Desperately needing affordable ("slow") uncapped ADSL

[eremos]

Is there anybody looking at implementing 64kbps ADSL like AeroSat offers?

There are those of us that are more concerned about always on internet with no cap as opposed to being able to download the internet in 5 minutes.

Plus this could be marketed as a replacement to Diginet for a tenth of the price, I'm sure a lot of businesses would switch.

I realise this would have to come from IS and filter down to the ISPs, so is there anyone from IS on this forum to read this, or should I contact them with my plee?

Desperately South African,
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[albert123]

How much you looking to pay?

 

[eremos]

AeroSat ask R295, but I could be persuaded to go a bit higher. Say R400 / month?

 

[albert123]

sorry one more question. what is the reason you may want uncapped 64k, instead of say 30gb 192k ?

 

[linkinpark]

why dont you just go for aerosat ???

 

[albert123]

why dont you just go for aerosat ???

the R295 of Aerosat, does this include the actual satelite and satelite service? or just the bandwidth? this hardware can cost you a arm and a leg and it will propably work out more or less the same price per month as Diginet.

 

[eremos]

Aerosat is only available in Eastern Cape. As such I haven't investigated fully but I assumed they used standard ASDL on their SatDSL service.

I could live with 192/30GB, but I need international all the way through and some downloading (so OpenBrowse is out). If there's an alternative, I'd appreciate some direction.

 

[Napalm]

WickedWeasel offers uncapped 384K adsl from tomorrow (R879 excl vat). www.uncapped.co.za

 

[eremos]

WickedWeasel offers uncapped 384K adsl from tomorrow (R879 excl vat). www.uncapped.co.za

I noticed that as well, but it's still 3 times what I'm looking to pay/am paying now. I share the cost with someone and they won't go that high either.

I need to get a job.

 

[albert123]

Aerosat is only available in Eastern Cape. As such I haven't investigated fully but I assumed they used standard ASDL on their SatDSL service.

I could live with 192/30GB, but I need international all the way through and some downloading (so OpenBrowse is out). If there's an alternative, I'd appreciate some direction.

AeroSAT is a satelite based system, meaning it will work anywhere in southern africa. ADSL is a telkom product, aerosat is an alternative, like 3G and diginet also is alternatives. aerosat uses satelite dish to download info, it need some device to upload info otherwise how you gonna work? that device costs money, lots of money, i doubt aerosat will give you any sort of connection using satelite only for under R1000 per month. adsl is by far the cheapest

WickedWeasel offers uncapped 384K adsl from tomorrow (R879 excl vat). www.uncapped.co.za

if this is correct then that R879 will be the cheapest uncapped solution you will get. other than that, really what on earth you need so much bandw for at 64k?

 

[eremos]

I see, I completely misunderstood AeroSat's package (sort out your website! ).

What it basically comes down to is I'll be happy to give up some speed for a higher cap. So instead of 384k/5GB, I'd rather have for example 192k/10GB for the same price.


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[bwana]

AeroSAT is a satelite based system, meaning it will work anywhere in southern africa. ADSL is a telkom product, aerosat is an alternative, like 3G and diginet also is alternatives. aerosat uses satelite dish to download info, it need some device to upload info otherwise how you gonna work? that device costs money, lots of money, i doubt aerosat will give you any sort of connection using satelite only for under R1000 per month. adsl is by far the cheapest

Aerosat is a PE company - afaik they dont use satellite at all.

SatDSL presents Aerosat's response to the introduction of ADSL by Telkom Internet. SatDSL offers a 512Kbit CIR Backhaul speed on the Aerosat network, which provides a 512Kbit shared internet connection managed by advanced QOS rules and policies. All downloads are shared amongst the contention, however web browsing and email are shared separately thereby providing a much faster and streamlined browsing and email experience. Unlike most of the other South African copper based ADSL offerings, there is NO data limit on our connectivity, allowing you to download FAR more than 3Gigabytes of Data per month without fear of reduced service speeds.

They used to offer a wireless solution as well but I no longer find any direct mention of that on the site. I wonder if ICASA shut that down or if they rebranded it

EDIT - disregard - I cant tell anything 100% from such a vague website.

 

[terencevs]

This is how I look at it:

ADSL is broadband. 64K is not broadband speeds so thats not in line with Telkoms policies.

 

[albert123]

Aerosat is a PE company - afaik they dont use satellite at all. They used to offer a wireless solution as well but I no longer find any direct mention of that on the site. I wonder if ICASA shut that down or if they rebranded it

okay. i hear you but....

SatDSL
Broadband / always-on wireless solutions.

SatDSL presents Aerosat's response to the introduction of ADSL by Telkom Internet. SatDSL offers a 512Kbit CIR Backhaul speed on the Aerosat network, which provides a 512Kbit shared internet connection managed by advanced QOS rules and policies. All downloads are shared amongst the contention, however web browsing and email are shared separately thereby providing a much faster and streamlined browsing and email experience. Unlike most of the other South African copper based ADSL offerings, there is NO data limit on our connectivity, allowing you to download FAR more than 3Gigabytes of Data per month without fear of reduced service speeds.

as far as i know most ADSL lines from Telkom has "wires" meaning not wireless? they dont mention at all how you actually connect. but anybody with common sense will link AeroSAT to SATelite?

the price on their ADSL section says 3gb @ 512k = R279 pm. they no where mention that you need a telkom adsl line for this that will cost you extra. so i will put my head on a block you need a satelite upload/download system like Spacestream which costs thousands per month.

 

[bwana]

okay. i hear you but....



as far as i know most ADSL lines from Telkom has "wires" meaning not wireless? they dont mention at all how you actually connect. but anybody with common sense will link AeroSAT to SATelite?

the price on their ADSL section says 3gb @ 512k = R279 pm. they no where mention that you need a telkom adsl line for this that will cost you extra. so i will put my head on a block you need a satelite upload/download system like Spacestream which costs thousands per month.

Unless they mean satellite as in remote - like a satellite branch of a company?

The wireless solution they used to offer involved them mounting transmitters/recievers on Vodacom towers so you had to be in sight of a tower.

I wouldnt put anything on the block wrt that site

 

[albert123]

Unless they mean satellite as in remote - like a satellite branch of a company?

The wireless solution they used to offer involved them mounting transmitters/recievers on Vodacom towers so you had to be in sight of a tower.

I wouldnt put anything on the block wrt that site

lol well putting transmitters/recievers on vodacom towers doesnt come at R279 per month.

 

[Syndyre]

AeroSAT is a satelite based system, meaning it will work anywhere in southern africa.

They may call it satellite but its actually just a WISP that connects you over a standard 802.11 network with an antenna on your roof etc. At least it was when I had it a few years ago.

 

[Syndyre]

They used to offer a wireless solution as well but I no longer find any direct mention of that on the site. I wonder if ICASA shut that down or if they rebranded it

AFAIK they just rebranded it to satADSL. I think the "sat" part is probably just a way to market it to the general public.

 

[eremos]

Is what I'm asking for unreasonable? I have no idea how much bandwidth actually costs ISPs, but if uncapped 384 can be offered at R879ex then surely someone can sell a slower connection (I don't care that 192 can't strictly be considered broadband and I'll sign to that effect, and I'm not a gamer so I don't mind satellite) with, say, a 15GB cap for R300 or R400?

Am I the only person here who would go for that?

 

[Nameite]

I would go for that too~ Uncapped 128k adsl for like R400, would be perfect. Use ur webafrica prepaid if u need the fast connection then switch at night and use 128k uncapped for whatever else~
But too bad this aint happening here at all~