Democrats Have Impeached Trump in the House.

[konfab]

It's not good racism. It's reparations.

So as a good bible bearing CNN watching zealot progressive, why haven't you given a random black family everything you own. You talk the talk, but do you actually act according to your own beliefs? Have you quit your job to make room for a black woman?

 

[The Free Radical]

Do you have any idea what a ****wit you sound like when you say stuff like "Soros sponsored snowflakism and leftardism"?

I rest my case. Triggered!

 

[cerebus]

By it's very core it's racism... Discrimination based on race is RACISM... Just because you don't like it doesn't make it less racist.

No. Racism is saying that one racial group should be discriminated against on the basis of racial superiority. (Dictionary: prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.)

Reparations are saying that one group experienced severe racism in the past, and should be advantaged in some way to make up for what happened and equalize the situation between the races. Two fundamentally different things.

On this, when would reparations have been reached? You need to be able to quantify it if that is what you're trying to do. So when is equilibrium reached?

I can't answer that question. I'm just talking about the nature of it.

If someone else stole from your neighbours and the governments forced you to to give them x amount and reject you from employment despite not having taken anything you are most definitely being discriminated against.

You didn't do anything, but your country certainly did, and the country has to make up for it. I mean ffs apartheid ended in 1994, AFTER Kurt Kobain died. That's like yesterday. And what the country does ripples down to the citizens, whether or not they were responsible for what happened. You might think it's unfair but it doesn't make it racist. See above for definition of racism.

That is literally the core of nationalism... The thing you were accusing Trump of... That Trump wants to get rid of...

Lol no that's not nationalism. It's the opposite of nationalism. Nationalism is believing in the inherent superiority of your nation, and reparations are recognizing the deep flaws in your nation.



Ok guys I can't answer every question from everyone, I have a job to do here.

 

[C4Cat]

Syria? Afghanistan, Congo... I can go on and on...

Just because you fight for your country, doesn't make war Nationalist. Please explain to me what is wrong about placing your country first and foremost in everything it does. Placing it's citizens first? Proudly SA then a bad thing I suppose?

Come on, you clearly know the difference. however try and prevent yourself from an NPC BSOD error I think.

lol, I suppose the Syrian Social Nationalist Party has nothing to do with nationalism? The foreign involvement in the Syrian Civil War has nothing to do with nationalism? I suppose you think Pashtun nationalism has nothing to do with the war in Afghanistan? You probably think that al Qaeda and the Taliban are not nationalist groups too It was a A nationalist movement in the Congo that demanded the end of colonial rule (also a nationalist rule) which plunged the Congo into war and fighting between various nationalist parties that continues it. I mean come on. Nationalism! What is it good for? Absolutely Nothing!

 

[cerebus]

So as a good bible bearing CNN watching zealot progressive, why haven't you given a random black family everything you own. You talk the talk, but do you actually act according to your own beliefs? Have you quit your job to make room for a black woman?

give me a break

 

[Pitbull]

No. Racism is saying that one racial group should be discriminated against on the basis of racial superiority. (Dictionary: prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.)

That is nit picking parts of the definition that suits your narrative. Racism is racism. You can't choose sections you like and ignore those you don't

 

[Pitbull]

Nationalism is believing in the inherent superiority of your nation,

WTF?!?!?!

Where did you get this from? Again... more libtard propaganda pulling you guys down Nationalism is not about superiority /facepalm.

 

[konfab]

Lol no that's not nationalism. It's the opposite of nationalism. Nationalism is believing in the inherent superiority of your nation, and reparations are recognizing the deep flaws in your nation.

It is nationalism. You are stating that the "black nation" has been oppressed, and thus need the "white" nation to pay for it. That is literally what the very worst examples of nationalism do. You are claiming the moral superiority of black people so much that you think it is ok to discriminate against a random white person who hasn't done anything wrong.

 

[C4Cat]

Please explain to me what is wrong about placing your country first and foremost in everything it does. Placing it's citizens first? Proudly SA then a bad thing I suppose?

You are describing patriotism here, which is different to nationalism.

 

[cerebus]

WTF?!?!?!

Where did you get this from? Again... more libtard propaganda pulling you guys down Nationalism is not about superiority /facepalm.

Webster's

Definition of nationalism

1: loyalty and devotion to a nationespecially : a sense of national consciousness (see CONSCIOUSNESS sense 1c) exalting one nation above all others and placing primary emphasis on promotion of its culture and interests as opposed to those of other nations or supranational groups

 

[rambo919]

No. Racism is saying that one racial group should be discriminated against on the basis of racial superiority. (Dictionary: prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.)

And what if you just hate a race without thinking yours is superior? What's that?

 

[cerebus]

And what if you just hate a race without thinking yours is superior? What's that?

An oxymoron

 

[C4Cat]

WTF?!?!?!

Where did you get this from? Again... more libtard propaganda pulling you guys down Nationalism is not about superiority /facepalm.

TIL that the dictionary is 'libtard' propaganda.

 

[rambo919]

An oxymoron

No it's not, why do you HAVE to think yourself superior to dislike anything? You are the one with an oxymoron.

 

[konfab]

lol, I suppose the Syrian Social Nationalist Party has nothing to do with nationalism? The foreign involvement in the Syrian Civil War has nothing to do with nationalism? I suppose you think Pashtun nationalism has nothing to do with the war in Afghanistan? You probably think that al Qaeda and the Taliban are not nationalist groups too It was a A nationalist movement in the Congo that demanded the end of colonial rule (also a nationalist rule) which plunged the Congo into war and fighting between various nationalist parties that continues it.

Oh so now if a political party has a word in it, it means something. Interesting.

I suppose the National Socialist party of Germany now can finally rest its laurels on socialism...

Nationalism! What is it good for? Absolutely Nothing!

It stops communism for one. Which is a pretty good reason...

If you want to claim that there are different varieties of socialism, then surely it isn't too difficult to see that there are different varieties of nationalism.

The type of national pride that Japan has for example is a form of nationalism, yet it doesn't mean they want to declare war on everyone. And they were really good hosts of the Rugby world cup.

 

[rambo919]

I hate spinnach CLEARLY I do so because I am superior to it.

 

[Pitbull]

Webster's

Definition of nationalism

1: loyalty and devotion to a nationespecially : a sense of national consciousness (see CONSCIOUSNESS sense 1c) exalting one nation above all others and placing primary emphasis on promotion of its culture and interests as opposed to those of other nations or supranational groups

And?

Superior as you claimed? So South Africans who are proud of their country, see them superior to let's say US/AUS/NZ/ENG and the likes? You have completely lost the plot

 

[Cray]

WTF?!?!?!

Where did you get this from? Again... more libtard propaganda pulling you guys down Nationalism is not about superiority /facepalm.

https://lithub.com/what-george-orwell-wrote-about-the-dangers-of-nationalism/

What George Orwell Wrote About the Dangers of Nationalism

By “nationalism” I mean first of all the habit of assuming that human beings can be classified like insects and that whole blocks of millions or tens of millions of people can be confidently labelled “good” or “bad.” But secondly—and this is much more important—I mean the habit of identifying oneself with a single nation or other unit, placing it beyond good and evil and recognizing no other duty than that of advancing its interests.

 

[cerebus]

It is nationalism. You are stating that the "black nation" has been oppressed, and thus need the "white" nation to pay for it. That is literally what the very worst examples of nationalism do. You are claiming the moral superiority of black people so much that you think it is ok to discriminate against a random white person who hasn't done anything wrong.

You just make up definitions to suit you hey?

 

[Pitbull]

You are describing patriotism here, which is different to nationalism.

They are synonymous