Cool Ideas Fibre ISP – Feedback Thread 6

CoolEscalator said:
HI there, are you able to share some of these destinations with me?
Would be happy to take a look.

@adam_g were still looking into auth.sixty60.co.za, I do see when I ping the V6 addess on our looking glass it resolves , however latency seems to be 312ms, so not so ideal (lg.cisp.co.za)

PING 2600:9000:20d9:7200:d:be1d:7140:93a1(2600:9000:20d9:7200:d:be1d:7140:93a1) 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 2600:9000:20d9:7200:d:be1d:7140:93a1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=53 time=312 ms
64 bytes from 2600:9000:20d9:7200:d:be1d:7140:93a1: icmp_seq=2 ttl=53 time=312 ms
64 bytes from 2600:9000:20d9:7200:d:be1d:7140:93a1: icmp_seq=3 ttl=53 time=312 ms
64 bytes from 2600:9000:20d9:7200:d:be1d:7140:93a1: icmp_seq=8 ttl=53 time=312 ms
64 bytes from 2600:9000:20d9:7200:d:be1d:7140:93a1: icmp_seq=9 ttl=53 time=312 ms
64 bytes from 2600:9000:20d9:7200:d:be1d:7140:93a1: icmp_seq=10 ttl=53 time=312 ms

--- 2600:9000:20d9:7200:d:be1d:7140:93a1 ping statistics ---
10 packets transmitted, 10 received, 0% packet loss, time 2808ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 311.817/311.852/311.873/0.019 ms, ipg/ewma 311.973/311.850 ms
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Yea just tried on your looking glass ping is 180ms but on the MTR now at home its resolving and low latency and the sixty60 app now loads in instantly :thumbsup:
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adam_g said:
Yea just tried on your looking glass ping is 180ms but on the MTR now at home its resolving and low latency and the sixty60 app now loads in instantly :thumbsup:
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Oh that's great news, I'm not aware of any changes made though, could have been from AWS's side then.
Please let me know if you need anything else
 
PBCool said:
Yeah I believe so, will check stats on it.

Looks like we've managed to qualify for a valve cache as well finally.
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Are you talking about a valve/steam cache? i know steam has a PoP here 2x 100G links at NAP by the looks of it.

Would a CISP cache just be more advantageous due to it being on-net and wont suffer with congestion or downtimes if steams SA PoP went down?
 
CoolEscalator said:
Oh that's great news, I'm not aware of any changes made though, could have been from AWS's side then.
Please let me know if you need anything else
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Seeing v6 takes preference i dont know if i can set the Tik to failover to v4 if v6 routes timeout/fail at least then I won't suffer with infinite loading, ill need to do some research.
 
Jason-ZA said:
@PBCool I am guessing the Microsoft cache you guys deployed is going to be quite busy tonight, looks like there are new windows updates, and general updates to microsoft products like Visual Studio, etc.

Every 2nd Tuesday of the month is "patch day" for Microsoft.
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PBCool said:
Yeah I believe so, will check stats on it.

Looks like we've managed to qualify for a valve cache as well finally.
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PBCool said:
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Traffic wise a bit over 2Gbps from the MS cache as it's rated in MBps
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Is the MS cache the one for Xbox PC app downloads too?

My experience today :

2.6Gb download of Forza Horizon 5 patch done in 10 minutes, avg speed 43.33Mbps on 500Mbps Openserve JHB.
35.3Gb download of Avowed done in 91 minutes, avg speed 65Mbps


If it was on Steam I'd be done in 11 minutes instead of 1 hour 41 minutes.
 
NR7 said:
Is the MS cache the one for Xbox PC app downloads too?
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It should be.

Supported content: (Found on Microsoft's site: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/deployment/do/mcc-isp-overview)
  • Windows updates: Windows feature and quality updates
  • Office Click-to-Run apps: Microsoft 365 Apps and updates
  • Client apps: Intune, store apps, and updates
  • Endpoint protection: Windows Defender definition updates
  • Xbox: Xbox Game Pass (PC only)


You can check on resource monitor on windows if its pulling from CISP's cache or not.


Check @cavedog post over here: https://mybroadband.co.za/forum/thr...-connect-cache-feedback.1308959/post-33634508
If you are on win 10 you might need to turn that one setting on.
 
Jason-ZA said:
It should be.

Supported content: (Found on Microsoft's site: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/deployment/do/mcc-isp-overview)
  • Windows updates: Windows feature and quality updates
  • Office Click-to-Run apps: Microsoft 365 Apps and updates
  • Client apps: Intune, store apps, and updates
  • Endpoint protection: Windows Defender definition updates
  • Xbox: Xbox Game Pass (PC only)


You can check on resource monitor on windows if its pulling from CISP's cache or not.


Check @cavedog post over here: https://mybroadband.co.za/forum/thr...-connect-cache-feedback.1308959/post-33634508
If you are on win 10 you might need to turn that one setting on.
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Thanks for this. Windows 11 so it shows fine.

Seems to be all over the place, tried 2 downloads and they were on CISP - 120Mbps on the one and 430Mbps on the other.
Third was liquidtelecom and 5Mbps with bursts to 130Mbps.
 
NR7 said:
Thanks for this. Windows 11 so it shows fine.

Seems to be all over the place, tried 2 downloads and they were on CISP - 120Mbps on the one and 430Mbps on the other.
Third was liquidtelecom and 5Mbps with bursts to 130Mbps.
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Yes unfortunately it's a bit all over the place. So, Microsoft uses 3 CDN providers in a round robin sort of way.

1. Fastly (only EU nodes used)
2. Akamai (directly from Akamai or the ISP Akamai cache)
3. Liquid Telecoms content distribution servers in JHB.

The Microsoft cache doesn't replace these. It simply throws it into the mix. The diagram and traffic flow are explained here. https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/deployment/do/mcc-isp-overview#how-connected-cache-works
 
adam_g said:
Seeing v6 takes preference i dont know if i can set the Tik to failover to v4 if v6 routes timeout/fail at least then I won't suffer with infinite loading, ill need to do some research.
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When I was last digging into this, I could not quite figure out a way to resolve it with a firewall rule, but one thing that worked well for me was: I am running Pi-hole for DNS and it has a feature to block IPv6/AAAA queries for a given domain. So if the device can't get an answer for a "AAAA" query it has to use IPv4 with the "A" query result. I never checked whether the tik can filter DNS results. It seems like a lot of phones and some browsers decide when IPv6 is available they don't feel like failing over to IPv4.
 
NR7 said:
Is the MS cache the one for Xbox PC app downloads too?

My experience today :

2.6Gb download of Forza Horizon 5 patch done in 10 minutes, avg speed 43.33Mbps on 500Mbps Openserve JHB.
35.3Gb download of Avowed done in 91 minutes, avg speed 65Mbps


If it was on Steam I'd be done in 11 minutes instead of 1 hour 41 minutes.
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Correct it should be, are you setup to use our DNS servers? It also doesn't fill itself, so first download would be as slow as from source. The following would be from cache.
 
adam_g said:
Are you talking about a valve/steam cache? i know steam has a PoP here 2x 100G links at NAP by the looks of it.

Would a CISP cache just be more advantageous due to it being on-net and wont suffer with congestion or downtimes if steams SA PoP went down?
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Yeap, issue we had recently was that our content for everyone was being served from the caches at NAP KZN.

An on-net cache gives us as an ISP more control and generally a better user experience.

Valve/Steam in this case get free power and hosting from us at the cost of the tin.
 
PBCool said:
Yeap, issue we had recently was that our content for everyone was being served from the caches at NAP KZN.

An on-net cache gives us as an ISP more control and generally a better user experience.

Valve/Steam in this case get free power and hosting from us at the cost of the tin.
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Yea now and then the steam download region if you go into settings > downloads would randomly switch from JHB to Cape Town & speeds sometimes would be slightly slower.
 
@CoolEscalator is it possible to use an existing login at different premises if the infrastructure (ONT) is installed?

My current premises is via CISP and ThinkSpeed but I am vacating that property today.

My new premises will be via Afrihost and ThinkSpeed but Afrihost has not sent the router yet. My landlord is organising this so I am not 100% sure of what's been done yet.

Would my CISP issued router and login details work at the new premises for the remainder of the month (as I gave cancellation notice which will be effective 28 February)?
 
RogueTr00per said:
@CoolEscalator is it possible to use an existing login at different premises if the infrastructure (ONT) is installed?

My current premises is via CISP and ThinkSpeed but I am vacating that property today.

My new premises will be via Afrihost and ThinkSpeed but Afrihost has not sent the router yet. My landlord is organising this so I am not 100% sure of what's been done yet.

Would my CISP issued router and login details work at the new premises for the remainder of the month (as I gave cancellation notice which will be effective 28 February)?
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Hi there, if you are going to use CISP PPPoE details on the Afrihost network, then it won't work unfortunately.
I believe afrihost uses dynamic IP though, so you would able to get a dynamic address if you change the connection type on the router, and if the Link is active.

Please do reach out to @Afrigirl or @AfriNatic for details on the link status at the new premise.
 
RogueTr00per said:
@CoolEscalator is it possible to use an existing login at different premises if the infrastructure (ONT) is installed?

My current premises is via CISP and ThinkSpeed but I am vacating that property today.

My new premises will be via Afrihost and ThinkSpeed but Afrihost has not sent the router yet. My landlord is organising this so I am not 100% sure of what's been done yet.

Would my CISP issued router and login details work at the new premises for the remainder of the month (as I gave cancellation notice which will be effective 28 February)?
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The big question is, why are you leaving us?
 
RogueTr00per said:
Not by choice :) I sold my place and am going to be renting for a few months but the landlord is providing the fibre setup as part of the rental agreement.
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Then the landlord should have your account details? We can lean on Afrinatic if we have to.
 
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