Dawie Roodt argues striking Eskom workers already paid far too much

mypetcow

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You do know they get paid lunch/food at Eskom. So 19k and you don't have to buy food...

Oh my goodness, a subsidised canteen at work where employees pay less for food than non-employees (i.e. contractors). The audacity! Excuse the sarcasm.
Welcome to the world of what employees can expect from a decent employer.

From your link:
Food subsidies by the company range from between 50% to 80% of a meal’s cost, and are a “long-standing tradition” at Eskom.
 

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But without the government, how would people bring food to work to eat?
I'm sorry the place you work at doesn't offer this to you and your fellow colleagues...perhaps you should bring it up in the next company meeting. It's a tax-deductable expense so your financial director should be jumping for joy....you know...to reduce the tax bill to SARS ;)
 

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I have spent a few years at Eskom. You won't find a lazier more pampered bunch of people anywhere in South Africa. This is true from the lowest to the highest rank.

R14 000 per month for a general worker is a ridiculous salary. R4000 - R5000 is more realistic - especially since there are literally hundreds of thousands of people in South Africa who would be absolutely satisfied to at least earn a few rand a month. It should be a question of supply and demand and nothing else.
 

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Oh my goodness, a subsidised canteen at work where employees pay less for food than non-employees (i.e. contractors). The audacity! Excuse the sarcasm.
Welcome to the world of what employees can expect from a decent employer.

From your link:
You don't see the issue with the company (who can't keep the lights on, a monopoly) being in debt, but yet pay for overstaffed workforce food ?

edit: You think Eskom will still sub food when they have some real competition and nobody "buys" their power ?
 

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I'm sorry the place you work at doesn't offer this to you and your fellow colleagues...perhaps you should bring it up in the next company meeting. It's a tax-deductable expense so your financial director should be jumping for joy....you know...to reduce the tax bill to SARS ;)
They do actually, it is like a once a week thing. More for cross dept socialising than anything. They don't do it for the tax reasons.

But then again, the company I work for doesn't require monthly bailouts from the taxpayer, whilst simultaneously having a legal monopoly preventing anyone from competing.
 

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They do actually, it is like a once a week thing. More for cross dept socialising than anything. They don't do it for the tax reasons.

But then again, the company I work for doesn't require monthly bailouts from the taxpayer, whilst simultaneously having a legal monopoly preventing anyone from competing.
It's lekker food when us have no choice to pay Eskom's monopoly. I would have 0 issue if there was competition and Eskom made a profit and kept the lights on , without tax payers bailing them out.
 

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But who are you comparing them with? They might not be educated but they are still working in a specialized environment, they might not be educated but they are still skilled and properly trained in what they do, you can't exactly compare them to a shelf packer at PnP.
Of course not, here's a significant amount less breakdowns & sabotage at PnP compared to Eskom, not to mention the price of their brooms.. :eek:
 

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But who are you comparing them with? They might not be educated but they are still working in a specialized environment, they might not be educated but they are still skilled and properly trained in what they do, you can't exactly compare them to a shelf packer at PnP.
Lol.

Pretty much everyone cites the main problem at Eskom being the lack of skilled staff.

The minister said that a lack of engineering and technical skills and experience in Eskom remains a significant challenge. “These are pre-requisites for a major industrial operation like Eskom.”
https://businesstech.co.za/news/energy/588556/eskom-lacks-engineering-and-technical-skills-gordhan/#:~:text=The minister said that a lack of engineering and technical,of Learning to upgrade skills.


But at the same time, they want to fire people based on their skin colour for DIVERSITY.
According to Piet le Roux, head of the Solidarity Research Institute, Eskom’s statements present three possibilities. “First, Eskom might have now decided against the employment equity plan it proposed to unions, but the utility should then state so clearly and publicly. Second, the possibility exists that Eskom plans to lower the percentage of white employees to the target of 10,8% without sacking white employees simply by employing additional black employees. However, for this to work Eskom would have to increase its total workforce by 28 600, or 68%, from 42 200 to 70 800. Third, it is possible that Eskom denies publicly, but secretly still hopes to shed up to 3 400 white employees to reach its national racial demographic target for 2020,” Le Roux said.

https://solidariteit.co.za/en/eskom...ees-will-be-reduced-the-only-question-is-how/

Eskom is the facing the result of stupid policies, which is why they will never be able to fix the problem. If Andre Du Ruyter had any balls he would tell the minster publicly that either he gets his way with a merit based hiring strategy, and a merit based review of all contractors, or he goes.

Eskom cannot be fixed with the current framework of policy.
 

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Lol.

Pretty much everyone cites the main problem at Eskom being the lack of skilled staff.


https://businesstech.co.za/news/energy/588556/eskom-lacks-engineering-and-technical-skills-gordhan/#:~:text=The minister said that a lack of engineering and technical,of Learning to upgrade skills.


But at the same time, they want to fire people based on their skin colour for DIVERSITY.


https://solidariteit.co.za/en/eskom...ees-will-be-reduced-the-only-question-is-how/

Eskom is the facing the result of stupid policies, which is why they will never be able to fix the problem. If Andre Du Ruyter had any balls he would tell the minster publicly that either he gets his way with a merit based hiring strategy, and a merit based review of all contractors, or he goes.

Eskom cannot be fixed with the current framework of policy.

government would rather see SA in the dark than actually allow ADR to implement a fix for Eskom.
 
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