's max speed where with free it's slow.



Yeah this works but there is also the difference between ipv4 and ipv6 routes.

We don't have access to IPV6

 

[cavedog]

We don't have access to IPV6

Cloudflare does it for you. They now do the 6to4 automatically on Warp if you use their app or if you use wireguard just add the v6 local address prefix. scratch that looks like it's a cloudflare public generated prefix in the config.

 

[Seeyou]

Yeah, something weird's going on. Just played a game - my in-game ping was above 200ms. The trace resolves to this, with an expected ping. Not sure what to make of it:

|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
|                                      WinMTR statistics                                   |
|                       Host              -   %  | Sent | Recv | Best | Avrg | Wrst | Last |
|------------------------------------------------|------|------|------|------|------|------|
|                              172.16.0.1 -    0 |    2 |    2 |    1 |    1 |    1 |    1 |
|                            172.68.185.1 -    0 |    2 |    2 |    1 |    1 |    1 |    1 |
|                          197.157.64.174 -    0 |    2 |    2 |    1 |    1 |    1 |    1 |
|                   No response from host -    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 |
|                cr1-amx-et42.wolcomm.net -    0 |    2 |    2 |  141 |  141 |  141 |  141 |
|                           212.119.4.176 -    0 |    2 |    2 |  141 |  141 |  141 |  141 |
|    ae-12.r21.londen12.uk.bb.gin.ntt.net -    0 |    2 |    2 |  145 |  145 |  146 |  146 |
|    ae-16.r20.frnkge13.de.bb.gin.ntt.net -    0 |    2 |    2 |  154 |  154 |  155 |  154 |
|     ae-0.r21.frnkge13.de.bb.gin.ntt.net -    0 |    2 |    2 |  157 |  157 |  157 |  157 |
|     ae-8.r00.lxmblc01.lu.bb.gin.ntt.net -    0 |    2 |    2 |  158 |  158 |  159 |  158 |
|ae-9-2644.r00.lxmblc01.lu.ce.gin.ntt.net -    0 |    2 |    2 |  162 |  164 |  166 |  162 |
|                          188.42.168.223 -    0 |    2 |    2 |  162 |  164 |  166 |  162 |
|                           188.42.42.118 -    0 |    2 |    2 |  161 |  161 |  162 |  162 |
|________________________________________________|______|______|______|______|______|______|
   WinMTR v0.92 GPL V2 by Appnor MSP - Fully Managed Hosting & Cloud Provider

I don't get the same behaviour through my London VPS. 140-150ms pings. Unless CF is prioritising by traffic type now.

 

[CrypticZA]

I don't get the same behaviour through my London VPS. 140-150ms pings. Unless CF is prioritising by traffic type now.

That IP address is in Luxemburg

Connection is going London -> Paris -> Luxemburg

LON - PAR - LUX

A lookup of the IP confirms the location



CISP gives me 158 and warp gives me 162ms which is accurate for that region i know since Dota 2 EU servers are in the location

EDIT* Warp just takes you via Amsterdam as well so thats where the extra latency comes from so not sure?

 

[Soprono]

Well there is 1 big difference. Torrents. On Warp+ it's max speed where with free it's slow.



Yeah this works but there is also the difference between ipv4 and ipv6 routes.

Yeah, I'm on NZB's already so that solves max speed ect. I was just curious overall about it and what differences the guys see that would make it worth it for them

Im very rarely on an international lobby besides for my sim racing but as you know, when you see something that sounds cool and gets traction you always wonder what the returns are even when we most likely dont need it

 

[KoolKop]

OK so Openserve finally released the line, CI took over. Now I have to wait 24-48 hours for the router. They said I can use another router in the meantime and gave me the ppoe stuff.

Since the ONT works as a router too, can I use that? And if so, how? Because I can't seem to access the thing. I've tried wireless, wired, made sure of no proxy. Made sure of ip 192.168.100.1, made static ip and used the above as gateway, even hard reset it etc, still can't connect to the thing...?

 

[Seeyou]

That IP address is in Luxemburg

Connection is going London -> Paris -> Luxemburg

LON - PAR - LUX

A lookup of the IP confirms the location

View attachment 1437563

CISP gives me 158 and warp gives me 162ms which is accurate for that region i know since Dota 2 EU servers are in the location

EDIT* Warp just takes you via Amsterdam as well so thats where the extra latency comes from so not sure?

Yeah, it looks like ping latency is far lower than in-game latency when using WARP for me. I thought it was perhaps the Apex hamster servers, but I don't get the same results on my own VPS+Wireguard solution, which is why I'm wondering if WARP has started prioritising traffic by type.

 

[Seeyou]

OK so Openserve finally released the line, CI took over. Now I have to wait 24-48 hours for the router. They said I can use another router in the meantime and gave me the ppoe stuff.

Since the ONT works as a router too, can I use that? And if so, how? Because I can't seem to access the thing. I've tried wireless, wired, made sure of no proxy. Made sure of ip 192.168.100.1, made static ip and used the above as gateway, even hard reset it etc, still can't connect to the thing...?

Connect your PC directly to the ONT via network cable. Reset all the changes you made above. Create a new PPPoE connection in Windows with the login details CISP gave you, using automatically assigned IP / DNS, then dial it.

 

[TheLostPacket]

OK so Openserve finally released the line, CI took over. Now I have to wait 24-48 hours for the router. They said I can use another router in the meantime and gave me the ppoe stuff.

Since the ONT works as a router too, can I use that? And if so, how? Because I can't seem to access the thing. I've tried wireless, wired, made sure of no proxy. Made sure of ip 192.168.100.1, made static ip and used the above as gateway, even hard reset it etc, still can't connect to the thing...?

No, you cant use the ONT as a router because it doesnt dial the pppoe connection. It purely acts as a fibre to copper conversion. You need a router to dial the pppoe, or you can use you laptop and have it dial the connection when plugged directly into the ONT