Death Penalty. Yay or nay?

[Riq]

The number of murders and rapes in South Africa is digusting. Would introducing the death penalty be good for South Africa? Is is just barbaric?

Personally i think it should be introduced. At the moment so many innocent people are dying already! Why not get rid of the guilty people and scare others into not commiting crimes? There wont be as much over crowding in prisons as well!

The law is flawed and there is a chance that innocent people would be put to death. Look at this way, in 5 years, even if 10 innocent people are wrongly accused and put to death. It might save hundreds!? Shouldn't we be looking at the greater good?

 

[spiderz]

1. Bring the death penilty back.
Crime must not pay!
2. Give more people firearms (legal firearms)
Makes the criminals working enviroment a bit more dangerous.

 

[Bcm]

Look at this way, in 5 years, even if 10 innocent people are wrongly accused and put to death. It might save hundreds!? Shouldn't we be looking at the greater good?

Start with yourself, your family and friends and lets see how quickly your opinion changes...

nobody has the right to decide if somebody lives or dies.

 

[spiderz]

nobody has the right to decide if somebody lives or dies.

Currenty the criminals think they have the right. The law is in their hands.

PS. Criminals anyway have more rights that the average citizen. Our juducisal system is flawed.
"According to the SA Law Commission’s report, the percentage of cases reported resulting in convictions is as follows:
Murder: 10.6%
Rape 6.6%
Robbery with aggravating circumstances 3%.
http://www.iss.co.za/CJM/pdf/salcrep.pdf"

 

[Omac]

Bring it back.

 

[Riq]

Start with yourself, your family and friends and lets see how quickly your opinion changes...

Of course my opinion would change if that were the case. Wouldnt your opinion change if some1 you loved got killed and the killer got bail R1000?

nobody has the right to decide if somebody lives or dies.

tell that to the murders.

 

[kingrob]

If the death penalty is brought back, there would be no-one left to vote for the ANC.

 

[stix]

Nay


Is that KingKnob ?

 

[simple_simon]

the death penalty won't be a deterent.

criminals commit crime because they think they are going to get away with it? no law is a deterent.....its just a realisation of consequence after the event has occured, hence the death penalty won't change the current situation.

 

[nthdimension]

Why not get rid of the guilty people and scare others into not commiting crimes? There wont be as much over crowding in prisons as well!

The law is flawed and there is a chance that innocent people would be put to death. Look at this way, in 5 years, even if 10 innocent people are wrongly accused and put to death. It might save hundreds!? Shouldn't we be looking at the greater good?

As long as you're prepared to be put to death as one the culprits responsible for those innocent people being being killed by the state. For good measure we should execute at least 5 and probably more like 10 of those in favour of having the death penalty for each person wrongfully executed. Names of supporters can be pulled out of a hat and those chosen will get executed without recourse. Naturally all their assets - money, property, life insurance, everything - will be handed over to the family of the person wrongfully executed. If they have no family the state will take the money and divide it amongst charities.

The death penalty is not a deterrent. It is merely a matter of revenge. There is nothing wrong with that, and I will be willing to back its re-introduction when our police and courts are infallible.

We only have to look to the US to see a situation where numerous people have been wrongfully executed, and more will be still. People are executed based on circumstantial evidence, unreliable eyewitness testimony and forensics that have never been demonstrated to even be reliable, such as fingerprint matching. And of course your financial and social status is a deciding factor.

 

[spiderz]

the death penalty won't be a deterent.

criminals commit crime because they think they are going to get away with it? no law is a deterent.....its just a realisation of consequence after the event has occured, hence the death penalty won't change the current situation.

But at least their is a consequence to think about...uummm, sorry criminals don't think.

 

[ubberfunk]

1)the death penalty will never be brought back
2)law should be taken into our own hands...WHY you ask,take a good look around you! do you think that person who is going to rape,steal,murder or hijack you is going care what u think??

this country is dying slowly!!

thats my 2 cents,please dont spam or flame me.

 

[Pitbull]

The number of murders and rapes in South Africa is digusting. Would introducing the death penalty be good for South Africa? Is is just barbaric?

Personally i think it should be introduced. At the moment so many innocent people are dying already! Why not get rid of the guilty people and scare others into not commiting crimes? There wont be as much over crowding in prisons as well!

The law is flawed and there is a chance that innocent people would be put to death. Look at this way, in 5 years, even if 10 innocent people are wrongly accused and put to death. It might save hundreds!? Shouldn't we be looking at the greater good?

1.Bring back the death penalty
2. Make millitary service compalsery for first two years after schol.

reason for #2:

Most of these hideous acts are done by Youths between 18 - 24.
I promise you after 2 years of service they'll never go that route......

 

[Riq]

As long as you're prepared to be put to death as one the culprits responsible for those innocent people being being killed by the state. For good measure we should execute at least 5 and probably more like 10 of those in favour of having the death penalty for each person wrongfully executed. Names of supporters can be pulled out of a hat and those chosen will get executed without recourse. Naturally all their assets - money, property, life insurance, everything - will be handed over to the family of the person wrongfully executed. If they have no family the state will take the money and divide it amongst charities.

The death penalty is not a deterrent. It is merely a matter of revenge. There is nothing wrong with that, and I will be willing to back its re-introduction when our police and courts are infallible.

We only have to look to the US to see a situation where numerous people have been wrongfully executed, and more will be still. People are executed based on circumstantial evidence, unreliable eyewitness testimony and forensics that have never been demonstrated to even be reliable, such as fingerprint matching. And of course your financial and social status is a deciding factor.

Of course it's a deterent! Criminals don't fear prison! 1. They know they'll be let out soon for some reason or another and 2. prison is probably a better life that they're living at the moment.

Death is the only language they speak! There's probably so many people willing to die (suicidal or willing to die for a cause). The goverment can change the law for those special cases. And get people to believe that those people were convicted criminals and execute them.

Criminals in South Africa need to learn what fear is. They don't understand morals/humanity/self-respect/etc. South Africa is a great place and I don't want to have to leave because it's just not safe.

 

[chiskop]

Interesting suggestion, nthdimension.

FWIW, by putting to death those that (we believe) have wronged us, we are no better or different to them.

 

[GavinMannion]

If the death penalty is brought back, there would be no-one left to vote for the ANC.

Just a bit of info here. The ANC never stopped the Death penalty or even asked for it to be revoked. The death penalty was removed due to a criminal winning a case stating that the Death penality is against his human rights. The only way to get the death penalty back is to have the constitution changed through a referendum.

So many people blame the anc when they had nothing to do with it.

I would back the death penalty personally, for the innocents who end up wrongly executed... where there is smoke there is fire. I don't believe anyone who was completetly innocent has been executed.

 

[simple_simon]

you do not commit a crime knowing you are going to be caught...you do it because you truely feel that you will get away with it. hence the death penalty or any other penalty are not really deterents. The consequences might briefly cross your mind, but remember that you feel that you are going to get away with it, so it overides that thought.

doesn't anyone watch csi for sh!ts sake

 

[JStrike]

I would be for it as long as we could be 100% confident in our judicial system. Unfortunatly, there is not a single judicial system in the world that manages that.

It is a lot easier to let an innocent person out of prison after 5 years with an apology than to bring them back to life

 

[Riq]

1.Bring back the death penalty
2. Make millitary service compalsery for first two years after schol.

reason for #2:

Most of these hideous acts are done by Youths between 18 - 24.
I promise you after 2 years of service they'll never go that route......

That's a good idea, except that it's two years of kid's lives "lost". When they come back, most of them wont want to study. So maybe if they say that kids who aren't able to study must go the military?

 

[Omac]

you do not commit a crime knowing you are going to be caught...you do it because you truely feel that you will get away with it. hence the death penalty or any other penalty are not really deterents. The consequences might briefly cross your mind, but remember that you feel that you are going to get away with it, so it overides that thought.

Bllsht. There are many reasons for commiting a crimes. Getting away with it is not a reason for comitting the crime.

doesn't anyone watch csi for sh!ts sake

Did you really ask this