Crisis in Ukraine

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Ukraine military has begun heavy weapons withdrawal – military spokesman
Kiev troops are starting the long-promised withdrawal of heavy weapons from eastern Ukraine, a step required by the fragile ceasefire agreement signed earlier this month. The rebels have been criticizing their opponents for stalling the disengagement.

“In accordance with the agreement reached in Minsk on February 12, today Ukraine begins withdrawal of 100mm artillery from the disengagement line. It's the first step towards withdrawal of heavy weapons, which will only be carried out under OSCE monitoring and verification,” the Ukrainian Defense Ministry said in a statement.

The order to withdraw heavy weapons was given on Thursday after the Ukrainian military confirmed that they had not been shot at for a day. No combat casualties have been reported for a second day in a row.

READ MORE: Kiev's West-backed 'ludicrous demands' may derail ceasefire – Moscow

“If there are any attempts to launch an offensive, the withdrawal schedule will be changed. The Ukrainian troops are fully prepared to defend the country,” the statement added.

Meanwhile rebel forces are continuing to pull back their heavy weapons, as they have been doing for days.

“Today at 10am, an OSCE-monitored movement of our columns commenced. They recorded this movement,” rebel spokesman Eduard Basurin said.

The self-proclaimed Donetsk People's Republic said it wants to withdraw 180 artillery pieces and 17 rocket launchers on Thursday. Previously it withdrew 400 artillery pieces, including some 320 captured from the Ukrainian troops after their retreat from Debaltsevo.

The rebels voiced concerns over lack of similar moves by Kiev, suspecting it of foul play. Kiev insisted that it would keep its weapons in their positions until at least two days are spent without a single shot.

Moscow criticized Kiev's stubbornness, saying the condition it voiced was unrealistic.
http://rt.com/news/235751-ukraine-troops-withdrawal-front/

I'm sure the Russophobes will be heart-broken.
 

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Same to all pro russian pigs!
Pointing out that the Russians are humans too is not the same thing as being pro-Russian. And you have no foot to stand on when calling other people trolls. The vast majority of your posts are nothing but trollbait.

But there there, the fact that the Ukrainians have started to pull back their artillery is not the end of the world. I am sure there will be other potential massacres for you to root for in the near future.
 

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Pointing out that the Russians are humans too is not the same thing as being pro-Russian. And you have no foot to stand on when calling other people trolls. The vast majority of your posts are nothing but trollbait.

But there there, the fact that the Ukrainians have started to pull back their artillery is not the end of the world. I am sure there will be other potential massacres for you to root for in the near future.

Do not worry Your Putin will soon continue his USSR expansion.

Hey, I now only see a few of your toes sticking out from under, hows things in putins arse?


Pointing out that the Russians are humans too is not the same thing as being pro-Russian

Ignoring that the Ukrainians and Chetnyans are human too, a fact which the Russian army pigs and the Putin pig ignored, does not sway you? Neither the simple fact that the russian people had no say in the matter.
 
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Do not worry Your Putin will soon continue his USSR expansion.
Putin is not 'my' anything. The only reason he means anything to me at all is because he is a politician in control of another country on the same planet I inhabit. But then that puts him in the same category as every other leader of every other nation on this planet.

Hey, I now only see a few of your toes sticking out from under, hows things in putins arse?
I think perhaps you ought to cash in that cheque you have from reality.

Ignoring that the Ukrainians and Chetnyans are human too, a fact which the Russian army pigs and the Putin pig ignored, does not sway you? Neither the simple fact that the russian people had no say in the matter.
I do not see any meaningful difference between the Russians or the Chechyans or the Ukranians or the Aryans or any other arbitrarily collected group of people you wish to point at. They are all people.
 

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Putin is not 'my' anything. The only reason he means anything to me at all is because he is a politician in control of another country on the same planet I inhabit. But then that puts him in the same category as every other leader of every other nation on this planet.


I think perhaps you ought to cash in that cheque you have from reality.


I do not see any meaningful difference between the Russians or the Chechyans or the Ukranians or the Aryans or any other arbitrarily collected group of people you wish to point at. They are all people.


Refer me to your lambasting of Russia when they attacked Chetnya for wanting to sepperate. Your lopsided view of reality is more a problem than anything else.
 

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Refer me to your lambasting of Russia when they attacked Chetnya for wanting to sepperate. Your lopsided view of reality is more a problem than anything else.
Sorry, did Russia undergo a coup and a change in leadership which then started denouncing the Chechens and as a result the Chechens refused to recognise the authority in place after the coup and thus revolted?
 

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Sorry, did Russia undergo a coup and a change in leadership which then started denouncing the Chechens and as a result the Chechens refused to recognise the authority in place after the coup and thus revolted?

Whatever dude.

Just for your information. Does this not ring a bell anywhere up in there? The Modus operandi in Crimea and Ukraine seems all the same.

The first Chechen war (1991–96)

Over the course of 1994, Moscow attempted to foment a coup by backing anti-Dudayev groups within Chechnya. When these efforts failed to yield fruit, President Boris Yeltsin in November ordered the Chechens to peaceably accept Russian sovereignty or face armed intervention. When the Chechens did not surrender the reins of government, Russia invaded with a force of 40,000 men on December 11, 1994.

The second Chechen war (1997–99)

Although the Kremlin had opposed the U.S. and allied European bombing of Yugoslavia under the aegis of NATO (North Atlantic Treaty Organization) earlier in 1999, in September, the Russians in Grozny emulated the NATO strategy of strategic air offensives. At month's end, however, it became clear that bombing alone would not be enough, and as midnight approached on September 30, several thousand Russian soldiers, with the support of some 1,000 armored vehicles, advanced into northern Chechnya.

At the end of October came an announcement from Russia's defense minister, Igor Sergeyev, that Russian troops would remain in Chechnya "for a long time and seriously." This marked a reversal of Moscow's claim, made at the beginning of the offensive, that it was acting only to stop Chechen incursions into Dagestan. Meanwhile, the Russians had set up a government under the leadership of a pro-Russian parliament whose members had been living in Moscow since 1996.


Chechnya since 1999

The Russian and Chechen governments held a referendum in April, 2003, that saw large voter acceptance for a new Russian-backed constitution. Critics in Chechnya, however, charged that the referendum and constitution were simply a means toward providing an illusion of self-rule. Internationally, leaders of human rights groups, as well as some Western officials, described the election as an attempt by the Kremlin to avoid negotiation with guerrilla forces

http://www.faqs.org/espionage/Bl-Ch/Chechen-Russian-Conflict.html
 

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http://rt.com/business/235659-micex-stocks-investments-forecasts/

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Off course. If I had millions I would put in Russian stock which are so low now it can only go up in future once Putin regained sanity.

Wouldnt touch that country with Malemas money. I think there is still a long way it can possibly fall, but thats not my biggest concern. In Russia they hijack businesses all the time. So you might have shares in a company today, but tomorrow that companies CEO could be accused of tax evasion and now all your base are belong to Putin. This happens often in Russia.

The only way I would invest in that country is if Putin is removed from the picture through a REAL democratic election (not the bull**** farce they put on now)
 

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Wouldnt touch that country with Malemas money. I think there is still a long way it can possibly fall, but thats not my biggest concern. In Russia they hijack businesses all the time. So you might have shares in a company today, but tomorrow that companies CEO could be accused of tax evasion and now all your base are belong to Putin. This happens often in Russia.

The only way I would invest in that country is if Putin is removed from the picture through a REAL democratic election (not the bull**** farce they put on now)

As usual you are right yet again!
 

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Siberians 'join the fight' in Ukraine

Allegations of Russian military involvement in Ukraine have received new impetus from reported sightings of soldiers from Siberia.

Images emerging from rebel-held areas show armed men of Asian appearance common among ethnic groups in the Russian Far East, such as Buryats and Yakuts.

On 19 February, the day after the Ukrainians withdrew with heavy losses from the key strongpoint of Debaltseve, Russian broadsheet Kommersant ran a story by its reporter Ilya Barabanov who said he had seen and talked to Russian servicemen who had been fighting in the area. Among them were some from Siberia and the Russian Far East.

"They do what they have to do and then withdraw. Then, local rebels turn up in the captured towns or villages, at military offices and roadblocks to tell journalists of their past as coal miners," Barabanov said.

On the same day, the AFP news agency circulated pictures of Asian-looking men it called "pro-Russian separatists" playing football outside Debaltseve.

Shortly before the final assault on Debaltseve, Ukrainian battalion Donbas said in a Facebook posting that Russian troops were being deployed to the area. It quoted captured prisoners as saying that military vehicles were driven "exclusively by Buryats".

Mentions in pro-Kremlin media

Russian state-controlled Channel One added fuel to allegations of a Russian military presence in Debaltseve by broadcasting footage of an Asian-looking man helping raise the separatist flag over the town.

A website based in Russia's northeastern Siberian region Yakutia claimed that the man was an ethnic Yakut. He also featured in another video from Donetsk, where he was seen beating up a "deserter" from Moscow, the website said. But, it said, the man was not a regular army serviceman, but went to fight in eastern Ukraine to escape charges of car theft.

Later, another pro-Kremlin source, the News Front website, carried footage showing a badly burnt man being treated at a hospital in Donetsk. Speaking with difficulty from his hospital bed, he said he was a gunner from Buryatia.

Earlier reports

Reports that soldiers from Siberia were being deployed to Russia's border with Ukraine first appeared in November 2014. After studying images posted on social media, analysts from Ukrainian military research group Inform Napalm claimed they were members of the 5th Tank Brigade in Buryatia.

On 20 January 2015, Ukrainian journalist Roman Bochkala said Buryats wearing Russian army uniforms "inundated" the town of Alchevsk in Luhansk Region.

YouTube footage also appears to confirm claims that ethnic minorities from Russia, particularly Siberia, are fighting in Ukraine. In one clip, a man is shown sitting on top of an armoured personnel carrier in rebel-held Horlivka listing the names of towns in Siberia, particularly Buryatia (top picture).

There is no sizeable community of Siberian ethnic groups in Ukraine, which strongly suggests that these men have come from outside the country.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/monitoring/siberians-join-the-fight-in-ukraine
 

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This is what happens to "Adolf" Putins opponents:


MOSCOW — Boris Nemtsov, a longtime Russian opposition leader and sharp critic of President Vladi*mir Putin, was shot and killed in central Moscow, the Russian Interior Ministry said early Saturday.

Nemtsov, a central figure in Russian political life since the breakup of the Soviet Union, was a longtime leader of the opposition to Putin. He was one of the leaders of an opposition rally planned for Sunday.

There was no immediate information on who killed the 59-year-old opposition leader.

At least seven shots were fired at Nemtsov from a passing car, according to Vladimir Markin, a spokesman for the Russian Investigative Committee, the Interfax news agency reported. Investigators rushed to the scene and were questioning witnesses, he said.

Putin promptly assumed personal control of the murder investigation, said his spokesman, Dmitry Peskov. The move was a measure of the shockwaves sent out by the crime.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world...2e15f0-becb-11e4-b274-e5209a3bc9a9_story.html

Bold bit says it all, the real killers will never be found, some poor sap who Putin dislikes will be taking the fall.
 

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This is what happens to "Adolf" Putins opponents:

Bold bit says it all, the real killers will never be found, some poor sap who Putin dislikes will be taking the fall.

What can one say, this was all quite predictable.

Putin is becoming more and more like Stalin and Hitler.

Of course, at the time, Hitler was popular with the general population as well, due to the extensive use of propaganda, similar to what is happening in Russia at present.

Not sure about Stalin, think that he mostly ruled by fear.
 
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This should be good

[video=youtube;wWWgEg-_INM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWWgEg-_INM[/video]
 
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