Copper theft should be treated as sabotage: Minister

rebel998

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Agreed.

The effects of this is more than that of just theft.

Shoot them.
 

LaraC

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Water minister dafaq...
The Minister responded due to the theft of cables which led to pump stations shutting down, causing water shortages in Gauteng.
It would be great if the other Ministries also condemn the thefts.
 

adam_g

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Why don't they just bring in a Copper Minister so the Water one can just relax.
 

biometrics

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This has been stated several times over the years by ministers. Nothing going to happen.
 

Paul Hjul

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the problem here though is that they play in this narrative of "economic crime" and so on. Copper theft should not be treated differently to vehicular theft because Telkom or Eskom or whoever asks for it to be treated differently;

copper theft should be treated as sabotage if the acquisition is done with the intent to cause harm to infrastructure or reckless disregard for that harm
copper theft should be viewed as an organized syndicate crime if the syndicates are running the show
etc ...

the reality is that sabotage is a political game that has persisted in this country and the prosecution of copper thieves and acquirers of stolen copper is selectively handled for political reasons

the municipal councilors implicit in sabotaging fibre need to find themselves facing 25 year imprisonment before things start improving
 

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Trouble may be that the very people laying the cable are lifting it to.
 

Wasabee!

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We need Bheki Cele, with his "shoot to kill" policy for copper theft.

Oh and that catchy parody on YouTube - stomach in, chest out lol. What is he now, taxi driver?
 

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There could and should be more control on the sale and purchasing of scrap metal. Make it harder to buy and sell, and make the sales easily traceable. Right now the thieves just melt it down and sell it for cash. Make the sales go through bank accounts, to slow down the instant gratification and make it easier to trace.
 

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Shoot them.
Yes.

This boils down to terrorism against the state/people. A few benefit from stealing the stuff while millions suffer. Shoot hem on sight and hang the mofo scrap dealers that buy the stuff.
 

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copper theft should be treated as sabotage if the acquisition is done with the intent to cause harm to infrastructure or reckless disregard for that harm
I agree to this approach. It doesn't need to prove intention, the end result for infrastructure is a key issue. There is no matter what they do with copper, the "reckless disregard for that harm" should be evaluated. If proven, it is a sabotage.
 
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ponder

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I agree to this approach. It doesn't need to prove intention, the end result for infrastructure is a key issue. There is no matter what they do with copper, the "reckless disregard for that harm" should be evaluated. If proven, it is a sabotage.
You don't even have to prove much as it's sabotage at the end of the day whether that was your intent or not. But we need to nail the bastards buying the copper.
 

sajunky

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You don't even have to prove much as it's sabotage at the end of the day whether that was your intent or not. But we need to nail the bastards buying the copper.
Do you want make buying copper a cime? This is what you propose.
 
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