Cosmonaut takes on Windows

Sneeky

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at least Mark is trying to do something and he does set high goals, so good luck.
 

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M$ is not the problem in this country ... so y bother with them .. after all .. they the ones that made him rich anyways :)
y doesn't he invest in telecomms and rather try and do something there .... M$ has plenty of competition already .. but telscums has none.
 

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lucifir said:
y doesn't he invest in telecomms and rather try and do something there .... M$ has plenty of competition already .. but telscums has none.
Probably cause he isnt a dumbass and wont throw his money into something that is being controlled to the nth degree by gauvamint to further their own political agenda's at the expense of the country as a whole.
Telkom is a gauvamint chess piece, if gauvamint want the prices to come down they will and not until then. Nothing Mark or anyone else can do about that, no matter how much money they have. Telkom rule the roost.
 

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Sneeky said:
Probably cause he isnt a dumbass and wont throw his money into something that is being controlled to the nth degree by gauvamint to further their own political agenda's at the expense of the country as a whole.
Telkom is a gauvamint chess piece, if gauvamint want the prices to come down they will and not until then. Nothing Mark or anyone else can do about that, no matter how much money they have. Telkom rule the roost.

Nuff said.
 

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"they the ones that made him rich anyways"????
How did Microsoft make him rich?
 

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I don't think he needs to prove anything, he does what he does for the good of all South Africans and computer users, so 'go for it'. Google please be creative, "Goobuntu!!?"
 
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I searched google for "goobuntu" and only got one result, some japanese blogging site i think.... wtf?
 

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lucifir said:
they the ones that made him rich anyways :)
How did Microsoft make Shuttleworth rich? His company developed a platform-agnostic secure website certificate system.
lucifir said:
y doesn't he invest in telecomms and rather try and do something there .... M$ has plenty of competition already .. but telscums has none.
In case you hadn't noticed, we don't really have a free market in the telecomms sector.

Shuttleworth is investing in Desktop Linux because he wants to try make a difference, believes he can, and is in a position to do. I'm not sure why this seems to make some people uncomfortable. How is it a bad thing? The ultimate (and maybe inevitable) commoditisation of the desktop OS is going to benefit everyone (including you) in more ways than you can imagine. Microsoft's high prices are also harmful to our economy, just like overpriced telecommunications. Despite your odd claims to the contrary, Microsoft still has no effective competition in this market, still charges monopoly pricing, and still exerts way too much control over the OEMs.
 

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hah...

the guys at microgaming make shuttleworth look like childs play.
 

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wonder why this news took so long Ubuntu has been a top downloaded distro for awhile now - anyone fighting the good fight gets my support :p
 

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But Ubuntu isn't ready yet ... all the problems regarding winmodems need to be sorted out - ie built ino the OS - before most people will consider using it. Not being able to connect to the internet (and get SAMBA to work ... it needs to be included as well) has been my biggest hurdly in trying to get linux working for me ....

But the guy can't do everything, and if he would prefer to make a free OS instead of partaking in Telecoms then let's let him, and support him ...
 

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kilps said:
all the problems regarding winmodems need to be sorted out

There you said it ... they are called WINDOWS modems for a reason and the chipset manufacturers could not be bothered with releasing documentation and specs for Linux developers to write drivers for them.

Now who is to blame for this situation ... certainly not the Linux folks but manufacturers who are beholden to Microsoft and don't care about their customers who happen to choose to run something else ???.

If they don't respect my choice then I don't buy their products ... there are lots of other manufacturers that have seen the light and have proper support for Linux.
 

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I say, go for it Mr Shuttleworth!;)
How are we to know that Linux will not become the future desktop operating system of choice?

At least Shuttleworth and many others are giving the world alternatives to Windows and surely that is a good thing.
In Comparison to Microsoft, Look what happens when one Company like Telkom has the Monopoly?

I am not familiar with the file system of Linux and this I find a bit off putting and one of the reasons why I have not made the change.
When I have time I will try to learn how to use Linux. My neighbour has made the change and he is very happy.
 
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rpm said:
and from the article
Shuttleworth says he is in talks with the city of Munich about creating an edition for them.
This is not correct and I quote Mark (SABDFL):
Yes - this is a misunderstanding with the author of the article, though
it's an understandable misunderstanding. I was describing the economic
model around desktop linux and saying that it seemed likely that Munich
would not deploy Red Hat, with its strong commercial-style licensing,
but would instead build its own using components similar to Ubuntu.
There's some chance that it could be an Ubuntu derivative that they end
up deploying, but we are not actually in discussions with Munich officials.
 

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I'm all for Shuttleworth's idea's! :D
I've been using Linux for some years now, I threw Windows where t belongs ages ago :p
I don't use Ubuntu though (I use Fedora Core), but I have tried it before, and it's really well put together ;)

How did Microsoft make Shuttleworth rich? His company developed a platform-agnostic secure website certificate system.
They actually did help him in a indirect way.. Thawte did a lot of digital certificates for MS
*before* Shuttleworth sold it... and after all Verisign would not have paid such an amount of money for a company that didn't have a good potential.

M$ has plenty of competition already
Oh yeah??
Name one.. and don't say "Apple/Mac" :rolleyes:

(and get SAMBA to work ... it needs to be included as well)
Whats wrong with SAMBA? It works perfectly ... I've been using it for years to share files between my Linux box and my Mom's Windows machine...
 
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