Could you help me understand Fibre sharing via wifi routers/networks?

[Yivo]

Hello!

I apologise in advance for my potato networking skills.

I am running a Huawei 315B LTE router at the moment, but the data cap is a killer, so I would like to see if I can share fibre with my neighbour. He has a wifi connection already running off his fibre connection which I can easily connect to on tablets and phones, but I have no idea how to find and connect to the wifi using my LTE router.

The router is hooked up to two desktop PCs by lan cables. Surely it is just a question of enabling wifi repeating? I have the login and password but have no idea what to do from here. I've run through my router info, created profiles with different SSIDs and passwords but I think I'm going nowhere.

Thanks in advance.

 

[EasyUp Web Hosting]

You need a wifi repearter and the B315 won't be able to do what you want to do, unless you connect a LAN cable to his router and disabling DHCP on your B315.

Is your neighbour aware of what you are trying to do?

 

[Yivo]

Thanks very much. Yes, my neighbour is aware and we are testing if we are able to share the fiber, hence all the checking before investing.

Would it be possible to use a standard ADSL router to function as the wifi repeater?

If push comes to shove, I assume connecting the LAN cable directly to my current router would be a matter of plug and play? I currently run a nice small network with my two pcs, cellphones and tablets and I would hate to lose that. Alternatively, could I install an ADSL router, then run a cable from that into the B315?

Thanks!

 

[SauRoNZA]

You need a device that can act as a Wifi CLIENT, which pretty much most Routers don't do with standard firmware.

So there is a chance you could do it with open sourced firmware but odds are your device won't support those so it's easier to just buy a new device.

If you were to use an Ethernet cable then yes it would be as simple as plug and play with some configuration changes. You need to have DHCP Server turned off and preferably a Static IP in the range of the neighbours network, but could get away with a DHCP Client IP too if it has that option.

Personally I would probably do an Access Point configured purely as a Wireless Client (not a repeater) so that you don't lose network bandwidth. Connect that to the neighbours network and make sure to have DHCP Server turned off.

Then connect your current router to the Access Point via cable on it's LAN (not WAN ports) and make sure it has an IP address in the range of the neighbours network but outside it's DHCP scope. Then make sure the DHCP server is turned off so that you don't conflict with your neighbours.

If you were to use the WAN port you are going to end up with a Router behind a Router Double-NAT situation.

 

[Nomadman]

Thanks very much. Yes, my neighbour is aware and we are testing if we are able to share the fiber, hence all the checking before investing.

Would it be possible to use a standard ADSL router to function as the wifi repeater?

If push comes to shove, I assume connecting the LAN cable directly to my current router would be a matter of plug and play? I currently run a nice small network with my two pcs, cellphones and tablets and I would hate to lose that. Alternatively, could I install an ADSL router, then run a cable from that into the B315?

Thanks!

Which ISP or Fibre operator is this?

 

[EasyUp Web Hosting]

Which ISP or Fibre operator is this?

Doesn't matter.

 

[Nomadman]

Doesn't matter.

it does when you read your FUP

 

[Mike Hoxbig]

An obvious question first - do you have your neighbour's consent?

 

[Nomadman]

An obvious question first - do you have your neighbour's consent?

read the thread that question was answered already

 

[Mike Hoxbig]

read the thread that question was answered already

Cool.

https://www.incredible.co.za/netgear-wn2000rpt

Has a WiFi client and server, which should do the trick. And 4 LAN ports if you need to minimise latency.

I have one of these setup at my folks place and it works fine.

Your neighbour may need to do some bandwidth management on his side though...

 

[Yivo]

Hi,

Thanks for being careful. Yes, I do have my neighbour's permission. I am renting from them so sharing fiber would help us both for cost.

 

[Yivo]

Thanks for the awesome detail. I think I understand what's required.

I'll definitely try get an access point and connect into it from my current router. I'm just a little confused about the LAN input. I see four LAN inputs, a USB and a telephone cable insert. Right now my two desktops are running into it via the LAN inputs. Do you mean to say I should also plug my access point in the same way?

 

[Yivo]

I'm not sure but I assume it would be Telkom or Mweb. I think Sauronza spelled it out for me pretty well. I'm just a little confused about connecting an access point to my router via a LAN (if my two desktops are running into it via LAN already).

 

[isie]

Hi,

Thanks for being careful. Yes, I do have my neighbour's permission. I am renting from them so sharing fiber would help us both for cost.

Why not run a lan cable from his place to yours and then use a switch or wireless AP -I find extenders and sharing via Wifi just slows the network down
if you renting from him i assume the property is connected on the same DB board? maybe consider a Powerline extender?
they not expensive and the one i have has wifi on the receiver so you get 2 lan ports and can have your own wifi SSID (or the same ssid as his) all off the same network?
Not expensive goes for just over a grand

 

[Mike Hoxbig]

I'm not sure but I assume it would be Telkom or Mweb. I think Sauronza spelled it out for me pretty well. I'm just a little confused about connecting an access point to my router via a LAN (if my two desktops are running into it via LAN already).

Forget about your router, you won't need it anymore.

This access point will connect to his access point wirelessly. It will then effectively replace your router...

 

[ponder]

Thanks for the awesome detail. I think I understand what's required.

I'll definitely try get an access point and connect into it from my current router. I'm just a little confused about the LAN input. I see four LAN inputs, a USB and a telephone cable insert. Right now my two desktops are running into it via the LAN inputs. Do you mean to say I should also plug my access point in the same way?

I think port 4 doubles as an ethernet wan port, got to switch it in the web interface.

 

[Yivo]

Thanks a lot, this looks really good. Is there any difference between something like this and an access point? I've also seen another example someone posted - http://www.tp-link.co.za/products/details/cat-18_TL-WPA4220KIT.html.

Would these both essentially be plugged in at a wall socket somewhere, receive the wifi signal from the neighbour's router, then all my devices plug into the repeater?

 

[Yivo]

Why not run a lan cable from his place to yours and then use a switch or wireless AP -I find extenders and sharing via Wifi just slows the network down
if you renting from him i assume the property is connected on the same DB board? maybe consider a Powerline extender?
they not expensive and the one i have has wifi on the receiver so you get 2 lan ports and can have your own wifi SSID (or the same ssid as his) all off the same network?
Not expensive goes for just over a grand

Hi, thanks for the nice suggestion. Although we're on the same property, our electricity has been separated so each party has their own circuit breakers. I assume this means we do not share electricity? Does a repeater like this literally plug into the wall and then receive wifi signal which I plug into? Gosh that seems too easy!

 

[isie]

Hi, thanks for the nice suggestion. Although we're on the same property, our electricity has been separated so each party has their own circuit breakers. I assume this means we do not share electricity? Does a repeater like this literally plug into the wall and then receive wifi signal which I plug into? Gosh that seems too easy!

basically it uses your homes wiring like a Lan cable, to send the signal the receiver you can then plug a pc or anything in , on this model the receiver has a wireless transmitter as well and yes it is that easy - just depends on your set up.
I recall some people in a similar set up to you guys, mentioned even though they had separate DB boards it still worked as from the municipality its on one phase.
You could buy it and try - if you don't need wifi or have an access point to connect to it there are cheaper models that don't have wifi (gor for under R500)

You can maybe buy it from loot or takealot and if it doesn't work send it back

 

[Yivo]

basically it uses your homes wiring like a Lan cable, to send the signal the receiver you can then plug a pc or anything in , on this model the receiver has a wireless transmitter as well and yes it is that easy - just depends on your set up.
I recall some people in a similar set up to you guys, mentioned even though they had separate DB boards it still worked as from the municipality its on one phase.
You could buy it and try - if you don't need wifi or have an access point to connect to it there are cheaper models that don't have wifi (gor for under R500)

You can maybe buy it from loot or takealot and if it doesn't work send it back

Now I see why you are a Super Grandmaster here. ;P

Thanks for the info. I'll definitely consider using this. I'm sure (if it works) the connection would be more stable and faster.

I'm already shopping around and really appreciate the awesome help!