Cyberpunk 2077 - What the reviews are saying

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Miss the days when games were finished when they were released.

Nowadays developers expect people to pay for unfinished, unpatched games and most people seem ok with that.

Personally I'll be waiting a few months before getting the game
 
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Looking at the TomsHardware performance review, it looks like it runs like shet.
 

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Miss the days when games were finished when they were released.

Nowadays developers expect people to pay for unfinished, unpatched games and most people seem ok with that.

Personally I'll be waiting a few months before getting the game

Jirre, to be fair though, I don't think the average person can even conceive what a monumental task it is to create something as complex as modern AAA games (granted some dev houses do take the piss)

If I just look at the tasks I have to perform for our corporate clients somedays and what a clusterf**k getting even simple things done is, then waiting a bit more for things to get polished is a tiny price to pay and still a massive accomplishment on something of this scale and complexity.

"But despite eight years of development and three release delays, the critical consensus is that the game could have used more time in the oven."

That's some dedication right there.
Imagine the progress made in 8 years in tech alone. Working your nuts off to build something and by the time it's done you have to start again to get up to date and up to expectations.
 

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Miss the days when games were finished when they were released.

Nowadays developers expect people to pay for unfinished, unpatched games and most people seem ok with that.

Personally I'll be waiting a few months before getting the game
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Miss the days when games were finished when they were released.

Nowadays developers expect people to pay for unfinished, unpatched games and most people seem ok with that.

Personally I'll be waiting a few months before getting the game
Back then you didn't have

+covid
+leftist agendas
+scope and/or fidelity
+platform range
+publisher (imperial) entanglement

etc.

As a developer myself I don't expect 200% less bugs but at least a ball park of a running product with least to no bugs.
 

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Back then you didn't have

+covid
+leftist agendas
+scope and/or fidelity
+platform range
+publisher (imperial) entanglement

etc.

As a developer myself I don't expect 200% less bugs but at least a ball park of a running product with least to no bugs.

In my opinion, it is okay to have a game launch with bugs, but the bugs shouldn't break progression or immersion because then the product is in a broken state which brings Q&A into question.
 

Herr der Verboten

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In my opinion, it is okay to have a game launch with bugs, but the bugs shouldn't break progression or immersion because then the product is in a broken state which brings Q&A into question.
Normally I would pass it by myself to find all I can which is breaking.
Then same for anything else.

That is stage 1.

Then it should get peer reviewed with same process in mind.

That was stage 2.

Finally it passes onto QA with same process in mind.

Continue with this loop until 'ball park' has been reached.
 

Mike Hoxbig

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Miss the days when games were finished when they were released.

Nowadays developers expect people to pay for unfinished, unpatched games and most people seem ok with that.

Personally I'll be waiting a few months before getting the game
Games were a lot less complex then, making it easier to QA.

They're not making Sonic 2 here where you can just speed through it in an hour. These are complex open world games with hundred of interactable characters and story decision trees.

You're looking at thousands of man hours to test something like this. It's virtually impossible to go through every nook and cranny. At some point a decision needs to be made as to what an acceptable state is for release, because if they need to go through everything, it will never be released.

GTA V is about to be released on its 3rd gen of consoles, and 8 years later it still has bugs...
 

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My only disappointment with CDPR is that they themselves decided to do a preview review with reviewers, and they did select their reviewers. As I know now, only some were allowed to publish their reviews, but I guess it may very well be due to some only doing video reviews which are disallowed to be published at this time.

The embargo is clear, no discussion on bugs in detail (which YongYea didn't abide by), though some mentioned that they experienced bugs, and no video content other than that provided by CDPR until the day the game is released.
 
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