Democrats Have Impeached Trump in the House.

[OrbitalDawn]

More gaslighting - I wouldn't be making the case if it wasn't but your opinion is the only one that matters eh? So you finally admit it was an ad hominem but because of their posting history it's ok? This guy!

You haven't made an argument anywhere. Seems to be your schtick - assert things and pretend it's been settled.

And you still don't seem to understand what gaslighting or ad hominems are. Maybe one day.

I'm pleased that yesterday's conversation about us all doing better and putting in effort to elevate the discourse here is working so well already.

Thanks Temujin.

Weird that Gnarls didn't jump on him.

zuma sells SA to guptas... trump puts US back in the hands of 'mericans after dems sold it to china... same same

Is this the derangement you guys mention every so often, cos good grief...

His approval ratings has increased since the the impeachment process started. This was an absolutely political blunder from the dems.

Remarkable insight into the Trumpet alternate reality.

Except all aid is conditioned, withholding anything from congress is not obstruction, its his right, and court gets to decide on whether or not his reasons are valid, not the house. Its not his problem dems opted not to go to court and get the docs which is the way it works, and of course yovanovitch was not fired

More alternate reality stuff.

The law is extremely clear on this stuff, which is why the GAO's ruling was so easy and clear-cut.

It was obvious since November last year already.

GAO Decided Trump’s Hold on Ukraine Funding Was Illegal and It Wasn’t a Tough Call

Four Takeaways from GAO’s conclusion that Trump's hold on Ukraine military assistance was illegal.

www.justsecurity.org

 

[OrbitalDawn]

CC @buka001

Lots of action in Virginia recently.

The Virginia gun rights rally raising fears of violence, explained

Why an annual Lobby Day has resulted in a state of emergency and online calls for a civil war.

www.vox.com

the governor of Virginia, Ralph Northam, has declared a state of emergency for Monday due to intelligence he says shows “a threat of an armed militia groups storming our capital.” One member of the Virginia General Assembly was so beset by death threats that he is currently staying in a safe house.

On Thursday, the FBI announced the arrest of three white nationalists in Maryland, members of a neo-Nazi training network called the Base — the English translation of the Arabic term “al-Qaeda.” The three, including one former Canadian army reservist who went missing last summer, were allegedly heading to Richmond. According to the FBI, they had recently constructed a machine gun and obtained thousands of rounds of ammunition and body armor.

 

[TysonRoux]

CC @buka001

Lots of action in Virginia recently.

The Virginia gun rights rally raising fears of violence, explained

Why an annual Lobby Day has resulted in a state of emergency and online calls for a civil war.

www.vox.com

the governor of Virginia, Ralph Northam, has declared a state of emergency for Monday due to intelligence he says shows “a threat of an armed militia groups storming our capital.” One member of the Virginia General Assembly was so beset by death threats that he is currently staying in a safe house.

On Thursday, the FBI announced the arrest of three white nationalists in Maryland, members of a neo-Nazi training network called the Base — the English translation of the Arabic term “al-Qaeda.” The three, including one former Canadian army reservist who went missing last summer, were allegedly heading to Richmond. According to the FBI, they had recently constructed a machine gun and obtained thousands of rounds of ammunition and body armor.

Trump's folks.

White Supremacists, Extremists Celebrate President Trump’s Latest Racist Tweets

www.adl.org

Trump said 'many people agree' with his racist tweets. These white supremacists certainly do.

Opinion | Mr. President, please don't use Israel to wage your racist war on "The Squad"

Some of the representatives' views are disturbing, but the president's racist and xenophobic outburst is utterly unacceptable.

www.nbcnews.com

Trump Attacks Democratic Congresswomen With White Nationalist Rhetoric

With his reelection campaign now underway, the president is trying out an even bigger dog whistle.

nymag.com

 

[TysonRoux]

ROLF

White House's top Russia official put on leave pending investigation

It's another jolt of uncertainty to an office in the White House that has experienced significant turnover during the past year.

www.nbcnews.com

It's another jolt of uncertainty to an office in the White House that has seen significant turnover during the past year.

The top White House official responsible for Russia and Europe has been put on administrative leave indefinitely amid a security-related investigation, two U.S. officials and a former U.S. official tell NBC News.

Andrew Peek, who took over the Russia portfolio at the White House National Security Council in November, had been scheduled to join President Donald Trump at the Davos Forum this week before he was abruptly put on leave, one of the officials said. The officials declined to specify the nature of the investigation.


Peek did not respond to a request for comment Sunday. A National Security Council spokesman declined to comment on his status, which was earlier reported by Axios.

"We do not discuss personnel matters," the NSC spokesman said.

Trump’s newest Russia adviser, Andrew Peek, leaves post: report

Andrew Peek, the head of European and Russian affairs at the National Security Council (NSC), has left his post three months after he started, people familiar with the situation told Bloo…

thehill.com

Andrew Peek, the head of European and Russian affairs at the National Security Council (NSC), has left his post three months after he started, people familiar with the situation told Bloomberg on Saturday evening.

Sources told the publication that Peek was escorted from the White House on Friday.

 

[Gnarls]

You haven't made an argument anywhere. Seems to be your schtick - assert things and pretend it's been settled.

And you still don't seem to understand what gaslighting or ad hominems are. Maybe one day.



Weird that Gnarls didn't jump on him.

Whoosh!

Your wrong opinion again And this is your MO. You've missed the point again though....

 

[cerebus]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/01/19/george-conway-oped-trump-starr-dershowitz/

George Conway: Why Trump had to hire this legal odd couple

This is what happens when you don’t pay your legal bills.

President Trump, whose businesses and now campaign have left a long trail of unpaid bills behind them, has never discriminated when it comes to stiffing people who work for him. That includes lawyers — which is part of the reason he found the need to make some curious last-minute tweaks to his team, announcing the addition of the legal odd couple of Alan Dershowitz and Kenneth W. Starr.

Dershowitz “revels in taking positions that ultimately are not just controversial but pretty close to indefensible.” Dershowitz’s recent assertion that the Supreme Court could order the Senate not to conduct an impeachment trial illustrates the point. Not only is that claim indefensible — it’s also ridiculous.


As if that were not enough, in the Clinton case, Starr argued that Clinton had committed an impeachable offense by blocking witness testimony and documents. Oops.

 

[greg0205]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/01/19/george-conway-oped-trump-starr-dershowitz/

George Conway: Why Trump had to hire this legal odd couple

This is what happens when you don’t pay your legal bills.

President Trump, whose businesses and now campaign have left a long trail of unpaid bills behind them, has never discriminated when it comes to stiffing people who work for him. That includes lawyers — which is part of the reason he found the need to make some curious last-minute tweaks to his team, announcing the addition of the legal odd couple of Alan Dershowitz and Kenneth W. Starr.

Dershowitz “revels in taking positions that ultimately are not just controversial but pretty close to indefensible.” Dershowitz’s recent assertion that the Supreme Court could order the Senate not to conduct an impeachment trial illustrates the point. Not only is that claim indefensible — it’s also ridiculous.


As if that were not enough, in the Clinton case, Starr argued that Clinton had committed an impeachable offense by blocking witness testimony and documents. Oops.

Pretty sure Adam and the rest of the impeachment managers have interns watching all the video of Ken during the Clinton impeachment... He'll be saying the exact opposite of what he was asserting twenty years ago, and Democrats should rub his nose in it every time he does.

 

[The Free Radical]

Zzzzzzzzzzz. Trump will be exonerated a day or two before his annual House Address, then he's going to rip the Democrats a new one. Then he is going to shred them up in the elections.

Like Boris Johnson, he'll then command a comfortable lead for his next term.

The challenge thereafter will be trying to find another strong conservative Republican to fill his shoes at the end of his term.

My money would be on former Rep. Trey Gowdy of South Caronlina if he put himself forward for nomination in the Republican Party in future. A no nonsense, honorable guy.

 

[buka001]

CC @buka001

Lots of action in Virginia recently.

The Virginia gun rights rally raising fears of violence, explained

Why an annual Lobby Day has resulted in a state of emergency and online calls for a civil war.

www.vox.com

Thanks. I have been monitoring this situation closely.

Good times when I have been told several times that this is not a thing, but ooh watch out for those Kaktural Muchists.

 

[greg0205]

Thanks. I have been monitoring this situation closely.

Good times when I have been told several times that this is not a thing, but ooh watch out for those Kaktural Muchists.

It's all very confusing... I mean I have been assured, repeatedly, that a strawberry milkshake is the most dangerous weapon ever devised by man.

 

[ForceFate]

It's all very confusing... I mean I have been assured, repeatedly, that a strawberry milkshake is the most dangerous weapon ever devised by man.

ROLF

 

[rietrot]

Thanks. I have been monitoring this situation closely.

Good times when I have been told several times that this is not a thing, but ooh watch out for those Kaktural Muchists.

Its amazing the amount of BS going on around this and it's nice to see that a bunch of normal people who just happen to own guns and care about their rights to defend themselves scare you guys so much.

I hope theirs no falseflag "attack", but I won't put anything past some anti-gun nut activist.

 

[konfab]

Its amazing the amount of BS going on around this and it's nice to see that a bunch of normal people who just happen to own guns and care about their rights to defend themselves scare you guys so much.

I hope theirs no falseflag "attack", but I won't put anything past some anti-gun nut activist.

Having lots of armed people around really is a massive deterrent, so I am not expecting anything.

The biggest thing that the law enforcement has to do is to make sure that counter-protesters are kept well away. If the tolerant progressives start throwing bricks at people who have guns, it will not go well.

Antifa is also going to be a problem, as I don't think their intentions about supporting the gun people are genuine.

 

[buka001]

Its amazing the amount of BS going on around this and it's nice to see that a bunch of normal people who just happen to own guns and care about their rights to defend themselves scare you guys so much.

I hope theirs no falseflag "attack", but I won't put anything past some anti-gun nut activist.

I understand that you feel that the FBI may have over reached on this.

Did you evaluate what the guys from The Base were actually up too? Why did they need to make a machine gun?

If you were tasked with looking after the safety of the people in your city, would you take threats from those specific people seriously?

They planned to attend that rally. This is what their stated aim is - accelerate the downfall of the United States government, incite a race war and establish a white ethno-state. and had also stated the following - overthrow the government and murder a Bartow County couple (A couple they believed were Antifa)

Nothing to be worried about then? One of the guys arrested has been involved in the vandalism of synagogues, which he called Operation Kristallnacht.

If they went by the name Al Qaeda, would you have supported their arrest then?

 

[greg0205]

Its amazing the amount of BS going on around this and it's nice to see that a bunch of normal people who just happen to own guns and care about their rights to defend themselves scare you guys so much.

I hope theirs no falseflag "attack", but I won't put anything past some anti-gun nut activist.

No.

This post clearly lays out how little you know about today's rally and how incurious you are generally.

Lemme help you out a bit 'tho.

Usually the Virginia Citizens Defense League hold their "Lobby Day" at the Virginia Capitol on MLK Jr Day. Their main guy, Philip Van Cleave, is on record for saying, "VCDL is proud to be categorised as an extremist organisation, and we fully intend to continue being such!".

A couple of hundred folk turn up, so, no problem really... BUT...

Because elections have consequences, the Democratic legislature want to enact background check laws. Background checks in Virginia. Not, no guns, or taking away guns. Background checks. In Virginia.

White nationalists and far-right militias are upset this is happening - in Virginia - so they're heading there from *all over* the States. Thousands of them. Fully armed... The Base, Oath Keepers, all of them... A lot of the same folk who were in Charlottesville, you know, where they murdered Heather Heyer.

They're saying they want to accelerate a "race war".

Folk have been getting death threats and the threats are credible enough for authorities to have the temp gun ban, a ban the courts upheld after organisers challenged it.

The capitol is cordoned off. Roads are closed.

LE are monitoring the internet and they'll be out in force today.

Flights over the capitol are being restricted because there's a possibility that weaponised drones could be deployed.

Antifa folk are being told - by Antifa folk - to stay away. No-one's safety can be guaranteed. No one.


... Anyway, tell us more about some "anti-gun nut" activists, why don't cha.

 

[Tokolotshe]

CC @buka001

Lots of action in Virginia recently.

The Virginia gun rights rally raising fears of violence, explained

Why an annual Lobby Day has resulted in a state of emergency and online calls for a civil war.

www.vox.com

And the commonwealth is closely divided on the issue of guns. Virginia’s recent political shift toward the Democratic Party elides just how divided the state is politically between Republican-leaning and less populated rural areas and Democratic-leaning urban and suburban regions in the north of the state and around Virginia’s flagship universities, the University of Virginia and Virginia Tech. The economic, cultural, and demographic differences between the two regional types are so extensive that, as the Virginia Mercury’s Bob Lewis put it last year, they make “Virginia feel more like two states than a commonwealth.”

Insightful, but not unexpected. Nature vs nurture?

To illustrate how these types play fast and loose ... because they are supposedly edumacated and feels this makes them superior beings ...

In response, gun rights advocates in Virginia have taken action. More than 80 counties in Virginia out of 95 have declared themselves “Second Amendment sanctuaries” where proposed gun control legislation would not be enforced despite passage at the state level under the argument that those laws would be unconstitutional. (Virginia Attorney General Mark Herring has argued that such resolutions have no legal force.)

This is well understood, but we see the same in things such as marijuana laws.

 

[Pitbull]

Has Trump bee removed from office yet, aka Really Impeached?

 

[cerebus]

Insightful, but not unexpected. Nature vs nurture?

To illustrate how these types play fast and loose ... because they are supposedly edumacated and feels this makes them superior beings ...



This is well understood, but we see the same in things such as marijuana laws.

I have no idea what you just said

 

[Tokolotshe]

Has Trump bee removed from office yet, aka Really Impeached?

Are we there yet?

 

[cerebus]

Has Trump bee removed from office yet, aka Really Impeached?

Hahaha, "really" impeached. He's been just as "really" impeached as the two other impeached presidents in US history.