David Kay, weapons inspector who helped disprove Iraqi WMDs, dies at 82

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David Kay, weapons inspector who helped disprove Iraqi WMDs, dies at …

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He concluded that no weapons of mass destruction existed in Iraq and that the CIA and other intelligence agencies had badly misjudged​

David A. Kay, the weapons proliferation expert who led a CIA-run operation in 2003 that concluded former Iraqi ruler Saddam Hussein had built no weapons of mass destruction, sharply undermining the chief justification for the U.S.-led invasion earlier that year, died Aug. 13 at his home in Ocean View, Del. He was 82.


The cause was cancer, said his wife, Anita Kay.
Dr. Kay, a reserved Texan with an international affairs doctorate, had an early career teaching political science before joining organizations such as UNESCO in Paris and the International Atomic Energy Agency in Vienna. In 1991, he became a household name while serving in Iraq as chief nuclear weapons inspector for the United Nations and the IAEA after the United States and its allies had liberated Kuwait from Hussein’s forces...

 

[Nicodeamus]

R.I.P.

 

[ForceFate]

RIP.


I feel Dubya should have been tried for this travesty.

 

[Ninja'd]

 

[Nicodeamus]

Blair obviously knew better..

 

[Jefferson D'Arcy]

Let's not forget Dr David Kelly who Bad Al Campbell (currently still losing his feeble mind over the outcome of 2016's democratic process) and Blair had bumped off for speaking the truth.

 

[Nicodeamus]

Thabo Mbeki to his credit reconstituted part of the team of Project Coast. They were granted access to Iraq and also found no evidence of WMDs.

South Africa had a special insight into Iraq’s potential for WMD because the apartheid government’s own biological, chemical and nuclear weapons programme in the 1980s led the countries to collaborate. The programme was abandoned after the end of white minority rule in 1994 but the expert team, known as Project Coast, was put back together by Mbeki to investigate the US and UK assertion that Saddam had WMD – the central premise for mounting an invasion.

Mbeki, who enjoyed positive relations with both Blair and Saddam, asked for the team to be granted access.

“Saddam agreed, and gave the South African team the freedom to roam unfettered throughout Iraq,” writes Matisonn, who says he drew on sources in Whitehall and the South African cabinet. “They had access to UN intelligence on possible WMD sites. The US, UK and UN were kept informed of the mission and its progress.”

Mandela was so persistent that when Bush ignored his call, he went over his head and phoned Bush's father!

Matisonn adds: “Mandela, now retired, had tried as well. On Iraq, if not other issues, Mandela and Mbeki were on the same page. Mandela phoned the White House and asked for Bush. Bush fobbed him off to [Condoleezza] Rice. Undeterred, Mandela called former President Bush Sr, and Bush Sr called his son the president to advise him to take Mandela’s call. Mandela had no impact. He was so incensed he gave an uncomfortable comment to the cameras: ‘President Bush doesn’t know how to think,’ he said with visible anger.”

 

[Glock26]

So wait....
Saddam Hussain DIDN'T use chemical weapons against his foes between 1980 and 1988, and DIDN'T use chemicals in 1988 in the Al-Anfal Campaign against his civilian Kurdish population and during a popular uprising in the south in 1991??
Those 100,000+ Iranians and others affected by something DIDN'T suffer from chemical weapons?
That's very odd.
I know the leftists and hippies like to make like Saddam was some angel targeted by the evil West, but they really need to get a clue.
Also, he had the weapons. He just didn't use them against the US. And got rid of them during inspections.
But hey...US bad, right?

Iraqi chemical weapons program - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Iraqi chemical attacks against Iran - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Nicodeamus]

So wait....
Saddam Hussain DIDN'T use chemical weapons against his foes between 1980 and 1988, and DIDN'T use chemicals in 1988 in the Al-Anfal Campaign against his civilian Kurdish population and during a popular uprising in the south in 1991??
Those 100,000+ Iranians and others affected by something DIDN'T suffer from chemical weapons?
That's very odd.
I know the leftists and hippies like to make like Saddam was some angel targeted by the evil West, but they really need to get a clue.
Also, he had the weapons. He just didn't use them against the US. And got rid of them during inspections.
But hey...US bad, right?

Iraqi chemical weapons program - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Iraqi chemical attacks against Iran - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

You forgot a tiny detail, he used those weapons after being encouraged to attack Iran by America who was happy to sell him weapons and backchannel funds to Iran through Israel (that was on diplomatic good relations with Iran at the time.

When Rumsfeld was chummy with Saddam..

US Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld’s current visit to Baghdad brings to mind his visit on another day … and another age when he and Saddam Hussein were on hand-shaking terms.

www.aljazeera.com

Then there is the tiny detail of America's diplomat April Glaspie giving this guy a diplomatic green light (probably by accident) to invade Kuwait.

Gulf War Documents: Meeting between Saddam Hussein and US Ambassador to Iraq April Glaspie - Global Research

Saddam-Glaspie meeting Transcript of Meeting Between Iraqi President, Saddam Hussein and U.S. Ambassador to Iraq, April Glaspie. – July 25, 1990 (Eight days before the August 2, 1990 Iraqi Invasion of Kuwait) (published on GR on March 5, 2012) July 25, 1990 – Presidential Palace – Baghdad U.S...

www.globalresearch.ca

Then of course the legendary statement by Madeleine Albright that the 500 000 Iraqi children who were said to die of sanctions were "worth it".

They made a "very hard choice, but the price is worth it".

 

[Glock26]

What's that got to do with whether he actually had and used chemical weapons or not?

 

[R13...]

What's that got to do with whether he actually had and used chemical weapons or not?

I don't think anyone disputes that Saddam had chemical weapons and used them in the past. Point is the WMDs that Bush used to justify the war didn't exist.

 

[Pak Fa Fui]

People believe lies, stupid people act on it

 

[Nicodeamus]

What's that got to do with whether he actually had and used chemical weapons or not?

If America suppled him with those weapons and then went on later to criticize him for those same weapons, what does that say about the war narrative?
Then just the fact that the pretext was justified and sold on the basis that he was "about to attack" using weapons that were destroyed by then.

The US destroyed Iraq and went out of it's way to rip the country apart, through war and sanctions, often using WMDs themselves like the depleted Uranium that caused an epidemic birth defects.

The entire invasion and it's pretext, starting in the first gulf war was simply criminal.

 

[Jet-Fighter7700]

well the US was defeated arguably in Afghanistan despite Zero evidence the perpetrators of 9/11 were hiding there,
and now look at Afghanistan, back where they started, only now with Shiny left behind Humvee's and Night vision goggles.

Iraq, same thing, no evidence existed, but they invaded anyway, because oil and Saddam threatened allies.
what happened eventually? Iraq is a mess now,

Somalia, Vietnam, Panama and the list goes on and on.

at this point America starts wars, and screws up later on, when it comes time to actually build a sustainable functioning country.

but then again, when half of your GDP is built on sustaining an army you need to create trouble to start wars,
so you can justify all of that spending.

maybe eventually they will invade South africa,

 

[JuliusSeizure]

Thabo Mbeki to his credit reconstituted part of the team of Project Coast. They were granted access to Iraq and also found no evidence of WMDs.



Mandela was so persistent that when Bush ignored his call, he went over his head and phoned Bush's father!

South Africa's foreign policy under the ANC to be fair has been more rational than most of the world.

 

[JuliusSeizure]

maybe eventually they will invade South africa,

The reasons for invasion are often based upon access to resources with "giving people freedom" being a PR reason. They won't invade SA, they have no reason to and we are pretty open with them.

 

[saturnz]

same playbook over and over and people still swallow it

 

[Harold_Crick]

What's that got to do with whether he actually had and used chemical weapons or not?

He had them and had used them in the past, however, they were no longer producing them nor were they in possession of any significant stockpiles (if any at all) when they were invaded. Their facilities had long been destroyed/mothballed.

Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld had, for years, been corrupting and subverting US intelligence, feeding bogus intel to the presidency. Rumsfeld had set-up a shadow intel network within the Pentagon and Cheney had bypassed channels within the CIA, diverting all intel through his office, where he would then feed in his own falsified intel while suppressing any accurate intel that contradicted fabricated WMDs in Iraq.

Bush was either the mastermind behind all of this or he was a convenient fool, being used to serve Cheney's agenda, who some believe was the puppet-master.

 

[Jet-Fighter7700]

The reasons for invasion are often based upon access to resources with "giving people freedom" being a PR reason. They won't invade SA, they have no reason to and we are pretty open with them.

thats what you think, after all iraq was a US ally at one point, same with Vietnam and other places,

the script could flip at any time, especially if the right circumstances present itself.
China getting greedy, REE found in abundance, crazy mash up of Malema,Zuma as the Tin pot dictator in Charge.


maybe we will have Humvees driving down the N3 yet in our lifetimes.

 

[Nicodeamus]

He had them and had used them in the past, however, they were no longer producing them nor were they in possession of any significant stockpiles (if any at all) when they were invaded. Their facilities had long been destroyed/mothballed.

Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld had, for years, been corrupting and subverting US intelligence, feeding bogus intel to the presidency. Rumsfeld had set-up a shadow intel network within the Pentagon and Cheney had bypassed channels within the CIA, diverting all intel through his office, where he would then feed in his own falsified intel while suppressing any accurate intel that contradicted fabricated WMDs in Iraq.

Bush was either the mastermind behind all of this or he was a convenient fool, being used to serve Cheney's agenda, who some believe was the puppet-master.

He was more of a tool, when Bush came into power he had zero foreign policy experience, he only served as an executive for a Texas oil company and relied mostly on the advice of Condoleezza Rice. Cheney, Rumsfeld and all the other nutcases were in one way or another linked to the Project for the New American century and would go out of their way to try and chase down the idiotic idea.

Their attitude was best summed up by this gem of a quote.

Reality-based community - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

'That's not the way the world really works anymore,' he continued. 'We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality—judiciously, as you will—we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors...and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do'.[2]

''We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality."

www.theatlantic.com