DA charges FF+ politician after k-word rant caught on video

Fulcrum29

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Video of Marcell Maritz was taken in 2017, not 2015 as stated by the FF+
Witnesses in the video will be submitting an affidavit with the provision that their identities be protected, says the DA’s Beyers Smit

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In a statement released, the party said they became aware of the DA’s complaint on Wednesday and said the video was taken five years ago while Maritz was still a DA councillor.

However, Smit says the time stamp on the video that was shared to the DA by a whistle-blower, clearly shows that the video was taken in 2017, whilst Maritz was the Limpopo FF+ Leader and a PR Councillor in the Mogalakwena Municipality.

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“The whistle-blowers confirmed that this is when the video was taken and that the allegations by Maritz are not true. The witnesses in the video will also be submitting an affidavit in this regard with the provision that their identities be protected. We will hand the affidavit over to police and the SAHRC,” his statement reads.

That date could have been added or changed at any time. This is nothing concrete. The DA better have their ducks in a row and why must the witnesses be anonymous?

Framing people... police state. The DA will immediately lose me as a voter the moment this turns out to be nothing more than dirty politics.

This is a more popular news publisher,

 

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I realize now how hunter must feel going through life, I don't get this reference.


Does. Makes no sense.

Maybe I'm slow today.
Since you're slow today: You're on the right trail. Four characters: Think of mentioned person in a red overall for the word, then a synonym for it. Imagine how he'd look if he tried playing James Bond for the next two digits of his code as the next two characters. If you still don't get it .... s s ssssssh - Craig is asleep ... :laugh:
 

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Since you're slow today: You're on the right trail. Four characters: Think of mentioned person in a red overall for the word, then a synonym for it. Imagine how he'd look if he tried playing James Bond for the next two digits of his code as the next two characters. If you still don't get it .... s s ssssssh - Craig is asleep ... :laugh:

@Craig's a d00s. He gets nothing.
 

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Since you're slow today: You're on the right trail. Four characters: Think of mentioned person in a red overall for the word, then a synonym for it. Imagine how he'd look if he tried playing James Bond for the next two digits of his code as the next two characters. If you still don't get it .... s s ssssssh - Craig is asleep ... :laugh:

You could've just said d o o s. But **** also isn't a racially charged word.
 

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That date could have been added or changed at any time. This is nothing concrete. The DA better have their ducks in a row and why must the witnesses be anonymous?

Framing people... police state. The DA will immediately lose me as a voter the moment this turns out to be nothing more than dirty politics.

This is a more popular news publisher,


This, 100%. And yes, if privacy means nothing anymore then the eavesdropper should absolutely not be able to remain anonymous.
 

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This, 100%. And yes, if privacy means nothing anymore then the eavesdropper should absolutely not be able to remain anonymous.
Well you can't anonymously accuse someone of a crime. The identity of minors get protected, but any adult is openly identified.
 

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This, 100%. And yes, if privacy means nothing anymore then the eavesdropper should absolutely not be able to remain anonymous.

The DA opened a case of crimen injuria, meaning that someone's dignity in that room was a wilful injured before the release of the video. This is playing with fire.
 

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The DA opened a case of crimen injuria, meaning that someone's dignity in that room was a wilful injured before the release of the video. This is playing with fire.
You a lawyer? Catzavelos was in greece. "Racism accused Adam Catzavelos is seen during his appearance at the Randburg Magistrate's Court on charges of crimen injuria. "

 

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You a lawyer? Catzavelos was in greece. "Racism accused Adam Catzavelos is seen during his appearance at the Randburg Magistrate's Court on charges of crimen injuria. "


Catzavelos published his act for the world to see.
 

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That date could have been added or changed at any time. This is nothing concrete. The DA better have their ducks in a row and why must the witnesses be anonymous?

Framing people... police state. The DA will immediately lose me as a voter the moment this turns out to be nothing more than dirty politics.

This is a more popular news publisher,

It is highly likely to be dirty politics. The DA are playing in the ANC's court with this.

Trollip though is very rich to criticise the FF+ seeing as they recruited a convicted murderer to join their party...

In May 2005, he was indicted for fraud, murder, attempted murder, kidnapping and arson at the Mthatha High Court, and was subsequently convicted. In 2013, when Helen Zille was the Democratic Alliance (DA) party leader, the DA recruited Dalindyebo to join the party, despite his conviction, and at the time he shared the stage with Zille, Mmusi Maimane and Athol Trollip. The perception exists that he was recruited on the basis that he could bring votes to the DA in the Eastern Cape.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buyelekhaya_Dalindyebo
 

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It is highly likely to be dirty politics. The DA are playing in the ANC's court with this.

Trollip though is very rich to criticise the FF+ seeing as they recruited a convicted murderer to join their party...


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buyelekhaya_Dalindyebo

This development is having me questioning the politics at play.

The DA may very well be correct that this incident happened in 2017, but they are acting reactively to how their opposition is responding.

They release the video, the FF+ then say that they will investigate but that the incident is dated 5 years ago, the DA responds by stating that it happened 2 years ago... The next day we have a released EXIF date, which can be created or altered by various means, and that their witnesses will be anonymous. The same media outlet which I quoted earlier published last night that the person who recorded it and provided the DA with the evidence needs to be protected.

https://reviewonline.co.za/319628/listen-claims-k-word-ff-leader-hot-water/

In the video*, supplied by the DA, Maritz is seen having a conversation with someone when she refers to the APK Church as the “Church without K****rs”.

*To protect the person who took the video and supplied it to the DA, Review has withheld publishing the video

And they have also published the EXIF data screenshot, but other media outlets posted the video. Maybe the Limpopo DA is driving the story through the Review Online (or Northen Media Group).

I know, according to a DA statement, that Maritz’s was under review by the DA’s Provincial Disciplinary committee in 2015. The DA doesn’t elaborate as to how she contravened their internal rules, but Maritz then promptly resigned and took up a position with the FF+. I wouldn’t be surprised that this video is archived disciplinary evidence, which wasn’t used against Maritz back then, but is now used to launch a territorial campaign against the FF+. Conspiracy theory, yes, but 5 years ago seems to be close to the date.

They also report this to be a 3-minute video but is only willing to publish the middle. The context is selectively targeted. Yes, people want to see the ‘action’, but this is targeted.

Personally I don’t care about Maritz, it is a vile woman, to quote,

https://reviewonline.co.za/202995/sy-help-graag-in-nood/

Maritz is in 2010 deur die DA en Cope genader. Dit was die begin van haar politieke loopbaan.

“Na sowat vier jaar as DA wyksraadslid het ek besef ek hoort by die Vryheidsfront Plus want ek is ‘n trotse Afrikaner. Die VF Plus se waardes is reg en die party dra die belange van die Afrikaner op die hart. Ek glo soos die VF Plus elkeen van ons het ‘n reg en ‘n plek in ons land. Apartheid was glad nie so sleg as wat vandag voorgegee word nie. Vandag seëvier korrupsie en omgekeerde Apartheid. Ek maak veral my stem dik wanneer dit kom by plaasmoorde.”

Met haar loopbaan by die regte party op dreef sal sy graag vorentoe haar plek in die Parlement wil inneem, hoewel Potties haar tuiste is. “Ek is hier gebore en getoë. Ons moet hande vat en sorg dat die dorp weer die pragtige plek word soos dit eens was. Die munisipaliteit moet in orde gebring word.”

Sy beplan om binnekort soveel moontlik dorpe in Limpopo te besoek. Haar boodskap aan die gemeenskap is: “Met God in ons lewe, wie kan teen ons wees”.

Apartheid segregated people, enabling one race as the supreme group during the time it was instituted within the Union.

My problem with this is my rights and protection as a citizen. A Constitutional Democracy isn’t a police state, and when political parties can shoot like this as with certain other recent incidents then I need to be wary about my whereabouts in this country.

The woman said what she said, in privacy, and it was leaked 5 years later according to the FF+ or 2 years later according to the DA. A person provided the video to the DA and the DA published the video, as they say. Where she was employed at the time is important, the DA directed their swing straight at the FF+. This is the typical holier than thou approach.

Gossip can land you an R 200 000 penalty and or prison sentence. It is troubling.
 

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Reading that quote it immediately becomes believable that she indeed said this.
 
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