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[MENTION=394133]PBCool[/MENTION]
Latency to and from Level-7 is averaging around 163ms.
But testing from Ignite servers its around 22ms.
Is this due to the issue i PM'd you about where they are manually preferring routes instead of letting BGP do its job.

here is Ignite ==> level-7==>Ignite
Code:
Ignite ==> Level-7 
                        My traceroute  [v0.83]
cpt1 (0.0.0.0)                                Sat Aug  4 12:43:26 2018
Keys:  Help   Display mode   Restart statistics   Order of fields   qui
t                             Packets               Pings
 Host                       Loss%   Snt   Last   Avg  Best  Wrst StDev
 1. 197-85-xxx.xxx.xxx       0.0%     5    1.7   1.8   1.7   2.2   0.0
 2. cpt-sw-h2.mweb.co.za     0.0%     5    1.8   1.8   1.8   1.8   0.0
 3. 197-84-120-77.cpt.mweb.  0.0%     5    2.6   2.9   2.5   4.1   0.5
 4. te0-0-0-3.cpt-pe-1.opti  0.0%     5   21.8  21.8  21.7  21.9   0.0
 5. te0-7-0-3.cpt-p-2.optin  0.0%     5   25.5  25.9  24.6  27.7   0.9
 6. gi0-20.trv-pe-2.optinet  0.0%     5   23.8  23.8  22.3  24.7   0.7
 7. 197-80-7-15.jhb.mweb.co  0.0%     5   20.2  20.3  20.2  20.3   0.0
 8. bu-ether1.tis-pe-2.opti  0.0%     5   20.3  20.3  20.2  20.5   0.0
 9. bu-ether2.tis-pe-1.opti  0.0%     5   21.8  21.9  21.8  22.0   0.0
10. 197-80-4-195.jhb.mweb.c  0.0%     4   25.6  22.9  20.6  25.6   2.1
11. level7.ixp.joburg        0.0%     4   19.9  20.0  19.9  20.3   0.0
12. te1-vpre-ch-1-bgp1.leve  0.0%     4   21.9  22.0  21.5  22.6   0.0
13. te1-mn.level-7.co.za     0.0%     4   23.8  24.0  23.1  25.7   1.2
14. mn-tag.level-7.co.za     0.0%     4   22.6  22.7  21.9  23.2   0.0
15. 196.201.xxx.xxx          0.0%     4   22.9  22.7  22.0  22.9   0.0

 

Level-7 ==> Ignite 

                             My traceroute  [v0.83]
netk (0.0.0.0)                                    Sat Aug  4 12:24:45 2018
Keys:  Help   Display mode   Restart statistics   Order of fields   quit
                                       Packets               Pings
 Host                                Loss%   Snt   Last   Avg  Best  Wrst StDev
 1. 196.201.xxx.xxx                   0.0%     6    0.2   0.2   0.2   0.3   0.0
 2. tag-mn.level-7.co.za              0.0%     5    0.7   0.8   0.7   0.8   0.0
 3. mn-te1.level-7.co.za              0.0%     5    2.2   2.2   2.1   2.2   0.0
 4. bgp1-vpre-ch-1-te1.level-7.co.za  0.0%     5    3.1   3.1   3.0   3.4   0.0
 5. mweb.ixp.joburg                   0.0%     5    3.8   4.5   3.8   5.3   0.0
 6. te0-0-0-3.vic-p-1.optinet.net     0.0%     5   25.7  25.3  24.6  26.4   0.5
 7. 197-84-4-16.cpt.mweb.co.za        0.0%     5   23.6  24.8  23.6  27.3   1.3
 8. 101.te0-0-2-0.cpt-tr-1.optinet.n  0.0%     5   22.4  22.1  21.3  23.1   0.5
 9. 197-84-120-66.cpt.mweb.co.za      0.0%     5   23.3  24.0  21.9  28.4   2.4
10. 196.41.144.85                     0.0%     5   23.4  23.1  21.8  24.7   1.0
11. 197.85.xxx.xxx                    0.0%     5   22.8  23.0  22.4  24.3   0.5

and here is CISP ==>level-7==CISP

Code:
Cool Ideas ==> Level-7
                             My traceroute  [v0.83]
rock (0.0.0.0)                                        Sat Aug  4 12:27:34 2018
Keys:  Help   Display mode   Restart statistics   Order of fields   quit
                                       Packets               Pings
 Host                                Loss%   Snt   Last   Avg  Best  Wrst StDev
 1. 155.93.250.1                      0.0%     7    3.7   3.2   2.6   4.0   0.0
 2. c6t-backbone.coolideas.co.za      0.0%     7   25.3  25.0  24.6  25.3   0.0
 3. 154.0.3.86                        0.0%     7   24.9  24.7  24.4  25.2   0.0
 4. level7.ixp.joburg                 0.0%     6  165.0 164.1 163.5 165.0   0.0
 5. te1-vpre-ch-1-bgp1.level-7.co.za  0.0%     6  164.4 168.7 163.8 187.0   9.0
 6. te1-mn.level-7.co.za              0.0%     6  166.0 166.5 165.5 168.0   0.8
 7. mn-tag.level-7.co.za              0.0%     6  170.6 168.1 165.6 170.6   1.9
 8. 196.201.xxx.xxx                   0.0%     6  167.1 167.5 166.9 168.1   0.0

Level-7 ==> Cool Ideas
                             My traceroute  [v0.83]
netk (0.0.0.0)                                    Sat Aug  4 12:26:22 2018
Keys:  Help   Display mode   Restart statistics   Order of fields   quit
                                       Packets               Pings
 Host                                Loss%   Snt   Last   Avg  Best  Wrst StDev
 1. 196.201.xxx.xxx                   0.0%    10    0.2   0.2   0.2   0.4   0.0
 2. tag-mn.level-7.co.za              0.0%    10    0.7   0.8   0.7   0.8   0.0
 3. mn-te1.level-7.co.za              0.0%    10    2.0   2.1   2.0   2.2   0.0
 4. bgp1-vpre-ch-1-te1.level-7.co.za  0.0%    10    2.7   3.1   2.6   3.6   0.0
 5. he.ixp.joburg                     0.0%    10    2.6   3.2   2.6   3.9   0.0
 6. 10ge3-11.core1.lon2.he.net        0.0%    10  195.0 191.5 170.9 211.4  13.7
 7. 100ge4-1.core1.lon3.he.net        0.0%    10  163.0 163.9 163.0 165.0   0.5
 8. 195.66.227.27                     0.0%    10  162.7 162.7 161.7 163.5   0.4
 9. c1q-backbone.coolideas.co.za      0.0%     9  163.0 162.5 161.8 163.7   0.5
10. 155.93.250.xxx                    0.0%     9  165.7 166.4 164.5 167.9   1.0


(Octotel CT 200/200)
 

PBCool

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[MENTION=394133]PBCool[/MENTION]
Latency to and from Level-7 is averaging around 163ms.
But testing from Ignite servers its around 22ms.
Is this due to the issue i PM'd you about where they are manually preferring routes instead of letting BGP do its job.

here is Ignite ==> level-7==>Ignite
Code:
Ignite ==> Level-7 
                        My traceroute  [v0.83]
cpt1 (0.0.0.0)                                Sat Aug  4 12:43:26 2018
Keys:  Help   Display mode   Restart statistics   Order of fields   qui
t                             Packets               Pings
 Host                       Loss%   Snt   Last   Avg  Best  Wrst StDev
 1. 197-85-xxx.xxx.xxx       0.0%     5    1.7   1.8   1.7   2.2   0.0
 2. cpt-sw-h2.mweb.co.za     0.0%     5    1.8   1.8   1.8   1.8   0.0
 3. 197-84-120-77.cpt.mweb.  0.0%     5    2.6   2.9   2.5   4.1   0.5
 4. te0-0-0-3.cpt-pe-1.opti  0.0%     5   21.8  21.8  21.7  21.9   0.0
 5. te0-7-0-3.cpt-p-2.optin  0.0%     5   25.5  25.9  24.6  27.7   0.9
 6. gi0-20.trv-pe-2.optinet  0.0%     5   23.8  23.8  22.3  24.7   0.7
 7. 197-80-7-15.jhb.mweb.co  0.0%     5   20.2  20.3  20.2  20.3   0.0
 8. bu-ether1.tis-pe-2.opti  0.0%     5   20.3  20.3  20.2  20.5   0.0
 9. bu-ether2.tis-pe-1.opti  0.0%     5   21.8  21.9  21.8  22.0   0.0
10. 197-80-4-195.jhb.mweb.c  0.0%     4   25.6  22.9  20.6  25.6   2.1
11. level7.ixp.joburg        0.0%     4   19.9  20.0  19.9  20.3   0.0
12. te1-vpre-ch-1-bgp1.leve  0.0%     4   21.9  22.0  21.5  22.6   0.0
13. te1-mn.level-7.co.za     0.0%     4   23.8  24.0  23.1  25.7   1.2
14. mn-tag.level-7.co.za     0.0%     4   22.6  22.7  21.9  23.2   0.0
15. 196.201.xxx.xxx          0.0%     4   22.9  22.7  22.0  22.9   0.0

 

Level-7 ==> Ignite 

                             My traceroute  [v0.83]
netk (0.0.0.0)                                    Sat Aug  4 12:24:45 2018
Keys:  Help   Display mode   Restart statistics   Order of fields   quit
                                       Packets               Pings
 Host                                Loss%   Snt   Last   Avg  Best  Wrst StDev
 1. 196.201.xxx.xxx                   0.0%     6    0.2   0.2   0.2   0.3   0.0
 2. tag-mn.level-7.co.za              0.0%     5    0.7   0.8   0.7   0.8   0.0
 3. mn-te1.level-7.co.za              0.0%     5    2.2   2.2   2.1   2.2   0.0
 4. bgp1-vpre-ch-1-te1.level-7.co.za  0.0%     5    3.1   3.1   3.0   3.4   0.0
 5. mweb.ixp.joburg                   0.0%     5    3.8   4.5   3.8   5.3   0.0
 6. te0-0-0-3.vic-p-1.optinet.net     0.0%     5   25.7  25.3  24.6  26.4   0.5
 7. 197-84-4-16.cpt.mweb.co.za        0.0%     5   23.6  24.8  23.6  27.3   1.3
 8. 101.te0-0-2-0.cpt-tr-1.optinet.n  0.0%     5   22.4  22.1  21.3  23.1   0.5
 9. 197-84-120-66.cpt.mweb.co.za      0.0%     5   23.3  24.0  21.9  28.4   2.4
10. 196.41.144.85                     0.0%     5   23.4  23.1  21.8  24.7   1.0
11. 197.85.xxx.xxx                    0.0%     5   22.8  23.0  22.4  24.3   0.5

and here is CISP ==>level-7==CISP

Code:
Cool Ideas ==> Level-7
                             My traceroute  [v0.83]
rock (0.0.0.0)                                        Sat Aug  4 12:27:34 2018
Keys:  Help   Display mode   Restart statistics   Order of fields   quit
                                       Packets               Pings
 Host                                Loss%   Snt   Last   Avg  Best  Wrst StDev
 1. 155.93.250.1                      0.0%     7    3.7   3.2   2.6   4.0   0.0
 2. c6t-backbone.coolideas.co.za      0.0%     7   25.3  25.0  24.6  25.3   0.0
 3. 154.0.3.86                        0.0%     7   24.9  24.7  24.4  25.2   0.0
 4. level7.ixp.joburg                 0.0%     6  165.0 164.1 163.5 165.0   0.0
 5. te1-vpre-ch-1-bgp1.level-7.co.za  0.0%     6  164.4 168.7 163.8 187.0   9.0
 6. te1-mn.level-7.co.za              0.0%     6  166.0 166.5 165.5 168.0   0.8
 7. mn-tag.level-7.co.za              0.0%     6  170.6 168.1 165.6 170.6   1.9
 8. 196.201.xxx.xxx                   0.0%     6  167.1 167.5 166.9 168.1   0.0

Level-7 ==> Cool Ideas
                             My traceroute  [v0.83]
netk (0.0.0.0)                                    Sat Aug  4 12:26:22 2018
Keys:  Help   Display mode   Restart statistics   Order of fields   quit
                                       Packets               Pings
 Host                                Loss%   Snt   Last   Avg  Best  Wrst StDev
 1. 196.201.xxx.xxx                   0.0%    10    0.2   0.2   0.2   0.4   0.0
 2. tag-mn.level-7.co.za              0.0%    10    0.7   0.8   0.7   0.8   0.0
 3. mn-te1.level-7.co.za              0.0%    10    2.0   2.1   2.0   2.2   0.0
 4. bgp1-vpre-ch-1-te1.level-7.co.za  0.0%    10    2.7   3.1   2.6   3.6   0.0
 5. he.ixp.joburg                     0.0%    10    2.6   3.2   2.6   3.9   0.0
 6. 10ge3-11.core1.lon2.he.net        0.0%    10  195.0 191.5 170.9 211.4  13.7
 7. 100ge4-1.core1.lon3.he.net        0.0%    10  163.0 163.9 163.0 165.0   0.5
 8. 195.66.227.27                     0.0%    10  162.7 162.7 161.7 163.5   0.4
 9. c1q-backbone.coolideas.co.za      0.0%     9  163.0 162.5 161.8 163.7   0.5
10. 155.93.250.xxx                    0.0%     9  165.7 166.4 164.5 167.9   1.0


(Octotel CT 200/200)
Yes this is level7 returning the traffic via international paths. They don't prefer routes learned via the route servers at the peering platforms.
 

Tinuva

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Yes this is level7 returning the traffic via international paths. They don't prefer routes learned via the route servers at the peering platforms.

Look again please! Level7 prefer HE.net at NapAfrica JHB, who routes through your international upstream. You need to contact Level7 to fine tune their route preference at NapAfrica to route direct to you instead of HE.net.

Code:
Level-7 ==> Cool Ideas
                             My traceroute  [v0.83]
netk (0.0.0.0)                                    Sat Aug  4 12:26:22 2018
Keys:  Help   Display mode   Restart statistics   Order of fields   quit
                                       Packets               Pings
 Host                                Loss%   Snt   Last   Avg  Best  Wrst StDev
 1. 196.201.xxx.xxx                   0.0%    10    0.2   0.2   0.2   0.4   0.0
 2. tag-mn.level-7.co.za              0.0%    10    0.7   0.8   0.7   0.8   0.0
 3. mn-te1.level-7.co.za              0.0%    10    2.0   2.1   2.0   2.2   0.0
 4. bgp1-vpre-ch-1-te1.level-7.co.za  0.0%    10    2.7   3.1   2.6   3.6   0.0
[b] 5. he.ixp.joburg                     0.0%    10    2.6   3.2   2.6   3.9   0.0[/b]
 6. 10ge3-11.core1.lon2.he.net        0.0%    10  195.0 191.5 170.9 211.4  13.7
 7. 100ge4-1.core1.lon3.he.net        0.0%    10  163.0 163.9 163.0 165.0   0.5
 8. 195.66.227.27                     0.0%    10  162.7 162.7 161.7 163.5   0.4
 9. c1q-backbone.coolideas.co.za      0.0%     9  163.0 162.5 161.8 163.7   0.5
10. 155.93.250.xxx                    0.0%     9  165.7 166.4 164.5 167.9   1.0
 

PBCool

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Look again please! Level7 prefer HE.net at NapAfrica JHB, who routes through your international upstream. You need to contact Level7 to fine tune their route preference at NapAfrica to route direct to you instead of HE.net.

Code:
Level-7 ==> Cool Ideas
                             My traceroute  [v0.83]
netk (0.0.0.0)                                    Sat Aug  4 12:26:22 2018
Keys:  Help   Display mode   Restart statistics   Order of fields   quit
                                       Packets               Pings
 Host                                Loss%   Snt   Last   Avg  Best  Wrst StDev
 1. 196.201.xxx.xxx                   0.0%    10    0.2   0.2   0.2   0.4   0.0
 2. tag-mn.level-7.co.za              0.0%    10    0.7   0.8   0.7   0.8   0.0
 3. mn-te1.level-7.co.za              0.0%    10    2.0   2.1   2.0   2.2   0.0
 4. bgp1-vpre-ch-1-te1.level-7.co.za  0.0%    10    2.7   3.1   2.6   3.6   0.0
[b] 5. he.ixp.joburg                     0.0%    10    2.6   3.2   2.6   3.9   0.0[/b]
 6. 10ge3-11.core1.lon2.he.net        0.0%    10  195.0 191.5 170.9 211.4  13.7
 7. 100ge4-1.core1.lon3.he.net        0.0%    10  163.0 163.9 163.0 165.0   0.5
 8. 195.66.227.27                     0.0%    10  162.7 162.7 161.7 163.5   0.4
 9. c1q-backbone.coolideas.co.za      0.0%     9  163.0 162.5 161.8 163.7   0.5
10. 155.93.250.xxx                    0.0%     9  165.7 166.4 164.5 167.9   1.0
Yes so HE give a peering guideline on bilaterals which states to set a pref value. And if you follow it blindly this is what happens.
 

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Link down at Tuscany Village, Rustenburg since 9am. Other residents offline. I've submitted a ticket to CI earlier, they said they'll log with SADV, but no communication after that till now.
 

Mr Scratch

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Have you had any recent downtime of a few minutes here and there every other day? Most wouldn't detect but my monitoring system does and I wonder if this is something that affects more than just me...
 

PBCool

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Link down at Tuscany Village, Rustenburg since 9am. Other residents offline. I've submitted a ticket to CI earlier, they said they'll log with SADV, but no communication after that till now.
If it's a backhaul issue or line fault they will be investigating it. Rustenburg backhauls to Cape Town on SADVs network so a long run
 

PBCool

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Have you had any recent downtime of a few minutes here and there every other day? Most wouldn't detect but my monitoring system does and I wonder if this is something that affects more than just me...
Do you have any examples for me?
 

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Have you had any recent downtime of a few minutes here and there every other day? Most wouldn't detect but my monitoring system does and I wonder if this is something that affects more than just me...
Yes.
 

Mr Scratch

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Do you have any examples for me?

I'll PM you times this happens... If there is something specific I can deploy to better help I can do that too. I also have a SmokePing monitor to various places running...
 

PBCool

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I'll PM you times this happens... If there is something specific I can deploy to better help I can do that too. I also have a SmokePing monitor to various places running...
Please pm me the results, we run the same but obviously not to every customer.
 

Phinix

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The fibre map finally updated to show our area is live. Who know why it updated at such a random time.
Will send through my application in the morning! Excited!
 

Sinbad

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Please pm me the results, we run the same but obviously not to every customer.
To www.google.co.za
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Sinbad

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No. I will add those.
Also, I'll see if the unifi stuff can log ups /downs for me. Might be more useful than just a graph
 
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