Department of Mineral Resources and Energy has started the formal process of deregulating the price of petrol in SA.

[Vrotappel]

Easy to say "do away with the petrol attendants" - but then they are jobless and without income.
Off they go for UIF of govt grants - then the call goes out "stop paying the welfare leaches"

I say keep the attendants, I can afford the additional cost & fukk those who cant - exactly like those who say "can their jobs, I don't want to pay their salaries".

Whose self interest should prevail?

I believe when you can do something for yourself you should not pay someone else to do it. It is one of the reasons why our country is in the state it is.

 

[Gyre]

Illegal here.

Got to protect those petrol attendant jobs.

I've seen what people do on a daily basis trying to do things on their own, you'll have petrol pumps broken, people holding up queues and gas stations burnt down to the ground within a month

 

[Blue Shirt]

I've seen what people do on a daily basis trying to do things on their own, you'll have petrol pumps broken, people holding up queues and gas stations burnt down to the ground within a month

Strange thing, when I was a young man with my first car in the 1970's and into the 90s, we could pump our own fuel.

I did not see any filling stations burnt to the ground then, nor were things vandalised.

There were always a few attendants around to cater for those who were scared to get their own hands dirty, but not hordes of them.

 

[konfab]

Half arsed measures like price caps won't do a thing.

Just get rid of all taxes and levies on fuel and allow stations to sell it for as much or as little as they want.

 

[konfab]

I've seen what people do on a daily basis trying to do things on their own, you'll have petrol pumps broken, people holding up queues and gas stations burnt down to the ground within a month

 

[konfab]

This will most definitely only increase fuel price
You know those far away fuel stations you sometimes need to go to on your way to Stillbaai or some other obscure place.
Better take your vaseline with you on those trips.

Also I absolutely see local petrol stations increasing price at all kinds of opportune times.
Regulated fuel price was one of the few things our country got right.

Looking for decently priced fuel in the US and UK was a nightmare while I travelled there.

It is a terrible policy. The cost of regulated prices is that you do not see petrol stations in places where you need them. The far off places don't charge more for the hell of it, they charge more because of transport costs.

Everyone manages this with groceries. You shop at big centralised grocery stores, you pay less. You shop at the garage store around the corner, you pay more.

In the long term, regulation never works. If a small town's only petrol station is charging exorbitant rates, then there is an incentive for someone else to open up shop.

 

[Nineteeneightysix]

They should go the self service route.

Imagine the queue at a capitec atm. Now imagine that queue at Caltex. The same people can't even withdraw money will have to pump their own petrol.

 

[wingnut771]

Imagine the queue at a capitec atm. Now imagine that queue at Caltex. The same people can't even withdraw money will have to pump their own petrol.

I think it's safe to assume if they can drive a car, they can operate a capitec atm.

 

[AfricanTech]

I'm genuinely interested to see by how much the price of petrol would drop if you remove the cost of the petrol attendant.

 

[konfab]

I'm genuinely interested to see by how much the price of petrol would drop if you remove the cost of the petrol attendant.

It would drop substantially.

 

[konfab]

Imagine the queue at a capitec atm. Now imagine that queue at Caltex. The same people can't even withdraw money will have to pump their own petrol.

Most of the people queuing at Capitec ATMs are withdrawing their money so that their debt orders don't take their salary. I highly doubt that will be applicable to people dumping R1500 worth of dinosaur squeezings into their BMW.

 

[R13...]

Half arsed measures like price caps won't do a thing.

Just get rid of all taxes and levies on fuel and allow stations to sell it for as much or as little as they want.

In this country the former pricing model is much preferred by our greedy corporates. They don't do much competing. Agree they must remove all levies and taxes. They can tax the profits as must happen naturally.

 

[Arzy]

I'm genuinely interested to see by how much the price of petrol would drop if you remove the cost of the petrol attendant.

Not at liberty to share the current schedule but on an older one when the total margin was 192.10c/l staff-related costs were 75.78c/l

 

[Gyre]

I think it's safe to assume if they can drive a car, they can operate a capitec atm.

Have you seen how some people park?

 

[ToxicBunny]

Most of the people queuing at Capitec ATMs are withdrawing their money so that their debt orders don't take their salary. I highly doubt that will be applicable to people dumping R1500 worth of dinosaur squeezings into their BMW.

Trust me it would be... the vast majority of people struggle with an ATM regardless of how wealthy they are. A fuel pump is going to completely blow their little mind.

 

[konfab]

Trust me it would be... the vast majority of people struggle with an ATM regardless of how wealthy they are. A fuel pump is going to completely blow their little mind.

No need to struggle with that then. Have a small number of self service pumps for people with an IQ above 100, and attendants for the rest.

 

[Gyre]

People already want to moered each other at PnP parking, imagine people filling up their tanks on the day before a price hike

 

[ToxicBunny]

No need to struggle with that then. Have a small number of self service pumps for people with an IQ above 100, and attendants for the rest.

Oh yeah, that would work wonders...

All the numptys would just use whichever pump is free and fsck everything up.

 

[Oldfut]

Oh yeah, that would work wonders...

All the numptys would just use whichever pump is free and fsck everything up.

But at least it could provide practice for those migrating to the first world where you have to pump your own gas. Can be confusing to do that I tell you. Of course such people should also practice mowing their own lawns, washing, ironing and cleaning toilets etc etc unless they are very well off (compared to me anyway).

 

[porchrat]

Trust me it would be... the vast majority of people struggle with an ATM regardless of how wealthy they are. A fuel pump is going to completely blow their little mind.

Spent some time in the UK and had to pump my own fuel. It's not that difficult to figure out. Will take the average saffer a few minutes to get the basic idea. Petrol attendants are a waste of space.

They take less care with my vehicle than I would if I were allowed to just do the job myself. They love for example just shoving the air nozzle onto my tyre without blasting it once quickly first to clear any potential debri in there. Any grit in there needs to go straight into my valve. It's like a religious practice for them.