Decent Coffee

Daruk

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So I thought I'd start a thread, now that I've got a semi-decent espresso machine, on decent Coffee.
I've had it just over a day and only used it for today and basically went through 250gm bag of coffee to dial the grinder and tamper process in and came to the conclusion that it doesn't matter how well your technique or the grind if the coffee isn't seriously fresh. It's incredible just how quickly coffee can go stale and how shop bought coffee is almost always going to be iffy at best.

So the question is, where do you get your coffee and does your fav brand have a roasting date on it?

I tried Woollies today not expecting fireworks, so I wasn't disappointed when the results were suboptimum... thin crema and it was nearly impossible to get the pressure to a reasonable point for extraction, even with a fine grind and hard tamper. I'm convinced it's down to shop bought beans. I'm going to try a local roastery next and see if I can get roasting dates on their stuff to confirm freshness...
Alternatively I'm looking at roasting myself.

Thoughts?
 

MightyQuin

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So I thought I'd start a thread, now that I've got a semi-decent espresso machine, on decent Coffee.
I've had it just over a day and only used it for today and basically went through 250gm bag of coffee to dial the grinder and tamper process in and came to the conclusion that it doesn't matter how well your technique or the grind if the coffee isn't seriously fresh. It's incredible just how quickly coffee can go stale and how shop bought coffee is almost always going to be iffy at best.

So the question is, where do you get your coffee and does your fav brand have a roasting date on it?

I tried Woollies today not expecting fireworks, so I wasn't disappointed when the results were suboptimum... thin crema and it was nearly impossible to get the pressure to a reasonable point for extraction, even with a fine grind and hard tamper. I'm convinced it's down to shop bought beans. I'm going to try a local roastery next and see if I can get roasting dates on their stuff to confirm freshness...
Alternatively I'm looking at roasting myself.

Thoughts?
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Daruk

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I'd take chrisc's stories with a pinch of salt. If something happened, it happened to chrisc

#chisc fake news.

I buy WW's medium espresso beans, and they're actually good... The only good supermarket beans IMO.

Otherwise it's Kamili roasted beans or Origin.
Yeah, my first experience with Woollies was not good - the beans were stale and just not producing much crema. I'll take a look at Kamili.
 

backstreetboy

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I'd take chrisc's stories with a pinch of salt. If something happened, it happened to chrisc

#chisc fake news.
Probably a bag of Woollies beans that wrecked my machine as well. I like the Checkers foreign ground range more.
 
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ChilliPepper

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Cape Town - Village Roast in Noordhoek
Joburg - 4th Ave in Parkhurst, Illovo etc.
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Snyper564

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You see now I get woollies beans straight at their Tribeca roaster in centurion literally within days of their roasting and my oh my that and the Tribeca beans are amazing!
 

enieuwoudt

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I`ve got both a nespresso and a dolce gusto machine. You serious coffee lovers would probably disapprove, but I enjoy the dolce gusto a little bit more.... it`s cuppachino tastes a little like wimpy coffee, which I view as the ultimate coffee, the others taste a little too serious.
 

DrJohnZoidberg

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To get a good grind you need a good grinder. I've bought a cheap grinder and then a slightly less cheap one and both are useless but I don't really want to spend the kind of money for a good one so now I just go to the local coffee shop (Peacock) and get 250g of my choice and they grind it for me and get the perfect grind each time.
 

ekske1

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To get a good grind you need a good grinder. I've bought a cheap grinder and then a slightly less cheap one and both are useless but I don't really want to spend the kind of money for a good one so now I just go to the local coffee shop (Peacock) and get 250g of my choice and they grind it for me and get the perfect grind each time.
Pretty much and expect to pay-up; same for a decent espresso machine. Of course a good grinder isn't something like this :ROFL::ROFL:

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You don't want blades or pestle and mortar but a stepless conical burr grinder.
 
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