De Ruyter and Mantashe at war

[Peon]

Good.........Mantashe is a goon that is only there because of cadre deployment. He and others probably have vested interests in the coal mines and contracts that supply Eskom.

I think he is being squeezed in that if he doesnt protect coal then beans will be spilled on his involvement in shady deals.

 

[The Trutherizer]

Most of the biggest fossil fuel producing countries in the world are also heavily invested and investing in renewable energy.

USA
UAE
China
Australia
EU

Russia is of course being Russia.



Why?
Because they know. They understand.
That they have to transition, it cannot be stopped (because it is in fact better), and a full transition will be a massive benefit to every country that achieves it.
That, if they don't, first the client nations for fossil fuels will dry up, and then local demand will evaporate as their local industry naturally gravitates towards the cheapest energy sources. And any investment in fossil fuels will be left hanging high and dry.
That there is the potential for never before seen global stability and prosperity in a world powered by renewable energy.

Every single renewable power installation in the world (at home, private or public) is a nail in the coffin of the global fossil fuel industry.
Mantashe is probably just to stupid to notice that, already as we speak, the wealthy nations are mostly trying to figure out how to effectively wield 3 hammers per person and lug around bigger sacks of nails.

Mantashe's way will see SA's fossil fuel industry bloated and stranded like a beached whale eventually. A rotting headache.
Another in a loooong line of near tragic economic and political faux pass by him and his cadres.

Remember what happened over the last 15 years? 15 years ago it was broadly claimed that we will never be able to function without coal. Even renewable power pundits were critical of the odds. Today country after country is seeing their last coal plants shuttered or entirely demolished.

That's South Australia's last coal plant being demolished. This under a conservative government that famously were brandishing coal in their parliament a few years back, pushing coal as hard as they could.
Remember this?

That was just 4 years ago. Morrison's party in the meantime won South Austalia, and the coal power industry there still died. As we speak even the Murdoch media empire in Australia is warming up to renewable power. And South Australia has the cheapest electricity in the nation.

 

[j4ck455]

While South Africa’s public enterprises minister, environmental affairs minister, and deputy finance minister attended the meeting, Mantashe skipped it.

Mantashe said that talking about debt relief and financing was “above his paygrade” in response to questions on why he didn’t attend.

What Mantashe is actually saying is that he does not have support within cabinet, and that his continued existence in a ministerial position is probably coming to an end, he is just hastening his own demise (which is a good thing).

 

[eye_suc]

Gwede is chomping at the bit for more expensive coal plants. Probably easier for them to loot and sabotage.

 

[The Trutherizer]

What Mantashe is actually saying is that he does not have support within cabinet, and that his continued existence in a ministerial position is probably coming to an end, he is just hastening his own demise (which is a good thing).

What Mantashe is actually saying is that the COSATU allies of the SACP, as well as the patronage network he finds himself in are scared that everything they've arranged for their benefit will be in jeopardy if a transition occurs.

 

[lkswan747]

#Looting!

 

[mojoman]

Lol..is the fat little dwarf in any condition to

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Gwede is chomping at the bit for more expensive coal plants. Probably easier for them to loot and sabotage.

Idiot reminds me of Dozy....

 

[Swa]

As much as we want to we can't go full green. Our best option is to supplement while keeping what we have functioning as best it can while not building more as we saw what a disaster that was under ANC. Those billions are also not money but loans. If rich countries after using coal and oil to build their economies want poor countries to go renewables they should fund it and we should push for as much from them as we can get or it's no deal. Renewables are also not "green", that's not their purpose.

 

[StefanB7]

He and his buddies won't get those lucrative contracts anymore

 

[RVFmal]

Who is willing to wager that once Eskom is moved to the Mineral Resources and Energy Department, de Ruyter will be toast?

 

[TheChamp]

Who is willing to wager that once Eskom is moved to the Mineral Resources and Energy Department, de Ruyter will be toast?

Before we commence with the wagers, what does him being toast mean exactly?

 

[username and 23 others]

De Ruyter and Mantashe at war: Cannon fodder and collateral damage is the whole of ZA. As if giving power to neighbouring countries is not already enough, we must deal with this faeces.

You are fokken public servants. Serve for a change.

 

[Petec]

Lol that's compete BS. No way eskom pollutes more than China.

Actually, Eskom is one of the worlds highest producers of Sulphur Dioxide.

 

[grok]

De Ruyter and Mantashe at war: Cannon fodder and collateral damage is the whole of ZA. As if giving power to neighbouring countries is not already enough, we must deal with this faeces.

You are fokken public servants. Serve for a change.

You don't seem to understand commie power structures at all..

 

[newklear]

I think he is being squeezed in that if he doesnt protect coal then beans will be spilled on his involvement in shady deals.

Spot on. Was in discussion with an acquaintance last week, he has a company with 1 slot transporting D1 grade coal from X to Y.

During the trip, the train is being stopped and coal is being swopped out. When the coal arrives at Y destination, the coal is of D3 grade. He is severely penalised due to this and says he cannot continue, as at this stage the penalities outweigh his profit margins. He mentioned, that he is intentionally sabotaged so one of the other cronies will take the slot. When I asked how he initially managed to acquire a slot, he just said he had to pay the african fine along the chain of command to you know who! Pigs at the trough fighting over the remaining scraps!

 

[TheChamp]

Spot on. Was in discussion with an acquaintance last week, he has a company with 1 slot transporting D1 grade coal from X to Y.

During the trip, the train is being stopped and coal is being swopped out. When the coal arrives at Y destination, the coal is of D3 grade. He is severely penalised due to this and says he cannot continue, as at this stage the penalities outweigh his profit margins. He mentioned, that he is intentionally sabotaged so one of the other cronies will take the slot. When I asked how he initially managed to acquire a slot, he just said he had to pay the african fine along the chain of command to you know who! Pigs at the trough fighting over the remaining scraps!

So in short your acquaintance is corrupt, the corruption has worked well for him in the past but he can no longer sustain it?

 

[uchoose]

Yet how often are the wind farms outside of Jeffrey's and St Francis standing still...

I live here, not often.

 

[Pudding McTwinkle]

I live here, not often.

Okay.

 

[newklear]

So in short your acquaintance is corrupt, the corruption has worked well for him in the past but he can no longer sustain it?

Yes of course, that is why my statement was in straightforward, easy to understand English words(instead of Changana) so you can get the jist of it.

The point being, as a contributing factor to one of many Eskom's issues, it appears there are those that are hustling for these slot allocations, not only paying bribes but also sabotaging one another to get in on the gravy at the detriment of South Africa.

Granted there is corruption across the globe with varied levels, it's a case of sustainable/manageable corruption vs unsustainable/unmanageable corruption. As the results speak for themselves, we cannot sustain.

Our esteemed leaders are setting the tone for this behaviour pattern and now understand why the hard push for coal.

 

[wingnut771]

We just built 2 new coal plants. Our entire fleet is coal. Get what we have working before doing radical shifts away from it.

We are not bordering France or some other nuclear power nation that can help us out if there's no wind.

That will never happen.