Despite challenges, SA much better than it was 29 years ago: Mashatile

rh1 said:
Agree, you dont suddenly get a wake up call, why did he not raise his voice earlier.
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The guy probably got an opportunity that requires him not to be a member of a political party, especially the ANC.

He is probably not as rich as some people think, I don't recall him as a Minister or someone big in government, he probably needs to make for lost time.
 
29 years ago we never had internet or mobile phones or computers, of course things are better, but not as the same pace as the rest of the world - ifiots
 
TheChamp said:
But you apartheid supporters don't even have enough self respect to make sure your claims are actually correct before posting them on MyBb.
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Ummmm where do/did I say I support apartheid?

I don't, but I definitely won't support the anc or eff, I suppose you regard that as being racist, whereas I regard it as being honest, having integrity, ethics, pride and some brains.
 
TheChamp said:
But you apartheid supporters don't even have enough self respect to make sure your claims are actually correct before posting them on MyBb.
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Apartheid supporter, is that all you have? LOL.
I was born under apartheid and experienced it during my teen years. I, for one, never accepted it. My earliest thoughts of it was that it was utter BS and it never sat well with me how they treated people of colour. So you need to really think before you call people "apartheid supporters". But I guess that thinking is not your strongest suite, because it takes a special kind of stupid to be this loyal to the ANC or any political party for that matter.
 
PaulMurkin said:
Apartheid supporter, is that all you have? LOL.
I was born under apartheid and experienced it during my teen years. I, for one, never accepted it. My earliest thoughts of it was that it was utter BS and it never sat well with me how they treated people of colour. So you need to really think before you call people "apartheid supporters". But I guess that thinking is not your strongest suite, because it takes a special kind of stupid to be this loyal to the ANC or any political party for that matter.
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It is knee jerk for chumpy; criticise the NAC and you are an apartheid supporter; the Mbeki playbook simplified for 30%'ers. Don't take the troll bait.
 
rh1 said:
See if you were really as smart as you believe, you would know not to judge the majority by what the minority did. So according to your logic, only whites were never corrupt, never did vote rigging, never stole or murder etc.
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even whites are corrupted, at least they can maintain a functioning country, but not black anc government.
 
ITT: no one who was banned, tortured or murdered for being or loving a brown person.
 
SlinkyMike said:
ITT: no one who was banned, tortured or murdered for being or loving a brown person.
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The Tutu Revenge Commission was only able to blame apartheid for 7000 deaths over forty years but Mkeki killed some 330 000 HIV victims to create a market for Manto's garlic & beetroot muti.

Julius Malema claimed in 2018 that Public healthcare services were better during apartheid than under the ANC government and, since then, I recall several prominent black academics and public figures making camparisons between apartheid and ANC misrule.

7 Feb 2015. Things are very bad in South Africa. When the scourge of apartheid was finally smashed to pieces in 1994, the country seemed to have a bright future ahead of it. Eight years later, in 2002, 60 percent of South Africans said life had been better under apartheid. Hard to believe — but that’s how bad things were in 2002. And now they’re even worse.

When apartheid ended, the life expectancy in South Africa was 64 — the same as in Turkey and Russia. Now it’s 56, the same as in Somalia. There are 132.4 rapes per 100,000 people per year, which is by far the highest in the world: Botswana is in second with 93, Sweden in third with 64; no other country exceeds 32.
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FULL TEXT HERE: https://www.nationalreview.com/2015/02/end-south-africa-josh-gelernter/
 
RonSwanson said:
Equality!

https://twitter.com/x/status/1731927212331303208
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I am all for equality. What he is describing is equity, or equality of outcomes when social justice is applied.

That is why I think the only practical way to address systemic poverty is through a negative income tax. Everyone gets an equal share, and there is almost no way for it . You don't need social grants + housing grant + child grant + pensioner grant. complications that are just open for corruption.

All studies on this show that is reduces poverty and stimulates economic activity. Instead we get massive departments that run inefficient programs that primarily exist for the benefit of those that operate them.

You can probably run a national negative income tax scheme with less than 50 additional people at SARS. They already have most of the systems and processes for it. They just need to add 10-20mil people to the Taxpayer database.

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