Cyclists could be forced to get number plates and insurance under Highway Code changes (in the UK)

[Nerfherder]

So, the day labourer, the gardener at the complex up the road, and so on. You gonna foot the bill for all this bullshit?

So who is going to fit the bill for when he falls in front of a car ?

Yes, I think all cars should have insurance as well. We have the RAF for cars and it should cover bicycles as well.

 

[Cosmik Debris]

Hardly.

Also it doesn't need to be a big tax. Like R200 per year.

I would go for R20 a year. At least the guy is paying and realises he's not above the law.

 

[Kieppie]

Why not? A plate affixed to the saddle behind the lycra covered asre and the same size will be highly visible. About the same size as a square motorcycle plate. No drag involved at all as the asre creates the drag.

Because they can't make a fast anonymous getaway which the cyclist depends on with the helmet and mirror shades helping the disguise.

Won't work except for those old fashioned upright type bicycles. Seat designs differ, meaning you can't have standardised attachment to the seat itself. So you'll have to attach it to the post and extent it to the back of the seat.
The biggest problem however is that you typically change seat position quite often, even hovering behind the seat, unless it's just a boring commute to work.

So again, a bib will address this much better and over multiple scenarios, if you really want to go the no anonymity route. Personally I find people that litter cigarette butts more troublesome and more common than cyclist

 

[Dave]

Personally I find people that litter cigarette butts more troublesome and more common than cyclist

A smoker has never killed or seriously injured a person with their cigarette butt...

 

[Kieppie]

A smoker has never killed or seriously injured a person with their cigarette butt...

Second hand smoke disagrees with you... A discarded butt is just a telltale way to highlight those that don't care about those around them, much like chucking garbage out a car's window.

As for the killing/injury part as it relates to cycling, this is negligible compared to other transportation means.

Anyway even Grant Shapps, that instigated this whole brouhaha, flipflopped on this issue.

Cyclists, welcome, you have just become the latest target in the culture wars | Peter Walker

Why would Grant Shapps have us think that number plates for bikes are a good idea? The only place that has them is North Korea, says Guardian political correspondent Peter Walker

www.theguardian.com

 

[RedViking]

Cyclists will make sure there is space on the number plate for a "at 1.5m" sticker.

 

[Dave]

Second hand smoke disagrees with you...

How much smoke comes off a cigarette butt?

 

[RedViking]

How much smoke comes off a cigarette butt?

Must be a bad habit because of wearing masks. Wonder what they gonna use next.

 

[Kieppie]

How much smoke comes off a cigarette butt?

You do realise a butt, specifically a discarded one on the street, implies smoke was expelled. If any of that was inhaled then it would be second hand smoke.
Anyway, the idea of licenses for bicycles is stupid no matter which way you slice it. Luckily the policy makers appear to know this. See the article in my post.

 

[Dave]

You do realise a butt, specifically a discarded one on the street, implies smoke was expelled. If any of that was inhaled then it would be second hand smoke.
Anyway, the idea of licenses for bicycles is stupid no matter which way you slice it. Luckily the policy makers appear to know this. See the article in my post.

You didn't make a complaint about cigarettes or smoking, you complained about discarded butts, which is what I replied to.

 

[Kieppie]

You didn't make a complaint about cigarettes or smoking, you complained about discarded butts, which is what I replied to.

You jumped to the injury part, I was replying to a post which highlighted the use of licenses to combat "miscreants". I consider those who haphazardly discard their butts as "miscreants" as well, hence the comparison. It's almost like a miniaturised shopping trolley test.
Also, butts don't magically appear, as I mentioned, so the injury aspect remains valid if in close proximity to others.

 

[nivek]

Its about time. They irritate me with their constant moaning.

Do you see me driving a BMW on the OR Tambo 21R Runway and complaining that the planes aren't giving us enough freedom and the rules favor Boeing and Airbus too much?!

What a weird metaphor.
But anyhow, how did you land yourself in such a position that you're so bothered by the constant moaning of UK cyclists?

 

[The Voice]

You do realise a butt, specifically a discarded one on the street, implies smoke was expelled. If any of that was inhaled then it would be second hand smoke.
Anyway, the idea of licenses for bicycles is stupid no matter which way you slice it. Luckily the policy makers appear to know this. See the article in my post.

Not sure complaining about second hand cigarette smoke from a few cigarettes is going to get you very far here when the fumes pumped out by the diesel and petrol engines of the cars that they were smoked in (and the butts were thrown out of) actually have a much greater impact on human health and the environment over the short and long term.

 

[Dave]

You jumped to the injury part, I was replying to a post which highlighted the use of licenses to combat "miscreants". I consider those who haphazardly discard their butts as "miscreants" as well, hence the comparison. It's almost like a miniaturised shopping trolley test.
Also, butts don't magically appear, as I mentioned, so the injury aspect remains valid if in close proximity to others.

I'm sure you know what the argument is that you're making there.

 

[Kieppie]

Not sure complaining about second hand cigarette smoke from a few cigarettes is going to get you very far here when the fumes pumped out by the diesel and petrol engines of the cars that they were smoked in (and the butts were thrown out of) actually have a much greater impact on human health and the environment over the short and long term.

I was referring more to pedestrians haphazardly chucking them. For cars I mentioned garbage being thrown out the windows.

Since you mention the environment, as per the article I linked, adding licensing for bicycles will result in a decrease in cycling and hence an increase in fossil fuel usage.
Simultaneously straining already stretched policing to enforce said licensing, which amount to a negligible casualties compared to regular motoring.

 

[Kieppie]

I'm sure you know what the argument is that you're making there.

I thought the overarching conversation was quite clear.
The main purpose was to show how short sighted trying to license bicycles actually is.

I'll repost the article incase someone missed it. It's relevant since it was Grant Shapps that precipitated the OP article, but that article only quoted his one interview not his subsequent one on TheTimes.

Cyclists, welcome, you have just become the latest target in the culture wars | Peter Walker

Why would Grant Shapps have us think that number plates for bikes are a good idea? The only place that has them is North Korea, says Guardian political correspondent Peter Walker

www.theguardian.com

 

[Dave]

I thought the overarching conversation was quite clear.
The main purpose was to show how short sighted trying to license bicycles actually is.

I'll repost the article incase someone missed it. It's relevant since it was Grant Shapps that precipitated the OP article, but that article only quoted his one interview not his subsequent one on TheTimes.

Cyclists, welcome, you have just become the latest target in the culture wars | Peter Walker

Why would Grant Shapps have us think that number plates for bikes are a good idea? The only place that has them is North Korea, says Guardian political correspondent Peter Walker

www.theguardian.com

You sound like an angry cyclist. Are you a MAMIL?

 

[Kieppie]

You sound like an angry cyclist. Are you a MAMIL?

No, why would I be? That term would probably be applicable to road cyclists only. Understandable given the amount of road rage amongst some drivers.
Not that it has any bearing on the legitimacy of the arguments in the article, but I prefer the outdoors as far away from unskilled drivers as possible.

 

[neoprema]

What a weird metaphor.
But anyhow, how did you land yourself in such a position that you're so bothered by the constant moaning of UK cyclists?

I seem to follow too many on twitter (not because they’re cyclists lol)

 

[Gyre]

Make them make vroom vroom noises when they ride too