Dell is the most trusted laptop brand in South Africa’s business market

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Dell beats HP and Apple in the South African business market

MyBroadband’s business technology survey revealed that Dell is the most trusted laptop brand in South Africa’s business market, followed by HP, Apple, and Lenovo.

The survey was completed by 783 respondents. Only responses from executives and managers who decide which ICT products their companies buy were considered.
 
Kosmik said:
So are Dells. Competing too much with Apple Formfactor and insufficient cooling on XPS laptops.
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I'm on my second XPS now. Got my first in 2018.

Yes, they suck. Cooling issues, battery issues. But they're powerful for the size and get the job done.

When the Apple M1 came out I was like "that's what I really want".
 
Dylan_G said:
I'm on my second XPS now. Got my first in 2018.

Yes, they suck. Cooling issues, battery issues. But they're powerful for the size and get the job done.

When the Apple M1 came out I was like "that's what I really want".
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I agree but my favorite laptop wasnt even a business one back in the day. Had a HP Envy and damn that thing was fast. Supposedly consumer grade desktop replacement but it had the same kit as the "workstation" version just not the main business support etc, although you could but a bolt on.
 
Kosmik said:
So are Dells. Competing too much with Apple Formfactor and insufficient cooling on XPS laptops.
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When I still had an XPS that thing nearly set me alight multiple times.

Not only was the cooling designed by an idiot but it also had a bug where it would randomly wake up in my backpack and attempt to set fire to my surroundings.
 
They are all the same. It's not like Dell or HP make memory chips or CPU's
 
Rickster said:
HP these days is ass, that's why.
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Ass seriously?

What crap HP are you buying?

Elitebooks, Zbooks or what?

I use an HP Elitebook 860 G10, and it works well, sure I use Dell Monitors (P series), but its pretty good.

For home I use a Zbook Fury.

With HP its all about what you are willing to spend money on, buy cheap and get cheap.

I find Apple extremely overpriced however. Especially in SA and support....well it totally lacking. I would only buy from Digicape.
 
Harmonic said:
When I still had an XPS that thing nearly set me alight multiple times.

Not only was the cooling designed by an idiot but it also had a bug where it would randomly wake up in my backpack and attempt to set fire to my surroundings.
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I bet you havent seen a trackpad pop up yet?

Yip the issue with XPS, is their battery sits below their trackpads, so what happens, as the battery swells, it pops the trackpad also off, which means you have to replace the battery and trackpad too in most cases.

Otherwise I have friends thats happy with their XPS machines.
 
Look honestly.

Why are HPs soo slow, its because the idiot that configures it (not always HP) that doesnt know their A from B.

When I got my Zbook, my PA had an SATA installed in it. Seriously. It has 2x NVME slots, but they installed a SATA drive.

For those that dont know. SATA speed is about 500mb/s, but mine supports PCIE 4 which car run at 7500mb/s on the right nvme drive. Then there is ram speed, normally I am not fussy, I use Crucial to upgrade. They have a good tool to help you decide which and they work. Oh for NVME I use Samsung Evo Plus or Pro. They are pretty much the benchmark in fast speeds.
Samsung 980 - 980 Evo - 980 Evo Plus - 980 Pro (generally this is from slow to fast in their range.

Thats the biggest contributors of speed, if not for the graphics card (some has dedicated and some you can swop the GPU or you can run an EGPU at home.

So just to help you, if you have an old laptop, some only supports 8gb of ram, but get a Samsung SATA (the ones that doesnt support nvme (crucial can tell you which), and it would make a bigger difference than extra ram. So if you have a old laptop and want to use it for your kids, the right components can help a lot. Or parents too. SSD/NVME and Ram speeds up laptops.

But back to the rest. Normally a PA advises what the laptop should and shouldnt have. And there is a huge range of components that you can configure your HP or Dell for, and since they dont know the difference between one harddrive and another, you will probably get the cheapest, same with the rest.
 
So here. This is my work laptop. If you scroll down you will see the amount of options you can spec your laptop out with when you order it for the office. And those sim card modems, we chuck them out. It costs 2-3k and most will just use wifi or connect to their phone internet. or one of those shared wifi pocket modems, its cheaper than the internal modem.


Camera shutter door (for privacy; on select models)

Do however get a backlit keyboard, its a big plus and costs about $10.

Oh spill resistance doesnt help when it has vents on the side. Useless really. coffee will spill over your keyboard, run over the sides and flood your laptop.
 
Dan C said:
They are all the same. It's not like Dell or HP make memory chips or CPU's
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All made in Taiwan hahaha. 90% of the world chipset market is in taiwan, next to rocket and anti aircraft silos. Why? If China does invade Taiwan, they would end the world of computers as we know it. And thats why they havent dared to invade. TSMC has been building factories in the US though. And yes they make chipsets for HP, Dell, Apple, Intel, AMD, Nvidia, etc. So just imagine what will happens when the bombs hit these factories. No more microchips.
 
Corelli said:
Ass seriously?

What crap HP are you buying?

Elitebooks, Zbooks or what?

I use an HP Elitebook 860 G10, and it works well, sure I use Dell Monitors (P series), but its pretty good.

For home I use a Zbook Fury.

With HP its all about what you are willing to spend money on, buy cheap and get cheap.

I find Apple extremely overpriced however. Especially in SA and support....well it totally lacking. I would only buy from Digicape.
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Dell and HP Workstations cost the same as a MacBook Pro. Difference is Onsite Warranty. Dell you can get 5 years onsite but if there are issue they replace your hardware with broken parts.... I mean refurbished parts.

What is HP's Onsite support like for the workstations?
 
Corelli said:
So here. This is my work laptop. If you scroll down you will see the amount of options you can spec your laptop out with when you order it for the office. And those sim card modems, we chuck them out. It costs 2-3k and most will just use wifi or connect to their phone internet. or one of those shared wifi pocket modems, its cheaper than the internal modem.


Camera shutter door (for privacy; on select models)

Do however get a backlit keyboard, its a big plus and costs about $10.

Oh spill resistance doesnt help when it has vents on the side. Useless really. coffee will spill over your keyboard, run over the sides and flood your laptop.
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Oh... You are a foreigner.
 
RedViking said:
Dell and HP Workstations cost the same as a MacBook Pro. Difference is Onsite Warranty. Dell you can get 5 years onsite but if there are issue they replace your hardware with broken parts.... I mean refurbished parts.

What is HP's Onsite support like for the workstations?
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Company I worked for switched from Dell to HP just over a year ago. So far HP is doing good. Also, the workstations and Elitebooks we bought/buy was/is all half the price of the cheapest Macbook pro. :unsure:
Support SLA's is same as Dell, 4 hour, although we didn't have a lot of support calls at our site yet for proper comparison. But the two times they came out, part in hand, was within 4 hours.
 
RedViking said:
Dell and HP Workstations cost the same as a MacBook Pro. Difference is Onsite Warranty. Dell you can get 5 years onsite but if there are issue they replace your hardware with broken parts.... I mean refurbished parts.

What is HP's Onsite support like for the workstations?
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Next day replace or repair, same as Dell
 
RedViking said:
Oh... You are a foreigner.
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Am local. Why in dollars?

Because when you order large volumes of HPs and Dells even in SA they give a price in dollars then converts it to rand.

So if you logon to the US dell site you can configure your device, same as Hp. You dont buy a stock version as if you bought at a shop here. HP also lets you buy vouchers which you can use to extend laptop warranties not for a specific laptop but for a certain volume of laptops.

So yes you can choose each part you want. But its in dollars.
 
We switched from Compaq to Dell and now to HP at work. Really great laptops. 4 year warranties as standard.

We run Azure and AWS. And yes we use AWS to develop on Mac OS. Macs are pricey and service and support sucks badly in SA. Guess you havent been told, if its broken why dont you buy a new one instead (even when its under warranty). I have.

In the US and UK with better Mac support, Macs make perfect sense. But here? No thanks. You can run a virtual workstation on AWS running any OS you want. Macs dont offer next day support here. Expect week or 2.
 
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