Dawie Roodt argues striking Eskom workers already paid far too much

[Jan]

Striking Eskom workers are paid far too much — Economist

Eskom workers participating in a wage-related strike that has plunged South Africa into stage 6 load-shedding are already getting paid too much. Efficient Group chief economist Dawie Roodt has said.

Roodt was speaking to Sunday newspaper Rapport regarding the striking workers' complaints about being paid too little.

 

[Mekon]

And again this is all on the virus that is our current government. They allowed all this shyt to happen because they think they intelligent. More like the IQ of a gnat.

 

[hj007]

What does this refer to-
"He also argued that Eskom workers should be happy with lower salaries than those in the private industry because they enjoyed job guarantees that non-government employees did not."

Are eskom workers unfireable? Is that because of Gov since its an SOE or unions? Why can you not fire a government employee?

Friends that work at other SOEs didnt get fired, they just didnt get paid instead...

 

[chrisc]

Its called GREED, nothing more
Perhaps greed and entitlement

 

[TheChamp]

What does this refer to-
"He also argued that Eskom workers should be happy with lower salaries than those in the private industry because they enjoyed job guarantees that non-government employees did not."

Are eskom workers unfireable? Is that because of Gov since its an SOE or unions? Why can you not fire a government employee?

Friends that work at other SOEs didnt get fired, they just didnt get paid instead...

Of course Eskom workers can be fired, Even government workers can be.

Which SOEs were your friends not fired from? And yes, not getting paid is one of the sanctions that can be given, not because it's not possible to fire the employee.

 

[shearder]

July 2018 Saudia Arabia invested R133Bn in Eskom, July 2018 China ALSO invest R33Bn in Eskom.
29th November 2018 Eskom asked for R5Bn bailout!!!
So can ramapoes, rhadebe and motsepe, the 3 thugs, please tell south africa where the money went seeing as the 3 of them arranged the loans from the Chinese and Arabs....
We need eskom shut down. I feel F.ALL for load shedding.

 

[wingnut771]

July 2018 Saudia Arabia invested R133Bn in Eskom, July 2018 China ALSO invest R33Bn in Eskom.
29th November 2018 Eskom asked for R5Bn bailout!!!
So can ramapoes, rhadebe and motsepe, the 3 thugs, please tell south africa where the money went seeing as the 3 of them arranged the loans from the Chinese and Arabs....
We need eskom shut down. I feel F.ALL for load shedding.

"Invested"

 

[RVQ]

Yet another reason on the pile for South Africa to reduce its exposure in Eskom by moving to IPPs. The distributed smaller scale IPPs are clearly a benefit to the nation as it reduces the risk of Eskom Unions holding the nation to randsom.

Hopefully the use this illegal strike as an opportunity to get rid of the excess and especially useless staff in Eskom

 

[Zyzzyva]

What does this refer to-
"He also argued that Eskom workers should be happy with lower salaries than those in the private industry because they enjoyed job guarantees that non-government employees did not."

Are eskom workers unfireable? Is that because of Gov since its an SOE or unions? Why can you not fire a government employee?

Friends that work at other SOEs didnt get fired, they just didnt get paid instead...

It's the unholy alliance of the unions and the ANC.

 

[r00igev@@r]

We should get the Chinese government to come and give our bunch some pointers.

 

[wingnut771]

We should get the Chinese government to come and give our bunch some pointers.

Why would that work? Our government has been receiving pointers since 1994.

 

[r00igev@@r]

Why would that work? Our government has been receiving pointers since 1994.

They have been asleep in class especially the bit about when the bunch in the sweatshops complain.

 

[Zyzzyva]

We should get the Chinese government to come and give our bunch some pointers.

We should let them in and once they have built up the country we can chase them away and call them colonizers.

 

[mypetcow]

R14,000-19,000 for general workers working on national infrastructure. Don’t make me laugh at how embarrassingly low this is. Don’t know what this economist think they should be paid but clearly he’s more on the side of minimum wage.

Just goes to show you how out of touch he is. Just because everyone in SA is being short changed in their employment situation doesn’t justify paying people working at national infrastructure sites a pittance. I understand why the strike happened legal or not.

R20,000-25,000 would be more realistic for a general worker position to ensure the employees are more happy to be at work and to do a good job.

Think of it this way. How well would you do your job if you get a kick in the teeth every day you go to work and every payday?

 

[Aghori]

Why would that work? Our government has been receiving pointers since 1994.

Gov/bosses actually listen to and entertain shyte like the below. Seen it happen at so many places and I was astounded that the "bosses" actually took it into account when handing out raises:

 

[R13...]

Gov/bosses actually listen to and entertain shyte like the below. Seen it happen at so many places and I was astounded that the "bosses" actually took it into account when handing out raises:


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Sounds like nonsense. How do you put a demand like that in a bargaining council based system?

 

[wingnut771]

R14,000-19,000 for general workers working on national infrastructure. Don’t make me laugh at how embarrassingly low this is. Don’t know what this economist think they should be paid but clearly he’s more on the side of minimum wage.

Just goes to show you how out of touch he is. Just because everyone in SA is being short changed in their employment situation doesn’t justify paying people working at national infrastructure sites a pittance. I understand why the strike happened legal or not.

R20,000-25,000 would be more realistic for a general worker position to ensure the employees are more happy to be at work and to do a good job.

Think of it this way. How well would you do your job if you get a kick in the teeth every day you go to work and every payday?

You completely ignore the fact that we need these high salaries to pay for the exploding cost of living because of government failure. Inflation is the problem.

 

[3WA]

R14,000-19,000 for general workers working on national infrastructure. Don’t make me laugh at how embarrassingly low this is. Don’t know what this economist think they should be paid but clearly he’s more on the side of minimum wage.

Just goes to show you how out of touch he is. Just because everyone in SA is being short changed in their employment situation doesn’t justify paying people working at national infrastructure sites a pittance. I understand why the strike happened legal or not.

R20,000-25,000 would be more realistic for a general worker position to ensure the employees are more happy to be at work and to do a good job.

Think of it this way. How well would you do your job if you get a kick in the teeth every day you go to work and every payday?

I get your point, but the counterargument is that you can’t have both of these things:

1.) High pay
2.) An inflated workforce

And the unions want both of those things together. So if workers are part of these unions, they should live with lower wages in exchange for the security of knowing the union won’t allow retrenchments.

 

[mypetcow]

You completely ignore the fact that we need these high salaries to pay for the exploding cost of living because of government failure. Inflation is the problem.

Yes completely true. The workers need to be paid regardless. And inflation adjusted as well. Especially as they work on national infrastructure sites.

 

[Mike Hoxbig]

What does this refer to-
"He also argued that Eskom workers should be happy with lower salaries than those in the private industry because they enjoyed job guarantees that non-government employees did not."

Are eskom workers unfireable? Is that because of Gov since its an SOE or unions? Why can you not fire a government employee?

Friends that work at other SOEs didnt get fired, they just didnt get paid instead...

They can be fired, but they won't be.

Illegal strikes, intimidation and treason are instead rewarded with inflation+ increases...