CSA - new quotas for 2015/16

[MickeyD]

The current quota system an domestic level:

1. Franchises: field at least 5 players of colour, of which 2 must be black Africans.
2. Provincial teams: must have 6 players of colour in their starting XI, including at least 3 black Africans.

New quotas for 2015/16:

1. Franchises: field at least 6 players of colour, of which 3 must be black Africans.
2. Provincial teams: must have 7 players of colour in their starting XI, including at least 4 black Africans.

 

[Wall]

The current quota system an domestic level:

1. Franchises: field at least 5 players of colour, of which 2 must be black Africans.
2. Provincial teams: must have 6 players of colour in their starting XI, including at least 3 black Africans.

New quotas for 2015/16:

1. Franchises: field at least 6 players of colour, of which 3 must be black Africans.
2. Provincial teams: must have 7 players of colour in their starting XI, including at least 4 black Africans.

is there any official quota in the national team selection?

 

[Drifter]

is there any official quota in the national team selection?

Nope.

 

[Wall]

Nope.

thought as much. thanks

 

[ZCFOutkast]

New quotas for 2015/16:

1. Franchises: field at least 6 players of colour, of which 3 must be black Africans.
2. Provincial teams: must have 7 players of colour in their starting XI, including at least 4 black Africans.

2015, we're talking almost 25 years of international cricket/re-admission. There's not a single black player in the team regularly. This is embarassing. The only one at the world showpiece Phangiso was only good enough to serve drinks against Zimbabwe, UAE, Ireland, or even West Indies!

In my opinion 3 in Franchise, and 4 in Provincial is still way too small. It should be 4 & 5 respectively. Blacks far outnumber other races combined in junior, schools sides - never mind the population stats. There are a lot of non-Black passengers in these franchise&provincial teams - serial underperformers with bat and ball who are taking up necessary transformation spots.

Several of them have shown ability in various formats and putting in sterling performances in the domestic scene - Mbhalati, Gqamane, Bavuma, Tsolekile, Zondo, Shezi, Phangiso, Tsotsobe, Ramela, Mosehle etc. This was as a result of being given that opportunity through enforced quotas. Technically, this yields a 70%+ success rate of that Black contingent being pretty successful FC players.

Out of those Bavuma, Shezi&Rabada have proven to be good enough to hold their own if given time in international cricket, with Gqamane decent for the A side before, while Ramela in FC; and Zondo in ListA&Twenty20 have displayed sufficient qualities to move on to the next level. Proven results of producing quality players through enforced quotas. Rabada's own rapid development and natural pace being a prime example of the influx of excellence that can filter through straight from the junior reserves.

 

[ZCFOutkast]

is there any official quota in the national team selection?

There should be, and will be after the farce of this CWC.

There is no getting away from the fact that 7 World Cups after re-admission and 20 years after independence, not a single Black player was picked to play in 7 games!

With that in mind, I think the powers that be will comfortably introduce quotas, with no fear of well placed criticism. A minimum of 2/3 Black players for the national team, and a minimum of four in the squad.

 

[Hemi300c]

And soccer?

 

[Noob-Noob]

is there any official quota in the national team selection?

Not yet.
But it will happen, unfortunately, I have absolutely no doubt.

 

[Sm00thSm0k3]

ZFC you honestly have some serious butt-hurt when it comes to us Caucasians don't you. Not sure whether it's jealousy or just raw hatred...haven't quite figured it out yet.

You're just one of the few reasons why this country will never reach it's true potential and why racial divides and racism is still so prevalent in this country.

Your "all-black" agenda is getting old...we've had a 100% black national football team for years and years so please tell us how that is working out for you?! What wonderful example of a bunch of spoilt overpaid, underachievers!

 

[Ho3n3r]

The current quota system an domestic level:

1. Franchises: field at least 5 players of colour, of which 2 must be black Africans.
2. Provincial teams: must have 6 players of colour in their starting XI, including at least 3 black Africans.

New quotas for 2015/16:

1. Franchises: field at least 6 players of colour, of which 3 must be black Africans.
2. Provincial teams: must have 7 players of colour in their starting XI, including at least 4 black Africans.

Legalised racism.

 

[Ho3n3r]

ZFC you honestly have some serious butt-hurt when it comes to us Caucasians don't you. Not sure whether it's jealousy or just raw hatred...haven't quite figured it out yet.

You're just one of the few reasons why this country will never reach it's true potential and why racial divides and racism is still so prevalent in this country.

He's just trolling. People like him are the reason an Ignore function was invented.

 

[Noob-Noob]

ZFC you honestly have some serious butt-hurt when it comes to us Caucasians don't you. Not sure whether it's jealousy or just raw hatred...haven't quite figured it out yet.

You're just one of the few reasons why this country will never reach it's true potential and why racial divides and racism is still so prevalent in this country.

Talking about our local troll?, just follow my signature, problem solved.

 

[Fulcrum29]

There should be, and will be after the farce of this CWC.

There is no getting away from the fact that 7 World Cups after re-admission and 20 years after independence, not a single Black player was picked to play in 7 games!

With that in mind, I think the powers that be will comfortably introduce quotas, with no fear of well placed criticism. A minimum of 2/3 Black players for the national team, and a minimum of four in the squad.

Tell me Zimbabwe Cricket Fan, what has the re-admission and independence have to do with squad selection?

 

[ZCFOutkast]

ZFC you honestly have some serious butt-hurt when it comes to us Caucasians don't you. Not sure whether it's jealousy or just raw hatred...haven't quite figured it out yet.

You're just one of the few reasons why this country will never reach it's true potential and why racial divides and racism is still so prevalent in this country.

Are you seriously saying my points are not valid and the only thing you can pick from them is "hatred"?

I think the powers at be at CSA are actually emarassed that there's no Black player who played in the CWC, and there will and should be repercussions for that. We are ranked 3rd in ODIs (behind AUS&IND), yet we lost to PAK(7), were not clear favourites and everyone was anxious about beating SL(5) in the QF, now the same is happening over NZ(4).

The top four sides are in the Semis of which SA is one and the CSA might claim that's proggress since we've NEVER won a knock-out - all of this without quotas in the sstem. However, AUS walloped us while rotating their fringe players in a series there, and India whom AUS routinely thumped also thumped us with great ease. A huge gap between us and them was underlined recently. Chances are NZ will do the same. What's there for me to be jealous of? I'm stating facts here.

In Tests, we still can't beat AUS in our own backyard even though they are at their weakest and rebuilding. Even IND&SL beat us in our own backyard. Quotas have to happen. Besides, in battin gterms we are a two-man team anywa (Amla&AB), while Steyn&Philander these days take turns to turn up while the rest are passengers.

This is the time to enforce giving the like of Rabada&Bavuma free passage to play and develop, something others have received but they will be denied.

 

[ZCFOutkast]

Legalised racism.

That's what the mafia of Smith, Kallis, AB, Boucher & Polly practiced. Don't you read?

 

[jambai]

There should be, and will be after the farce of this CWC.

There is no getting away from the fact that 7 World Cups after re-admission and 20 years after independence, not a single Black player was picked to play in 7 games!

With that in mind, I think the powers that be will comfortably introduce quotas, with no fear of well placed criticism. A minimum of 2/3 Black players for the national team, and a minimum of four in the squad.

are you going to write a letter to athletics USA as well as the the USA sprinting team not a representation of the demographics of the USA ? Or is that not how it works? Are there a over representation of white taxpayers in south africa and some of us can expect a tax relief soon or are you just cherry picking?

 

[Napalm2880]

There's not a single black player in the team regularly. This is embarassing.

Do you know what's embarrassing? It's a team of losers, half comprised of players that don't deserve to be there. That haven't earned their right to be there. A team with no unity. A team which puts it's best players on the bench to meet political agendas.

Racial quotas have no place in sport and I'm sure if you had to ask the players for their opinions, they would agree.

 

[Ho3n3r]

are you going to write a letter to athletics USA as well as the the USA sprinting team not a representation of the demographics of the USA ? Or is that not how it works? Are there a over representation of white taxpayers in south africa and some of us can expect a tax relief soon or are you just cherry picking?

It's no use arguing with him dude. Spare yourself the trouble.

 

[jambai]

It's no use arguing with him dude. Spare yourself the trouble.

I know you cant change people that have fallen trap to propaganda.You cant argue only one little point by not bringing in all the factors like how many play cricket and how big is the pool to choose from,what facilities do they have,how many drop out ? etc etc

 

[ZCFOutkast]

are you going to write a letter to athletics USA as well as the the USA sprinting team not a representation of the demographics of the USA ? Or is that not how it works? Are there a over representation of white taxpayers in south africa and some of us can expect a tax relief soon or are you just cherry picking?

Natural considering the over-representation in "stolen" wealth by many. Hence the empowerment drives, and calls for nationalisation.

That's besides the point. We're talkign sports here. Too much money has been ploughed into the game in the name of development and transfromation. What are the results 7 Cricket World Cups later? Not a single Black player in the XI of the ODI team. And that rings true of the T20&ODI side.

We naturalised an adult Pakistani who embarassed for years and years, ignoring Balck spinners who too could've had the privilege of embarassing for years and years, but as proper South Africans.

Non-White players always get the short end of the stick. I've said many times how even Amla was dropped, yet poor players are today retained and shown patience. Reeza a natural opener, the best in the domestic scene is not being picked and shown faith. Failing players are rotated in positions until they come good, yet none of that was done for Alviro. Now even Philander is kept out of the side, yet he is not the weakest among our four seamers - easily our most dangerous in these conditions. If he was white none of that would be happening to him. #FACT!

The problems in South Africa are deep man. Very deep! Too many people in denial.

I said when I got to this forum certain things woul dhappen and people must look out for them and I've been proven true at every turn.

Even AB has gone to the extent of refusing to keep wicket, just so that an ailing QdK could remain in it. No captain in the same position in the same mind would've done that.

Baz wouldn't have hesitated to drop Ronchi and keep himself. In the sam esituation Sangakkara wouldn't have hesitated to drop Chandimal and keep himself. I have no doubt Prior would've dropped Bairstow and kept himself. In all those cases the selectorsadministrators would've pushed for that move. Sanga&Baz would not dare say "I don't want to keep". In SA that can happen, especially if it keeps Farhaan out after a decent knock.