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Unhappy438
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No i wouldnt consider daily mail a good source.
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Daily_Mail
What i will point out is that the riot police are shooting rubber bullets. The Berkut were the guys that fired sniper rifles and killed people. Although according to the conspiracy theories it was other people and not Berkut or police?
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Unhappy438
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it doesn't matter, ignore the warning message. I just copy and paste from the site.
no response?
time to sleep.
good night.
Cool, same here. I will watch them tomorrow and tell you what i think
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The guy hardly speaks English, and when he manages a semi-coherent sentence, it's about as bigoted as a person can get. I don't know why you lot continue to give this halfwit your attention. Just ignore him like the rest of the forum has done...
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Not.
The Daily Heil is probably the least reliable UK tabloid newspaper, I wouldn't believe anything that they print as the truth without independent verification elsewhere.
Unhappy438
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Unfortunately im not aware of all the troll individuals in this section of the forum, i was starting to get a good inclination with Dreamking though. On to the ignore list he goes.
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CANADA REJECTS CRIMEA'S 'SO-CALLED REFERENDUM'
Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper joined allies around the world in rejecting Crimea's breakaway referendum Sunday, and warned of fresh sanctions on Russia.
With more than half the ballots counted, preliminary results showed 95.5 percent of voters were in favor of leaving Ukraine and rejoining former political master Russia.
"The so-called referendum held today was conducted with Crimea under illegal military occupation," Harper said in a statement.
"Its results are a reflection of nothing more than Russian military control."
The Canadian leader, who is due to visit Ukraine on Saturday, said Canada and its partners in the G7 (the world's Group of Eight most industrialized nations minus Russia) were working with other allies to "coordinate additional sanctions against those responsible."
"This 'referendum' is illegitimate, it has no legal effect and we do not recognize its outcome," he added.
Source : Sapa-AFP /ns
Date : 17 Mar 2014 03:58
Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper joined allies around the world in rejecting Crimea's breakaway referendum Sunday, and warned of fresh sanctions on Russia.
With more than half the ballots counted, preliminary results showed 95.5 percent of voters were in favor of leaving Ukraine and rejoining former political master Russia.
"The so-called referendum held today was conducted with Crimea under illegal military occupation," Harper said in a statement.
"Its results are a reflection of nothing more than Russian military control."
The Canadian leader, who is due to visit Ukraine on Saturday, said Canada and its partners in the G7 (the world's Group of Eight most industrialized nations minus Russia) were working with other allies to "coordinate additional sanctions against those responsible."
"This 'referendum' is illegitimate, it has no legal effect and we do not recognize its outcome," he added.
Source : Sapa-AFP /ns
Date : 17 Mar 2014 03:58
LazyLion
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JAPAN URGES RUSSIA NOT TO ANNEX CRIMEA
Japan on Monday said it would "strongly urge" Russia not to annex Crimea, joining a chorus of criticism over a weekend referendum by the region of Ukraine as Washington hinted at fresh sanctions against Moscow.
With more than half the ballots counted, preliminary results showed 95.5 percent of voters were in favour of leaving Ukraine and rejoining former political master Russia.
The vote would mark the most radical redrawing of the map of Europe since Kosovo's 2008 declaration of independence from Serbia, and follows the ouster of Ukraine's pro-Moscow leader.
"Our country does not approve the result" of the referendum, Chief Cabinet Secretary Yoshihide Suga, the Japanese government's top spokesman, told a regular news conference.
"Japan will strongly urge Russia to abide by international law completely, respect Ukraine's sovereignty and integrity of its territory, and not to go ahead with annexing Crimea," he added.
The comments came as US President Barack Obama hinted at possible additional sanctions on Russia, warning his counterpart Vladimir Putin that the United States and its allies would "never" recognise Crimea's breakaway vote held Sunday.
Suga said Japan would cooperate with other Group of Seven world powers in dealing with the Crimea issue.
Tokyo has started to study possible economic sanctions against Russia, the leading Nikkei business daily reported Sunday, citing unnamed government sources.
Source : Sapa-AFP /ns
Date : 17 Mar 2014 05:14
Japan on Monday said it would "strongly urge" Russia not to annex Crimea, joining a chorus of criticism over a weekend referendum by the region of Ukraine as Washington hinted at fresh sanctions against Moscow.
With more than half the ballots counted, preliminary results showed 95.5 percent of voters were in favour of leaving Ukraine and rejoining former political master Russia.
The vote would mark the most radical redrawing of the map of Europe since Kosovo's 2008 declaration of independence from Serbia, and follows the ouster of Ukraine's pro-Moscow leader.
"Our country does not approve the result" of the referendum, Chief Cabinet Secretary Yoshihide Suga, the Japanese government's top spokesman, told a regular news conference.
"Japan will strongly urge Russia to abide by international law completely, respect Ukraine's sovereignty and integrity of its territory, and not to go ahead with annexing Crimea," he added.
The comments came as US President Barack Obama hinted at possible additional sanctions on Russia, warning his counterpart Vladimir Putin that the United States and its allies would "never" recognise Crimea's breakaway vote held Sunday.
Suga said Japan would cooperate with other Group of Seven world powers in dealing with the Crimea issue.
Tokyo has started to study possible economic sanctions against Russia, the leading Nikkei business daily reported Sunday, citing unnamed government sources.
Source : Sapa-AFP /ns
Date : 17 Mar 2014 05:14
LazyLion
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CRIMEANS WARY OF FUTURE AFTER SECESSION VOTE
by Dario THUBURN
Crimeans woke up to an uncertain future on Monday after a referendum that raises the prospect of months-long economic turmoil and a legal vacuum ahead of a planned merger with Russia.
As the notes of Russia's national anthem died down after blasting out over crowds of thousands in the streets of Crimea on Sunday, locals were left scratching their heads over a vote that turns their region into something of a pariah.
Unrecognised by most of the international community except Russia, Crimea is now expected to gradually transition to direct Russian rule but no one knows exactly how or when.
"I like my habits, my routines. It frightens me a little... We'll see," said 70-year-old Anna Ivanovna, who voted to leave Ukraine and join Russia.
Crimea's pro-Moscow leader Sergiy Aksyonov has repeatedly assured residents that transition to Russian rule will be simple and he plans to introduce the ruble from this week alongside the Ukrainian hryvnia for around six months.
But Crimeans are not so confident and there has been a run on the banks, with many rushing to take money out of their accounts -- especially at branches of Ukrainian national banks that might now be shut down.
Crimea depends on the rest of Ukraine for electricity, heating and water so basic services could also be affected should Kiev take the implications of Crimea's self-determination to their logical conclusion and cut supplies.
In any case, the decision will be up to Moscow where the parliament has yet to approve a law allowing the territories of foreign countries to join Russia.
In the interval between leaving Ukraine and tying up with its former Soviet master, Crimea will function de facto independently and Aksyonov has said it can easily survive economically -- with help from Russia.
What will happen to Ukrainian military bases and the thousands of personnel who live there is another pressing issue -- as are security concerns among the native Tatars, who make up around 12 percent of Crimea's population of two million people.
Memories of the mass deportations organised under Moscow's Soviet rule in the 1940s are still fresh in the Muslim Turkic-speaking minority community.
"I'm full of emotions. I thought that other countries would support us. I feel sad about what's happening now," said 28-year-old Seytkhalin.
"We were just getting back on our feet even though no one helped us."
Even the most fervent advocates of union with Russia admit the path ahead is unclear and Aksyonov has said that formal secession could take up to a year.
"Life does not change that quickly. There will be a lot of technical, political and economic issues to resolve," Valery Medvedev, an official at a polling station in the historic port city of Sevastopol, said on Sunday.
Natalya said she was living in "anxiety" but was more optimistic.
"I am hoping for a brighter future," said the 35-year-old law graduate and housewife mother of two children.
"I studied Ukrainian laws but I'm not against learning something new. "I think everything will sort itself out," she said.
Source : Sapa-AFP /ns
Date : 17 Mar 2014 06:22
by Dario THUBURN
Crimeans woke up to an uncertain future on Monday after a referendum that raises the prospect of months-long economic turmoil and a legal vacuum ahead of a planned merger with Russia.
As the notes of Russia's national anthem died down after blasting out over crowds of thousands in the streets of Crimea on Sunday, locals were left scratching their heads over a vote that turns their region into something of a pariah.
Unrecognised by most of the international community except Russia, Crimea is now expected to gradually transition to direct Russian rule but no one knows exactly how or when.
"I like my habits, my routines. It frightens me a little... We'll see," said 70-year-old Anna Ivanovna, who voted to leave Ukraine and join Russia.
Crimea's pro-Moscow leader Sergiy Aksyonov has repeatedly assured residents that transition to Russian rule will be simple and he plans to introduce the ruble from this week alongside the Ukrainian hryvnia for around six months.
But Crimeans are not so confident and there has been a run on the banks, with many rushing to take money out of their accounts -- especially at branches of Ukrainian national banks that might now be shut down.
Crimea depends on the rest of Ukraine for electricity, heating and water so basic services could also be affected should Kiev take the implications of Crimea's self-determination to their logical conclusion and cut supplies.
In any case, the decision will be up to Moscow where the parliament has yet to approve a law allowing the territories of foreign countries to join Russia.
In the interval between leaving Ukraine and tying up with its former Soviet master, Crimea will function de facto independently and Aksyonov has said it can easily survive economically -- with help from Russia.
What will happen to Ukrainian military bases and the thousands of personnel who live there is another pressing issue -- as are security concerns among the native Tatars, who make up around 12 percent of Crimea's population of two million people.
Memories of the mass deportations organised under Moscow's Soviet rule in the 1940s are still fresh in the Muslim Turkic-speaking minority community.
"I'm full of emotions. I thought that other countries would support us. I feel sad about what's happening now," said 28-year-old Seytkhalin.
"We were just getting back on our feet even though no one helped us."
Even the most fervent advocates of union with Russia admit the path ahead is unclear and Aksyonov has said that formal secession could take up to a year.
"Life does not change that quickly. There will be a lot of technical, political and economic issues to resolve," Valery Medvedev, an official at a polling station in the historic port city of Sevastopol, said on Sunday.
Natalya said she was living in "anxiety" but was more optimistic.
"I am hoping for a brighter future," said the 35-year-old law graduate and housewife mother of two children.
"I studied Ukrainian laws but I'm not against learning something new. "I think everything will sort itself out," she said.
Source : Sapa-AFP /ns
Date : 17 Mar 2014 06:22
LazyLion
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Crimea Parliament Declares Independence From Ukraine After Referendum...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/...nce_n_4977584.html?ncid=fcbklnkushpmg00000063
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/...nce_n_4977584.html?ncid=fcbklnkushpmg00000063
LazyLion
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The definition of a troll is one who assumes a contrary position even when the evidence shows him to be wrong.
Personally I think you and a few others in this thread have assumed that mantle already.
I don't put people on ignore, but I do ignore them when they have proven to be trolling.
DreamKing
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can I say "you" and that unhappy guy are trolls now?
LazyLion
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Sure, whatever makes you happy.
At the end of the day it is your reputation and how you behave on this forum that will determine whether people will respect you or not.
Seems to me like you have already passed the point where you have lost people's respect.
Nobody wants to waste their time debating with someone who appears to be trolling.
The only person to blame for that is you.
DreamKing
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go to watch the video.
go to hear the phone recording
go to construct the timeline how and why it happened.
those are the evidences.
the media told you, and Obama told you or the EU commissioner told you .... etc those are NOT evidences.
go to hear the phone recording
go to construct the timeline how and why it happened.
those are the evidences.
the media told you, and Obama told you or the EU commissioner told you .... etc those are NOT evidences.
DreamKing
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LazyLion
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same to you
Whatever floats your boat Dude. It's no skin off my nose.
You are the one who has to live with the consequences of your posting style.
Same as everyone else here.
Deal with it, don't deal with it.
I don't care.
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