-
Ask a question and get free supportUnlock new privileges and see hidden discussionsWin prizes and earn reputation
-
Question of the day ~ How often do you braai?
-
Afristay giveaway.Win a 2-night stay for two people at an establishment of your choice with R1,000 in spending money. Enter here.
Sign up with GoogleCosatu-it's time to hold govt accountable for economic mess
- Thread starter mojoman
- Start date
Nicodeamus
Honorary Master
- Joined
- Sep 20, 2006
- Messages
- 14,477
1995 when we decided to celebrate Rugby over science and mathematics.
Craig_
Honorary Master
- Joined
- Feb 22, 2016
- Messages
- 26,906
Because we became a democracy and his beloved apartheid was then a long forgotten dream.
konfab
Honorary Master
- Joined
- Jun 23, 2008
- Messages
- 36,120
The NP made a grave error in thinking that communism was dead in the ANC. They shouldn't have negotiated with the ANC. They could have simply written up a new constitution that grants individual rights to everyone, severely limits the power of the state, makes all intentional racial and sexual discrimination illegal, federalises the functions of the state, and severely limits the ability of the state to interfere with business and vice versa. Then go to elections under said new constitution.
Provided the ANC wouldn't murder people participating in said elections, they would win. If they didn't want to participate in the first non-racial election, they instantly loose international recognition and another party (or parties) becomes the legitimate voice of the people. Either way, we wouldn't have the shyteshow we have in South Africa where you have a corrupt teacher pretending to be the minister of police telling private citizens they cannot own weapons for self defence whilst he runs around the country with his own police escort.
When the white man ruled everything worked. Then 1994 came and everything stopped working.
Don't Ask stupid questions....
Gyre
Executive Member
- Joined
- Oct 16, 2011
- Messages
- 9,929
Mike Hoxbig
Honorary Master
- Joined
- Apr 25, 2010
- Messages
- 43,328
They would have just changed the constitution when they held a 2/3 majority to align with their values.
People get what they vote for. That's all there is to it. You can't vote vote a pile of schit and then cry about it stinking. That, and the electoral system fails to hold elected officials accountable by allow them to hide behind their party...
No, format c: /s /q does not work in Command prompt anymore.There is an /s right?
Exactly and reminds me of that old, old joke. Don't like the movie in a drive in theatre so you slash the seats. I suppose the modern equivalent would be that you don't like the movie on Netflix so you slash the seats.
konfab
Honorary Master
- Joined
- Jun 23, 2008
- Messages
- 36,120
I don't think they would ever be able to get a majority. Proportional representation systems pretty much always result in coalitions.
The ANC got their majority of black votes by murdering and intimidating all other black political orgs that were not aligned to them. This is well documented in the People's War. The tactic only worked once the NP started negotiations with the ANC. Had they just announced elections and left the negotiations till after the electoral result, the vote for the ANC would have been split over various other parties.
MikeaMatrix
Expert Member
- Joined
- Jul 7, 2020
- Messages
- 1,024
Unions and ANC.
TEXTILE GUY
Honorary Master
- Joined
- Oct 4, 2012
- Messages
- 16,294
Fokkem both -
Its an internal matter - put the striking workers and the ANC together in a paddock and let them sort it out.
Leave the rest out of it.
The Trutherizer
Executive Member
- Joined
- May 20, 2010
- Messages
- 8,261
They seem to be completely oblivious to the central role COSATO played in causing the problems facing our country's economy.
Maybe they need to study up on economics. Then the way they've related to it over the last 30 years or so.
Prime example: They brought Zuma to power. COSATU supported him all the way. Those years are now called "a lost decade". But it's more than that. Zuma's campaign of economic destruction started almost a decade before he even became president. And COSATU helped him all the way. Our country was rocketing ahead. With the admiration and assistance of the entire world right up to that point.
Another: How many factories, mines and businesses have fled the country thanks directly to COSATU's negative impact on the economy?
Truly when COSATU says "this" economy does not benefit workers. Then they are actually saying "their" economy does not benefit workers. They made this economy what it is.
Maybe they need to study up on economics. Then the way they've related to it over the last 30 years or so.
Prime example: They brought Zuma to power. COSATU supported him all the way. Those years are now called "a lost decade". But it's more than that. Zuma's campaign of economic destruction started almost a decade before he even became president. And COSATU helped him all the way. Our country was rocketing ahead. With the admiration and assistance of the entire world right up to that point.
Another: How many factories, mines and businesses have fled the country thanks directly to COSATU's negative impact on the economy?
Truly when COSATU says "this" economy does not benefit workers. Then they are actually saying "their" economy does not benefit workers. They made this economy what it is.
grok
Honorary Master
- Joined
- Dec 20, 2007
- Messages
- 28,673
This. ****it & ****em, they helped create the problem in the first place, crying over spilled milk comes way too late.
Howdy
Expert Member
- Joined
- Jul 26, 2021
- Messages
- 4,830
You are wrong, we never never needed any evidence, it was self evident.
For the others, there will never be enough.
wingnut771
Honorary Master
- Joined
- Feb 15, 2011
- Messages
- 28,146
The problem is, if you're stupid, you don't know you're stupid.
He he like being dead. Was it Ricky Gervais' joke?