Crisis in Ukraine

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So then why haven't the Ukrainians released their ATC data to the public to show up the Russians as being a bunch of liars? And thanks to the Ukrainian pilot for confirming the fact that Ukranian jets were shot down proving the need for the separatists to have defences against jets...

And I guess now we can finally put to rest the suspicious editing of Wikipedia a day after MH-17 where people anonymously edited the wiki page to reduce the celing of the SU-25 so as to show that it was "impossible" that a jet shot MH-17 down.

So what's your endgame Unhappy? Do you expect NATO boots on the ground in Ukraine?
Looks like the BBC deleted their own news report of the crash:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnbbwXcgZSNcvoWDQDq0VLQ
 

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That’s more a total done through sampling, they look at the required scale and escalation, estimate the units/groups and through this tally up the troops.
So the assumption is that the US has satellite images. Why don't they release it then as proof?
 

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So the assumption is that the US has satellite images. Why don't they release it then as proof?

You made that assumption. This is simple logistics, however the article do state these as probable evidence:

- Russian mainstream and social media
- reporters on the ground
- Ukrainian media
- analysis of freely available satellite imagery by citizen journalists
- information released by the US and its Nato allies

The disaster in East Ukraine escalated and the scale thus increased, the article state that there was several interventions:

- initially deniable, in the summer of 2014, with perhaps a few hundred special forces organising locals and Russian volunteers
- large-scale escalation, during August 2014, when several Russian regular army battalion tactical groups (numbering up to 1,000 each) were sent in to save the separatists from defeat by the Ukrainian military
- a period of withdrawal and retrenchment, late in 2014, following September's Minsk ceasefire agreement, in which Russian troop numbers dropped
- the reintroduction of several formed battalions and numerous specialist troops during renewed fighting, this January and February, allowing the capture of Debaltseve and a good deal of other territory from the Ukrainians

The above indicated by RUSI: https://www.rusi.org/publications/other/ref:O54FDBCF478D8B/

Count the average sizes entailing military units as established by the article and you will end up with a ~12000 estimate.
 

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You made that assumption. This is simple logistics, however the article do state these as probable evidence:



The disaster in East Ukraine escalated and the scale thus increased, the article state that there was several interventions:



The above indicated by RUSI: https://www.rusi.org/publications/other/ref:O54FDBCF478D8B/

Count the average sizes entailing military units as established by the article and you will end up with a ~12000 estimate.
RUSI (with the Queen of England as patron) quotes a blog and suddenly the whole thing becomes fact?

If the US has sat imagery then they should publish it instead of relying on blogs, Twitter and facebook/VK photos.
 

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RUSI (with the Queen of England as patron)

So now what does the Queen of England have to do with it? You do realise that she is independent and politically impartial, by law, not to mention a patron of an organisation has no operational responsibility beyond being a PR figurehead?
 

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So now what does the Queen of England have to do with it? You do realise that she is independent and politically impartial, by law, not to mention a patron of an organisation has no operational responsibility beyond being a PR figurehead?
Her crown is on every British soldier's uniform. Don't talk about impartiality.
 

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Her crown is on every British soldier's uniform. Don't talk about impartiality.

Oh my word, you really are clueless...

What do you think the Queens role and powers actually are?

"Her crown is on every British soldiers uniform" you sure of that, Mr PropaGanda?
 

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So now what does the Queen of England have to do with it? You do realise that she is independent and politically impartial, by law, not to mention a patron of an organisation has no operational responsibility beyond being a PR figurehead?
Oh come now. To suggest that in her unique position not to mention being head of one of the wealthiest families in the world she doesn't have the capacity to wield immense influence in Britain through unofficial channels?

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/p...sh-weapons-sales-in-middle-east-10019816.html <- random example, barely a month old.

It's quite clear that the British royal family is still intimately connected with British governance.
 

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http://rt.com/business/239993-imf-loan-to-ukraine/
The $17.5 billion loan approved by the IMF won’t save Ukraine from hopeless poverty; instead, it will inflict a blow on the country’s population already living on the breadline, said the ex-head of the National Bank of Ukraine Sergei Arbuzov.

None of the options proposed by the IMF would improve the economy, said Arbuzov to Izvestia, adding that the biggest mistake made by the government was working with the IMF instead of working with the economy.

READ MORE: IMF approves $17.5bn bailout package for Ukraine

“Ukraine had all the reasons to talk with the IMF and international creditors not about the loan, but about debt relief and the restructuring of the remaining debt in long-term securities with low profitability,” he said. “I do not see the reasons for the allies to refuse to make concession to the war-torn country that has experienced the Maidan. Instead, we’ve come up with an involuntary servitude variant, even without trying to negotiate.”

The IMF loan will only partly solve the short-term problems of Ukraine, and won’t level the global imbalances. The payments on public debt will be about $11 billion in 2015. That means all of the money received from the IMF, except a few billion for supporting the exchange rate will be used to pay foreign debts. But the payment of foreign debt would in no way become an incentive for attracting investment into Ukraine, Arbuzov said.

“Will it solve the problems of Ukraine, which is de facto only refinancing debt? Definitely no. As a result, the debt will become even larger,” he said.

“What did the government set up social experiments on the population for? The paradox is that for anything but for the sake of the population itself,” he said, adding that now is the time for average people to pay for the Ukrainian government’s mistakes.

The real income of the Ukrainian population is already on the brink, with many living below the poverty line. The government will soon face the choice of whether to refuse granting some people with subsidies, and thus raising social discontent, or to resort to printing money, causing another round of inflation, Arbuzov suggests.

Cuts in pension payments, social services and health care, as well as the reduction in the Naftogaz deficit by higher prices for gas and utility services were among the terms for providing financial aid to Ukraine. Arbuzov says raising tariffs could only theoretically solve the problem of Naftogaz, as the scale of the deficit won’t let Ukraine raise the overall standard of living.

“It's no secret that a significant share of Naftogaz’s losses is associated not with low tariffs but with poor governance and debt service,” he said. “The technical losses of Naftogaz alone are 20 percent and these issues cannot be solved by raising tariffs.”

The increase in tariffs makes it possible to leave everything as an inefficient and non-transparent system; it’s easier to keep afloat especially at the expense of ordinary citizens. “And this applies not only to Naftogaz,” he added.

Europe doesn’t care

“Time has already shown what we were talking about a year and a half ago: The European market has no need for Ukraine. Last year, despite the favorable terms of the EU, our exports there grew only by 1.5 percent,” said Arbuzov.

“At the same time, we lost the markets of other countries and the exports to some of them fell by 30-40 percent. The government continues to knock on closed doors.”

China, for example, is willing to invest in real Ukrainian projects, he said recalling the agreements signed by the two countries.

“In 2013, during my visit to Beijing, we agreed on projects worth $30 billion. The new authorities weren’t able to realize almost any of it, only having started the implementation of a swap with China, signed back in 2012.”

Talking about the latest IMF decision on Ukraine, one shouldn’t forget the example of Greece that agreed to receive loans from lenders with multiple cuts in expenditure and no adequate structural reforms.

As a result, Greece plunged into a deep economic crisis caused by austerity measures and is unable to pay off its debts totaling €246 billion. The country’s GDP has slumped a quarter to €242 billion. A third of Greeks live below the poverty line and the unemployment rate has reached 30 percent.

READ MORE: Expectations and reality: What Maidan gave Ukraine's economy

"The Ukrainian population possesses around $100 billion. This particular money, and not the IMF funds, can become that cheaper domestic resource that will give rise to the country’s development,” he said. “However, it needs to be involved not by raising taxes and through a permanent political crisis.”

The IMF agreed to provide Ukraine with $17.5 billion in financial aid within the next four years. The total amount of money to be granted to Ukraine from all other foreign creditors is expected to be up to $40 billion.

The fund’s decision will help the country avoid default as it has nothing to pay the current debts with. The government hopes that other international lenders will later join the IMF and assist Ukraine in overcoming the crisis. However, the success will depend on how the country’s authorities carry out the painful economic reforms requested by the IMF.
And so the countdown to banana republic begins...

Edit: Wonder how the Maidan movement will react when they finally realise they were duped by the EU.
 
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Russia gets seat on SWIFT board

Increased banking traffic means Russia now has a seat on the board of the SWIFT global interbank communications system. The seat comes at a time of increased pressure for Russia to be removed from the organization because of sanctions.

It is the first time Russia has had a seat on the 25-member board of directors of the Society for Worldwide Interbank Financial Telecommunication (SWIFT) since it joined in 1989. Every three years the organization reconfigures the shares among the countries participating. Each country receives a number of shares in proportion to the traffic in the system. The reallocation has led to changes in the structure of the board.

“By the end of 2014 the SWIFT traffic growth in Russia allowed us to reach thirteenth place in the world, so Russia has increased its stake to a level that allows it to nominate a candidate to the Board of Directors”, the executive director of the Russian National SWIFT Association Roman Chernov told RBC.

On this basis, Russia gained a seat as Hong Kong lost one, Belgium gained an additional seat giving it two and the Netherlands lost a seat giving it one, according to The Banker.

“The threat of disconnection from SWIFT does not decrease after the appearance of the Russian representative on the board of directors, since the decision to disconnect from SWIFT is independent, but such a presence means that we can influence decisions made by SWIFT in terms of the introduction of the new standards, service improvements, and tariff systems”, Alma Obaeva, the Chairman of the non-commercial National Payments Council was cited as saying by RBC.

In August 2014, EU leaders had been trying to use the interbank system as part of their anti-Russian sanctions, pushing SWIFT to disconnect Russia from the system. However, Belgium-based SWIFT didn’t bow to pressure as it had “no authority to make sanctions decisions.”

At the end of last year, the Central Bank of Russia (CBR) launched an alternative to SWIFT for domestic payments which was a part of a broader move to get away from Western financial dominance. The new service allows credit institutions to transmit messages in a SWIFT format through the Central Bank to all Russia’s regions without restrictions.

The SWIFT system connects more than 10,000 banks in more than 200 countries and provides the messaging that makes trillions of dollars of international payments possible. SWIFT, is currently one of Russia’s main connections to the international banking system. In Russia, ROSSWIFT is the second biggest worldwide SWIFT association after the US.

The interbank system has 23 offices around the world. The new board of directors will be approved at the annual meeting of SWIFT’s shareholders in June 2015; the Russian director will assume the post for a three-year period

http://rt.com/business/239581-swift-russia-board-traffic/
 
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