Democrats Have Impeached Trump in the House.

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I must admit that were I an American, I would probably not vote for Sanders because of his health. Back in 2016, it was different, then he was my favourite Democrat candidate. I think that a US president should be in good health. On that front, I think that Trump should also be disqualified.

By the way, all that Sanders is proposing is pretty much what's already happening in countries like Germany and the UK.

One of the things that I like about Sanders, and that should scare Trump, is his sincerity. He isn't a career politician who just wants to remain in office. He has a heartfelt desire to make the world a better place, and his purity of heart and enthusiasm shine through. Trump cannot compete with that.
Didn't you get a boner for Bloomberg?
The Dem field in a nut...shell
Boners for Bloomberg.
Sausages for Sanders.
Breaking wind for Pocahontas.
Jizz for Joe.
Buttplugs for Buttigieg.
 

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Everybody has lost. Trump is incompetent at making good policy (e.g. environmental policies, trade wars, healthcare) and he is corrupt. He has a corrupting presence in the US government. So whilst his fans may celebrate what they think of as a win, in the end, everybody loses. His policies, in the long run, will be to the detriment of most. Republican senators have nothing to celebrate in being Trump's enablers. Even Trump is losing. Presidency is taking its toll on him and frankly I'm not sure if his body can take five more years of it. It may actually be in his own best interests to move on to something less stressful.
Regardless, no-one is enabling Trump more than the Democrats are. It's mirrored here in the UK: no-one on the Left wants to vote for the Tories, but as a large portion of the Left voter base still resides closer to the Centre, and is frankly terrified of the extremist policies coming out of the Far Left, they find themselves with no choice but to vote for their sworn enemies, who are now closer to the Centre, and represent actual Liberalism.

You know you've ****ed up as a political party when the Tories look like the safer bet, and back to the US, when Trump makes sense.

The Left needs to sort itself out, and very quickly or, like I said earlier, they'll just keep losing. Pelosi tearing up the SOTN speech is a perfect example: stop acting like Trump if you plan on actually ever beating him in an election.
 

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Lol what. Trump is very enthusiastic! His rallies are a hoot, out there enjoying himself! He also makes people laugh with his good jokes!

In some way I guess but he's one of the least sincere people I've ever seen in my life. I don't believe a word that comes out of his mouth, ever.
 

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You mean like how Obama hired Hillary and Hillary done a 180 on Obama's suitability for being the President. Yeah it's called politics. Seems you don't understand how the game works.

What you describe is career politics, not politics in general. And that's precisely what disappoints me about Cruz: he is a career politician who managed to pull a fast one on me.

It is fitting that he's grown a beard. It makes him look creepy. It is the physical manifestation of his moral metamorphosis. As on the inside, so on the outside.
 
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Is this the USA or Zimbabwe???

MANCHESTER, N.H. — Following more delays and errors in reporting of the Iowa caucus results, the chairman of the Democratic National Committee called on the Iowa Democratic Party to immediately begin a full “recanvass” of the state.

“Enough is enough,” Tom Perez, the D.N.C. chairman, said on Twitter on Thursday. “In light of the problems that have emerged in the implementation of the delegate selection plan and in order to assure public confidence in the results, I am calling on the Iowa Democratic Party to immediately begin a recanvass.”

The delay in results that began on Monday night has continued for days, with at least 3 percent of the state results still unreported as of Thursday.

And according to a New York Times analysis published on Thursday morning, more than 100 precincts across the state reported results that were either internally inconsistent, missing data or that were not possible under the complex rules of the Iowa caucuses.
 

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I must admit that were I an American, I would probably not vote for Sanders because of his health. Back in 2016, it was different, then he was my favourite Democrat candidate. I think that a US president should be in good health. On that front, I think that Trump should also be disqualified.

By the way, all that Sanders is proposing is pretty much what's already happening in countries like Germany and the UK.

One of the things that I like about Sanders, and that should scare Trump, is his sincerity. He isn't a career politician who just wants to remain in office. He has a heartfelt desire to make the world a better place, and his purity of heart and enthusiasm shine through. Trump cannot compete with that.
He was the best candidate for the Democrats in the last election without a doubt, but then that crazy bitch did him in, and everyone saw her true colours and voted for the opposition instead.
 

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Everybody has lost. Trump is incompetent at making good policy (e.g. environmental policies, trade wars, healthcare) and he is corrupt. He has a corrupting presence in the US government. So whilst his fans may celebrate what they think of as a win, in the end, everybody loses. His policies, in the long run, will be to the detriment of most. Republican senators have nothing to celebrate in being Trump's enablers. Even Trump is losing. Presidency is taking its toll on him and frankly I'm not sure if his body can take five more years of it. It may actually be in his own best interests to move on to something less stressful.

Agreed, everybody has lost. Economy has tanked. Job-losses all over the place, retrenchments at the state owned entities, and more to come. So so corrupt government, weak policies everyone losing so bad, its like they not getting tired of losing!

Oh, damn it, sorry I thought I was replying to THIS thread.
 

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I wonder, about Lindsey Graham: is he perhaps playing Trump, or is he also just a spineless career politician? Trump is a narcissist, and narcissists are easy to manipulate if you're willing to play that game. Is Graham doing what he's doing in order to harness Trump for what he believes to be a greater good?

Graham was friends with John McCain, with whom he served in the millitary, yet he kept quiet as Trump was insulting McCain. Graham was also friends with Biden, yet in order to deflect attention from Trump, he wanted Hunter Biden investigated for what he knows to be nothing but a conspiracy theory. He was willing to go after the child of a friend in order to serve Trump.

So, is he doing this in order to pull the strings in Trump's mind, or is he just that low of a person?
 

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Great, well I see the FBI have now classed it as a major threat. Amazing coincidence.

Lol, I asked for the numbers to ascertain whether it was the main threat. as you asserted. You contorted that into no threat. Also:

His statements indicate the FBI is just as concerned about racially-motivated violent extremists, including white supremacists, as it is about the threat posed by homegrown violent extremists inspired by foreign terrorist organizations. Wray said both pose a grave threat because the perpetrators are often "lone actors," self-radicalized online, who often look to attack "soft targets" such as public gatherings, retail locations or houses of worship.

Of which white supremacy is a part - major part but still a part.

No its ODS, since it was Obama who brought unemployment down and the economy up.

As rietrot stated, It happened right after a crash. Also, how was it done? By pumping large amounts of liquidity into the very system that gorged itself on that easy debt. I've argued that Trump should take a knee on owning the stock market but you have to compare apples with apples here.
 

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I must admit that were I an American, I would probably not vote for Sanders because of his health. Back in 2016, it was different, then he was my favourite Democrat candidate. I think that a US president should be in good health. On that front, I think that Trump should also be disqualified.

By the way, all that Sanders is proposing is pretty much what's already happening in countries like Germany and the UK.

One of the things that I like about Sanders, and that should scare Trump, is his sincerity. He isn't a career politician who just wants to remain in office. He has a heartfelt desire to make the world a better place, and his purity of heart and enthusiasm shine through. Trump cannot compete with that.

He's a communist man, not the saint you make him out to be. Have you seen the old footage were he praises the USSR's public transport system. Democratic socialist, yeah right, that is for the foolish masses.

But perhaps the US deserves a bit of Bernie in charge, see just what socialism/communism will bring to the country.
 

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He's a communist man, not the saint you make him out to be. Have you seen the old footage were he praises the USSR's public transport system. Democratic socialist, yeah right, that is for the foolish masses.

But perhaps the US deserves a bit of Bernie in charge, see just what socialism/communism will bring to the country.
That's kind of the thing with Communism/Socialism: it always looks good on paper, and it's easy to punt. But, looking at history and every country that has implemented it, they've all gone to complete **** because you don't get to cherry pick the parts you like, and dump the others. Try, and it's off to the gulags with you.
 

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Agreed, everybody has lost. Economy has tanked. Job-losses all over the place, retrenchments at the state owned entities, and more to come. So so corrupt government, weak policies everyone losing so bad, its like they not getting tired of losing!

Oh, damn it, sorry I thought I was replying to THIS thread.

The US economy was launched on its current trajectory under Obama. These things don't happen overnight.

You should read up on Trump's business misadventures. Many of his businesses have failed; to name but a few: Trump Air, Trump Water, Trump Meat, Trump University, The Trump Taj Mahal. It's been calculated that had he simply taken the money that he had gotten from his father and invested it in the S&P 500, he'd actually be richer today than he is. To me, it's a mystery why people trust his judgment on economic matters.
 

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at last, were there!

and then??


The US economy was launched on its current trajectory under Obama. These things don't happen overnight.

You should read up on Trump's business misadventures. Many of his businesses have failed; to name but a few: Trump Air, Trump Water, Trump Meat, Trump University, The Trump Taj Mahal. It's been calculated that had he simply taken the money that he had gotten from his father and invested it in the S&P 500, he'd actually be richer today than he is. To me, it's a mystery why people trust his judgment on economic matters.

huh? do you know how many of the worlds richest have had "business misadventures"..
 

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Lol, I asked for the numbers to ascertain whether it was the main threat. as you asserted. You contorted that into no threat. Also:



Of which white supremacy is a part - major part but still a part.



As rietrot stated, It happened right after a crash. Also, how was it done? By pumping large amounts of liquidity into the very system that gorged itself on that easy debt. I've argued that Trump should take a knee on owning the stock market but you have to compare apples with apples here.
And Trump has only expanded that debt.
 
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