Covid-19 vaccine might be made mandatory before returning to the office

pinball wizard

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You know what's fun? That the WHO is the one that posted the 51%:

It's actually linked in that quote. Stop posting in threads like this if you can't handle comprehension.
Nowhere in there does it say that there is an efficacy threshold which a vaccine must meet to be called a vaccine, which was your original contention.

We can play this game all day. Moron. or do you prefer idiot?

For reference, the only time 51% is mentioned in your own link:

Vaccine efficacy results showed that the vaccine prevented symptomatic disease in 51% of those vaccinated and prevented severe COVID-19 and hospitalization in 100% of the studied population.
 

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So you'll never go for a life saving operation when there is a possibility you might die. Got it. Get off your soap box, you're boring now.
if the operation is only to reduce an already low 2% chance of dying from your condition ... would you honestly call it "life saving"? would you go for it?
 

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Everyone of these threads devolves into SoldierMan arguing that the vaccine is some conspiracy theory BS, and yet he's allowed to run freely with it. It seems there are no mods in this forum so does that mean I can start posting midget porn here?
 

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if the operation is only to reduce an already low 2% chance of dying from your condition ... would you honestly call it "life saving"? would you go for it?
A 2% possibility of death would not be referred to as a life saving operation. Life saving operations are required when there is a very high possibility of death, you know it kinda is described as such...
 

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A 2% possibility of death would not be referred to as a life saving operation. Life saving operations are required when there is a very high possibility of death, you know it kinda is described as such...
now reflect on the fact that the virus itself in the case of covid only has a 2% chance of killing people in general ...
 

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Nowhere in there does it say that there is an efficacy threshold which a vaccine must meet to be called a vaccine, which was your original contention.
You know that link went to a link?
The 50% efficacy threshold set for COVID-19 vaccines is because COVID-19 was deemed such a severe disease, that if a vaccine is only 50% effective, it’s still worth using. Fortunately, the emerging data on COVID-19 vaccines suggests that the vaccines are very safe with high efficacy, at least against some of the variants.
We can play this game all day. Moron. or do you prefer idiot?
Whatever you want, your experience in being an idiot or moron is way beyond what I could ever achieve in my lifetime.
For reference, the only time 51% is mentioned in your own link:
For reference, those are the official Chinese claimed results out of a single party state that is known to control the narrative. They are not peer reviewed.
life saving operation, that was your analogy, you would not take it for a mere 2% risk, even if it reduces that risk

how is this covid reality so different?
So far we're at ~200m official cases of Covid, so 1:40, that includes that a large number of people in the world are now being vaccinated, lockdowns, etc.

Official deaths are considered underreported everywhere, South Africa is a very notable one.
 

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life saving operation, that was your analogy, you would not take it for a mere 2% risk, even if it reduces that risk

how is this covid reality so different?
Guy, you really lack lateral thinking. Are you going to catch diabetes, the need for a coronary bypass from standing in a queue? It might be a mere 2%, but that number is currently 4.16M, if you want to potentially join the statistic go ahead, nobody is stopping you. You can tell us how big man you are when you're stuck on a ventilator gasping for air.
 

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For reference, those are the official Chinese claimed results out of a single party state that is known to control the narrative. They are not peer reviewed.
But you just posted a WHO expose on how they themselves verified it.
 

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I doubt this will happen, firstly not everyone can take the vaccine. This is just more bullshit fear mongering.

No it's not. Government Gazette no 44700 specifically deals with mandatory vaccinations.

We may require some of our employees to be vaccinated as they are customer facing. Should they refuse they will be repurposed into a position that does not require them to see customers and should no such position exist, we will issue them with a s189 retrenchment.

This is not set in stone and has not officially been adopted as company policy. Mostly due to the fact that not a single employee I work with is a complete idiot does not want to get jabbed so it may be null and void.
 

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But you just posted a WHO expose on how they themselves verified it.
No, they validated it for official use, they did not validate the claims.
WHO’s Strategic Advisory Group of Experts on Immunization (SAGE) has also completed its review of the vaccine. On the basis of available evidence, WHO recommends the vaccine for use in adults 18 years and older, in a two-dose schedule with a spacing of two to four weeks.
For example the EU and the FDA do not recognize the Chinese vaccine as a valid immunization.

Your comprehension skills do show off your (lack of) talents quite well.
 

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No it's not. Government Gazette no 44700 specifically deals with mandatory vaccinations.

We may require some of our employees to be vaccinated as they are customer facing. Should they refuse they will be repurposed into a position that does not require them to see customers and should no such position exist, we will issue them with a s189 retrenchment.

This is not set in stone and has not officially been adopted as company policy. Mostly due to the fact that not a single employee I work with is a complete idiot does not want to get jabbed so it may be null and void.
It will get challenged in court.
 

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ditto for vaccine deaths and side effects ...
You missed the VAERS quote then, serious symptoms are over-reported. If you take a vaccine, you're generally monitored. If you die of Covid in a township, you're probably going to be buried somewhere and that's the end of that.
 

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you are on the side of doing exactly what the popular opinion is ... yet we lack lateral thinking? do you see the irony there?
So because it's the popular opinion it must be wrong? Great argument. Keep hearing the Big Pharma BS/news is captured, etc., yet no proof of it or reasoning as to why except "money" when Big Pharma already makes a lot of money in other ways and would be pretty much destroyed if the vaccine had negative repercussions by now considering the amount of testing/scrutiny going through it and the public backlash.

But don't you worry, I'm anti big pharma, the establishment is trying to control us with these microchipped vaccines, we'll all die from the 5G radiation.
 

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So because it's the popular opinion it must be wrong? Great argument.
no that argument is one you just conjured all by yourself

if you go back and read you'd see I merely pointed out the irony of following popular opinion (rightly or wrongly) and accusing others of not thinking laterally

a sheep doesn't get to pretend it is thinking laterally, the sheep might have stumbled upon the correct course of action regardless however
 
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