Cyclists could be forced to get number plates and insurance under Highway Code changes (in the UK)

[mojoman]

No, why would I be? That term would probably be applicable to road cyclists only. Understandable given the amount of road rage amongst some drivers.
Not that it has any bearing on the legitimacy of the arguments in the article, but I prefer the outdoors as far away from unskilled drivers as possible.

Roadies...the worst!...Then there are the Dirt Roadies...training for podium....even more worser...

 

[surface]

ok. Unofficial offices of presidency has read the passionate debate and to pacify mybb'ers and to cool temperatures, we promise that we would engage with authorities and request for license plate & insurance only for household incomes above R500K. To make others happy, there would be additional cycle tax for 1Mil and above bracket.

 

[mojoman]

ok. Unofficial offices of presidency has read the passionate debate and to pacify mybb'ers and to cool temperatures, we promise that we would engage with authorities and request for license plate & insurance only for household incomes above R500K. To make others happy, there would be additional cycle tax for 1Mil and above bracket.

You mean Orfice of the Presidency....

 

[Major Boredom]

So who is going to fit the bill for when he falls in front of a car ?

Yes, I think all cars should have insurance as well. We have the RAF for cars and it should cover bicycles as well.

Remember RAF purpose is only to cater for injuries/death from what I understand

 

[OhYeah84]

Yes, there is no law that I have to pay his insurance. He has to first prove that it's my fault.

A cyclist vs a Ferari...who didn't look out for the road? Unless I literally ram into his car, his chances are very little of getting anyways and I doubt the insurance will persue it.

R100k damage to a Ferrari...you'd bet your bottom dollar the car owner's insurance will be pursuing this. They won't want to foot the bill.

 

[G'Wobblez]

Didn’t SA have a Bicycle license fee at some point?

 

[RandomGeek]

Only cyclists wearing too small cycling pants should pay a yearly license. The rest of us dont want to see your meat and 2 veg!

 

[Major Boredom]

Didn’t SA have a Bicycle license fee at some point?

Yup

 

[Major Boredom]

R100k damage to a Ferrari...you'd bet your bottom dollar the car owner's insurance will be pursuing this. They won't want to foot the bill.

And the way I have seen cyclists ride these day their insurance would not cover anyway, even if they had
1. Jumping stop streets
2. Ignoring red robots
3. More than 1 bike in a lane side by side
Most insurances have clauses so they will not cover you if you are not obeying the rules of the road and applying due care.
Slightly different scenario. I know someone who had a crash while under the influence. His insurance refused to cover him or the other vehicle. Ended up costing him over a half million. Other guys insurance took him to court for damages ( vehicle and medical + costs ). Same principle. Declined due to not adhering to laws while using a vehicle

 

[OhYeah84]

And the way I have seen cyclists ride these day their insurance would not cover anyway, even if they had
1. Jumping stop streets
2. Ignoring red robots
3. More than 1 bike in a lane side by side
Most insurances have clauses so they will not cover you if you are not obeying the rules of the road and applying due care.
Slightly different scenario. I know someone who had a crash while under the influence. His insurance refused to cover him or the other vehicle. Ended up costing him over a half million. Other guys insurance took him to court for damages ( vehicle and medical + costs ). Same principle. Declined due to not adhering to laws while using a vehicle

I go riding my mountain bike at times and try sticking as far to the side as possible. Some drivers are pricks and I've had to mount a kerb to stop them getting close to me.
By the same token I, as a driver, have had to slow down completely with idiots on bikes in groups cycling 2 or 3 abreast. Or had to overtake into the oncoming lane. On 1 occasion, on a 2 lane road in town, there was a group of cyclists (talking 10-15) all seemingly competing with each other. I moved into the second lane only to have to slam on anchors as some fool decided it was time to move out in front of me (in that second lane) to overtake his mates who were cycling 3 abreast. Hooted at them only to be given the finger. Other options included yanking the wheel to my car right and into a pole/over the island, or braking harder and hurting us in the car.

Idiots like this give cyclists a bad name but nothing is done about them. Wider of the Rider? Pfft...a large number don't obey the road rules.

 

[geezer]

Didn’t SA have a Bicycle license fee at some point?

 

[sefeddt]

Those claiming to revert to many years ago when bicycles had to have licenses, it worked like a fishing license, you merely walked in and bought it. On the issue of display, my car and bakkie have a plate and a license disc, same for bicycle ? What details will it have ? If my intention was to middle finger motorists and not get caught I could just make a fake plate and fit it, if stopped will I have to have ID on me to prove the plate on my bicycle is mine ?

 

[Nerfherder]

Remember RAF purpose is only to cater for injuries/death from what I understand

Yes, there is a chance of injury when a bicycle collides with a car.

 

[sefeddt]

Regards identifying the cyclist's number and reporting bad road behaviour, good luck with that. I could keep the cops busy each time a vehicle driver overtakes and turns left in front of me, ignores a side street stop sign, opens their door as I'm passing without looking, brushes close past me when overtaking etc. list goes on. I've been in 3 vehicle/bicycle accidents one ending in my getting RAF payout due motorists negligence. All reported, all should have had action taken but none was. About two years back a well know cyclist and his tandem partner were killed by a taxi driver who went through a red light. The taxi was so badly damaged it could not drive. The metro cops allowed the taxi owner to tow away the vehicle resulting in missing details and explanation. The lawyers acting on behalf of the family are struggling to get this resolved.

 

[McSack]

A smoker has never killed or seriously injured a person with their cigarette butt...

Results: Smoking is the leading cause of residential or total fire death in all eight countries with available statistics

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10938207/#:~:text=Smoking is a leading cause,child-playing fires per year.

;} never say never

 

[Nicodeamus]

A smoker has never killed or seriously injured a person with their cigarette butt...

You obviously never played barefoot as a kid.

 

[The Voice]

Those claiming to revert to many years ago when bicycles had to have licenses, it worked like a fishing license, you merely walked in and bought it. On the issue of display, my car and bakkie have a plate and a license disc, same for bicycle ? What details will it have ? If my intention was to middle finger motorists and not get caught I could just make a fake plate and fit it, if stopped will I have to have ID on me to prove the plate on my bicycle is mine ?

Come to think of it, that’s actually a great idea, considering that something like 77465 bikes were stolen in England and Wales in 2021/22. Knowing that at any given time a policeman could stop you and ask you to prove that the bike is actually yours may dissuade bike thieves from stealing so many.

 

[Dave]

You obviously never played barefoot as a kid.

I was also obviously not dropped on my head as a baby, which would be something you can't say after reading many of your posts...

 

[Kieppie]

Come to think of it, that’s actually a great idea, considering that something like 77465 bikes were stolen in England and Wales in 2021/22. Knowing that at any given time a policeman could stop you and ask you to prove that the bike is actually yours may dissuade bike thieves from stealing so many.

Sounds like a massive strain on police who'll have to cross check licenses and IDs. Thieves can just wear cycling clothes and not stand out, which has already happened here.

For those entrepreneurial individuals a simpler solution would be a short range RFID tag pair. One inside the bike and the other on the cyclist. Should the bicycle be ridden without the "key" of the cyclist the other device can act as an alarm.
Pretty sure this would be a viable business venture.

 

[sefeddt]

Come to think of it, that’s actually a great idea, considering that something like 77465 bikes were stolen in England and Wales in 2021/22. Knowing that at any given time a policeman could stop you and ask you to prove that the bike is actually yours may dissuade bike thieves from stealing so many.

No use engaging with me I'm not changing my view that it's impractical bordering on ridiculous. Speaking from someone who has been bike jacked and had 2 bikes stolen in a break in.