Democrats Have Impeached Trump in the House.

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buka001 said:
I guess when I see Trump speak of black unemployment, I see a guy looking for black votes.

Has there been specific policies, capital investment or anything of particular that Trump did to directly improve the unemployment figures for black people, or is it just a function of the fact that unemployment as a whole has been on the decline since Obama has been in office.

What measures my view is Trump's history. Exclusion of black people from apartments.
His militant campaign against the Central Park 5. These actions outweigh his words far more.

It is like how when he campaigned he was all I am the most LGBTI friendly guy ever and then boom bans transgender people from serving in the military. Words vs actions.
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No simply by getting the economy going he lowered the unemployment rate for everyone. Mind**** of note hey??
 
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No, you missed the point. It's no strawman. At the time it was an accepted. You can't judge history by events a hundred years later.

But it has become fashionable to throw as much crap into a subject as possible to win an argument at all costs, not taking historical context into consideration. Do I call you a grub eater to win an argument just because your ancestors probably ate them or some other funny stuff three thousand years back? Yes, I stretched the time frames to illustrate the point. 3000 yrs or a 100 yrs. Society evolves.

And no, I will not call you a grub eater because mine were probably foraging for them with yours. In fact all of the members on this forum. But I guess historical honesty is the first casualty for own goals. Typically SJW do that. So you decide.

Splinter ... balk.
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No you missed the point.

You wanted to make me acknowledge that slavery wasn't specific to just them. Which is obvious and was not the point.

The point was contextualised to the BS point made by Jack. Where the founding fathers would be considered as White Nationalists. They wouldn't. Fighting for independence from an oppressive foreign state is not Nationalism.

The point illustrated that if you want to actually bring up something that they could be judged for in modern day context, then their acquiescence and unwillingness to end slavery is the specific element which contrasted them from other slave owning nations at that point in time when they declared independence and penned the constitution.

This was a country born out of repression deciding to continue oppression. This is the nuance you fail to see.

Everyone had slaves. Everyone would be judged negatively by today's standards. That was never the point of my post and why I had no idea of what your point was. It was too obvious, that I could not see why you thought it should be called out. But alas, so easy to strawman it into hur dur EveRYOnE HaD SlAVeS, sO YOU cANt jUDGe tHeM BY tHat STAnDard.

I am not. I am judging them by their failure to seize the opportunity to end it.

What set them apart from other countries at that time and why I brought that up was they had a specific and unique opportunity to end it and did not. That failing also led directly to the Civil War. It is the most significant failing of the founding fathers and the consequences have gone on for centuries. This is the point. And the nuance.
 
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Vrotappel said:
No simply by getting the economy going he lowered the unemployment rate for everyone. Mind**** of note hey??
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Thank Obama. Employment has been falling since 2010. Economy has been picking up since he was in power.
 
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The Voice said:
The Left just can't stop losing.
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Everybody has lost. Trump is incompetent at making good policy (e.g. environmental policies, trade wars, healthcare) and he is corrupt. He has a corrupting presence in the US government. So whilst his fans may celebrate what they think of as a win, in the end, everybody loses. His policies, in the long run, will be to the detriment of most. Republican senators have nothing to celebrate in being Trump's enablers. Even Trump is losing. Presidency is taking its toll on him and frankly I'm not sure if his body can take five more years of it. It may actually be in his own best interests to move on to something less stressful.
 
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Back in 2016, for a while, I was rooting for Ted Cruz. How he has disappointed me! It's folks like him who give politicians a bad name. No integrity whatsoever.
 
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lumeer said:
Back in 2016, for a while, I was rooting for Ted Cruz. How he has disappointed me! It's folks like him who give politicians a bad name. No integrity whatsoever.
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You mean like how Obama hired Hillary and Hillary done a 180 on Obama's suitability for being the President. Yeah it's called politics. Seems you don't understand how the game works.
 
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buka001 said:
Just curious, for all the Trump fans.

Do you honestly think any single anti-Trump, libtard, smowflake, TDS, NPC, SJW, what ever other slur there is, are actually shocked by this?

Do you think anyone is crying "more liberal" tears?

I have not seen any single person here, or any of the "lefties" on twitter express any thing that suggested this was unexpected and are "triggered" by this.
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Everybody knew this was just another partisan hoax, even the libtard NPC SJW snowflakes.

I think it is time for another public health announcement:
Russiagate was a hoax.
MSM is Fake News™
Epstein didn't kill himself.
Former CIA director thanks God for the Deep State.
Impeachment was a partisan joke and hoax.
 
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I must admit that were I an American, I would probably not vote for Sanders because of his health. Back in 2016, it was different, then he was my favourite Democrat candidate. I think that a US president should be in good health. On that front, I think that Trump should also be disqualified.

By the way, all that Sanders is proposing is pretty much what's already happening in countries like Germany and the UK.

One of the things that I like about Sanders, and that should scare Trump, is his sincerity. He isn't a career politician who just wants to remain in office. He has a heartfelt desire to make the world a better place, and his purity of heart and enthusiasm shine through. Trump cannot compete with that.
 
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lumeer said:
I must admit that were I an American, I would probably not vote for Sanders because of his health. Back in 2016, it was different, then he was my favourite Democrat candidate. I think that a US president should be in good health. On that front, I think that Trump should also be disqualified.

By the way, all that Sanders is proposing is pretty much what's already happening in countries like Germany and the UK.

One of the things that I like about Sanders, and that should scare Trump, is his sincerity. He isn't a career politician who just wants to remain in office. He has a heartfelt desire to make the world a better place, and his purity of heart and enthusiasm shine through. Trump cannot compete with that.
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Lol what. Trump is very enthusiastic! His rallies are a hoot, out there enjoying himself! He also makes people laugh with his good jokes!
 
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