Dis-Chem not allowed to hire anymore white people for now

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Where do you get all this straw from...you seem to specialize in these types of ""arguments".
You seem to have trouble following a conversation. He made the leap so I was using his absurd logic. And the Nazi thing was marine which you also seem to have missed. Typical.
 

Vrotappel

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This is the the stated and enforced BEE policy for all JSE listed companies. They have no choice in this matter. They face ongoing fines for non compliance. Don't blame the companies for what is an ANC racist policy. You should be waging this war at the ballot box. Punishing the employees of Dischem for what is an ANC policy is not really fair.
It is time for big business to stand up to the ANC.
 

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Guys, here’s the problem with BEE: it never ends. No one has quantified the economic damage of Apartheid and set a “reparations amount” to be paid (how could you?), and a value for each BEE hire. Or if it’s a total percentage of the workforce, how many jobs exactly are we talking about, and how many currently-employed white people will need to be fired / frozen out over time? Never mind the fact that the younger white South Africans affected now are being blamed for the sins of their parents.

We want a South Africa free from racial bias and opportunities for all … right? Didn’t we all agree that was the dream? We’re not going to get there with BEE in tow.

If the goal of BEE is to return all South Africa to economic prosperity, we can all agree that’s an impossible goal. There aren’t enough jobs, period. Nor will there ever be in South Africa. How can we achieve economic growth in an environment where we don’t trust each other and where government is forcing us which players to pick onto our teams?

Yes this Dischem thing sucks, but it’s the discussion happening all over South African boardrooms every day. I don’t blame Dischem for wanting that sweet sweet government tender money, or the other carrots government had laid. I blame them for the tone of that letter and its implications for South Africans like me. Personally I will make a conscious effort from now to not support Dischem.
 

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Well, looking at that letter I think they should appoint those blacks anyway, they will grow into their roles, just like the CEO.
This guy? One of the ten richest people in SA I believe. Bending to ANC policies seems to work for him.

 

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Imagine if there was no lekker BEE. The likes of rvZA, Vrotappel and Ron Swanson would finally be able to find jobs. The economy would be rescued due to their brilliance and we'd all live happily ever after.
LOL as a start there will be no load shedding, close to that lower unemployment, economic growth.

But then the racists will hang on to their laws as long as they believe it hurts whites. Pity they have no idea that it huts the poorest.
 

Vrotappel

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Guys, here’s the problem with BEE: it never ends. No one has quantified the economic damage of Apartheid and set a “reparations amount” to be paid (how could you?), and a value for each BEE hire. Or if it’s a total percentage of the workforce, how many jobs exactly are we talking about, and how many currently-employed white people will need to be fired / frozen out over time? Never mind the fact that the younger white South Africans affected now are being blamed for the sins of their parents.

We want a South Africa free from racial bias and opportunities for all … right? Didn’t we all agree that was the dream? We’re not going to get there with BEE in tow.

If the goal of BEE is to return all South Africa to economic prosperity, we can all agree that’s an impossible goal. There aren’t enough jobs, period. Nor will there ever be in South Africa. How can we achieve economic growth in an environment where we don’t trust each other and where government is forcing us which players to pick onto our teams?

Yes this Dischem thing sucks, but it’s the discussion happening all over South African boardrooms every day. I don’t blame Dischem for wanting that sweet sweet government tender money, or the other carrots government had laid. I blame them for the tone of that letter and its implications for South Africans like me. Personally I will make a conscious effort from now to not support Dischem.
Blacks will be victims forever. Just look at the USA.
 

Foxhound5366

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Blacks will be victims forever. Just look at the USA.
This is exactly the sort of “us and them” mentality that BEE entrenches in South Africa and which pisses all over the dream of a rainbow nation. I prefer a South Africa where we can all just get along together, do the best damn job we can do, get employed based on merit, and move into the future rather than stay mired in the past.
 

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If only blacks knew how to run a country we would not have needed BEE.
You think whites know how to run a country? Some whites got a chance and their solution was Apartheid.

We ALL need to move beyond our racial biases, or you’ll get stuck playing an unwinnable game with rules noone wants.
 

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This is exactly the sort of “us and them” mentality that BEE entrenches in South Africa and which pisses all over the dream of a rainbow nation. I prefer a South Africa where we can all just get along together, do the best damn job we can do, get employed based on merit, and move into the future rather than stay mired in the past.
Yeah. This basic tribalism is exactly what keeps the ANC in power.

Blame all black people for the decisions of a white CEO. Completely logical.
 

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This is exactly the sort of “us and them” mentality that BEE entrenches in South Africa and which pisses all over the dream of a rainbow nation. I prefer a South Africa where we can all just get along together, do the best damn job we can do, get employed based on merit, and move into the future rather than stay mired in the past.
Then go complain to the non-whites who are stopping that.
Last I checked it's not wit ous making the racist policies. It's exclusively non-whites in government who are.
 

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Anyone who thinks all these race based laws and policies are good for our country is delusional.
And yet which political parties take a stand against BEE? Even opposition parties are mostly mum on the topic. In fact the DA as I recall is actively in favour of it. So yeah…
 

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Then go complain to the non-whites who are stopping that.
Last I checked it's not wit ous making the racist policies. It's exclusively non-whites in government who are.
Non-whites? Which ones specifically? Anyone who can’t pass the comb test? And other scientific measures like that? Eish. You want people to agree with you, you’ll want to come across a bit more moderate.
 

Vorastra

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Anyone who thinks all these race based laws and policies are good for our country is delusional.
The ones who do seem to think they're winning something over the white man.

Let's look at the achievements.

Electricity cuts.
Water cuts.
Constant widespread corruption.
Falling economy.
A Rand that's worth less every passing second.
Massive unemployment.

These are the things they think are wins while they make fun of wit ous complaining about blatant racism.
 

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You think whites know how to run a country? Some whites got a chance and their solution was Apartheid.

We ALL need to move beyond our racial biases, or you’ll get stuck playing an unwinnable game with rules noone wants.
Here my opinion, as being neither black not white. Dischem is in business to make money, and to be a successful business in this country at this time, means that it's management team is a competent one.

Here's what bothers me though, Apartheid was designed largely to keep other races in check because of an expectation, that if given complete freedom, they would become a threat to security, safety, and economic progress.

Yet, this is exactly what has happened since Apartheid ended, probably on a scale greater than anyone would have expected.

This is the real tragedy!
 
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