Cope: We have 428 000 members

[BBSA]

The Congress of the People has 428 000 paid-up members and that could swell to half a million by its inaugural conference at the weekend, Cope general secretary Charlotte Lobe said on Tuesday.

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Not bad if it is true.

 

[thriel]

i thought it was more

 

[Sneeky]

not bad for a bunch of cockroaches
Maybe Jesus is on his way.

 

[Surv0]

im tempted to give Cope my vote, just to help against the ANC..

 

[killadoob]

They got my vote without doubt.

No point in the white's and coloureds etc who vote DA the whole time voting for them because we just splitting the vote.

The DA and the rest must not get a single vote and all those people voting for other parties, other than the anc need to vote in COPE.

I think i would actually even like a rally or some kuk to get the vote's for cope instead of DA,ifp etc

 

[sox63]

The Congress of the People has 428 000 paid-up members and that could swell to half a million by its inaugural conference at the weekend, Cope general secretary Charlotte Lobe said on Tuesday.

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Not bad if it is true.

Which would mean they have raised just under R13 Million of just membership fees of R30 a pop. And I'm sure people made donations as well.

Not bad at all.

 

[daveza]

My COPE vote is in limbo while I consider the presence of Pieter Marais.

 

[killadoob]

Dude we don't have a choice, vote cope or don't bother voting as nobody else even has a sniff .

 

[EtienneK]

I'll vote DA, because I believe in their policies. Even if they only get 10% again, it might be enough to bargain and form a coalition.

 

[dlk001]

Not bad at all. ANC membership stood at 621,237 from 2694 branches as of 30 June 2007 audit.

 

[killadoob]

I'll vote DA, because I believe in their policies. Even if they only get 10% again, it might be enough to bargain and form a coalition.

What if the ANC win by 8% those 10% that went to the DA could have won the election for COPE. I guess having ZUMA as president is better than voting for COPE for most people.

 

[EtienneK]

What if the ANC win by 8% those 10% that went to the DA could have won the election for COPE. I guess having ZUMA as president is better than voting for COPE for most people.

Then the DA will be in a VERY good bargaining position! Actually I am hoping for a situation like this.

 

[killadoob]

Bargaining chip with Zuma in power, hahaha kinda like MDC "have" a bargaining chip with Mugabe.

See if those zim people did not vote for that 3rd oke then mdc would have been clear winners

 

[2CentsWorth]

What if the ANC win by 8% those 10% that went to the DA could have won the election for COPE. I guess having ZUMA as president is better than voting for COPE for most people.

You seem to misunderstand our political system. We vote for representation by political parties. So, if the ANC takes say 50%, the DA 20%, COPE 20%, each of those percentages translates into a representative number of seats in parliament. This is why the ANC always pushes for 2/4rds majority - that way they guarantee their's is the only vote that counts in parliament.

Using your example, if The DA and COPE were runners up, they can form a coalition to have more say in all the various structures. So it doesn't matter how many people vote for a particular party - it's how many people who vote for the non-dominant party that really matters.

 

[Amida]

You seem to misunderstand our political system. We vote for representation by political parties. So, if the ANC takes say 50%, the DA 20%, COPE 20%, each of those percentages translates into a representative number of seats in parliament. This is why the ANC always pushes for 2/4rds majority - that way they guarantee their's is the only vote that counts in parliament.

Using your example, if The DA and COPE were runners up, they can form a coalition to have more say in all the various structures. So it doesn't matter how many people vote for a particular party - it's how many people who vote for the non-dominant party that really matters.

agreed

 

[killadoob]

Yes what if COPE won though? Makes no sense to me that you guys would rather ANC win than COPE, surely having ZUMA as president would be far worse than COPE? Maybe i don't know the exact working as its my first time doing this but i would surely not want ZUMA in charge of anything.

So what you are saying if anc win by 40 cop get 30 and DA get 30 that Zuma could not install land grabs and that sort of thing?

 

[Sneeky]

I am of the opinion at this point in time that there will be more than enough people that used to vote for the ANC, now voting for COPE.
No need for the smaller parties to loose their support although I am sure there will be some impact fealt.

There was a study released just recently by Markinor that says that in 2004 in the WC the anc had over around 40% and the DA 20%, that has now reversed completely.
It was done before the advent of COPE but still a sign of the times that people are gatvol of this ruling party shambles.

 

[threegee]

While I think a split in the ANC is a damn good thing, it still seems no matter what we do we always conjure ways of splitting the opposition vote instead of standing together. If all opposition voters voted for "one" opposition party they would make sure that a 2/3 majority is not ever held by any one party. Coalitions are no guarantee.

The kind of "self serving" legislation that has been ushered through parliament in the last 4 years regardless of opposition is frightening. Another 4 years of this and just about every law we know will be altered and will keep the ruling party in power for ever. Next year is MAKE OR BREAK !!!!

Make it count.

 

[killadoob]

Make or break for sure and if the ANC win it will be break but until the world cup is over.

 

[Sneeky]

The damage to the ANC will be far bigger than any damage to an opposition party, at least the major opposition that is, and any weakness in the opposition as a result will be outweighed by the birth of a new and formidadble party.

The ANC looses hand over fist if this keeps on the way it is at the moment, and the people win handsomely.

The ANC will most certainly still win the elections, but they will have their wings clipped quite a bit in the process.