wingnut771
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Yeah, trust is earned.I disagree. Respect is given. If the person proves to be unworthy then it is withdrawn.
Yeah, trust is earned.I disagree. Respect is given. If the person proves to be unworthy then it is withdrawn.
and bribed expectedYeah, trust is earned.
in a consequence free environment, yes, bribes expectedand bribed expected
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Yes. I hated school for it, the in doctrine nature of it all, totally sucked, if you consider the apartheid curriculum taught, general intolerance to other races, I mean we us kids at the time were blissfully unaware of the general strife in our white suburban idyllic lifestyle at the time. Racism was subtly taught and encouraged,. In the general sense why I hate humanity as a whole. Knowing what I know now, I wouldn't wish it on any person let alone a defenseless child. As a child you had little or no rights,Getting moered taught you consequences, it's not really about respect imho. Are you a basket case today because of this "abuse"?
Yes. I hated school for it, the in doctrine nature of it all, totally sucked, if you consider the apartheid curriculum taught, general intolerance to other races, I mean we us kids at the time were blissfully unaware of the general strife in our white suburban idyllic lifestyle at the time. Racism was subtly taught and encouraged,. In the general sense why I hate humanity as a whole. Knowing what I know now, I wouldn't wish it on any person let alone a defenseless child. As a child you had little or no rights,
If you were to argue social decay as a result of lack of corporal punishment you are pretty naive to think that is what kept society in check. "A Free societal existence" is but a mere blip in our long recorded history, but then again is it real, and that is an entirely different philosophical debate. Just have to look at recorded history just how well punishment worked, revolution, overthrowing of kings/queens, tribes ect. Has punishment in any way or form being a deterrent to dissension in history.
Working on the assumption it worked out okay for you, the person next to you must have had similar experience. I didn't turn to crime so punishment must have worked. I didn't turn into a drug addict or alcoholic or serial killer or wife beater or a pedophile the punishment I received as a developing and impressionable young mind must have worked. ? What warped reality do you live in to not see that type of negative re-enforcement doesn't work never worked and will never work.
You want to tell me there is literally NO other way to deal with consequences other than the guise of actual physical harm/abuse or threat thereof. Is it perfectly acceptable for a teacher to grab you by the scruff of your shirt because you didn't do your homework, not even speaking of verbal abuse you could endure at the hands of an educator. Yeah, no according to you our apartheid school system was just peachy. TF it was. Your reality check, have you cashed it yet ?, it might bounce at this rate.
So yeah it fked me up enough that I have a distaste and hatred for any educator of that time.
I couldn't make this shyte up if I wanted to
Cliff notes
Punishment can cause mental illness
Slightly more likely to commit crime
Could stunt developmental growth
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Physical punishment of children: lessons from 20 years of research
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
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Surprising Facts About Spanking and Corporal Punishment
Corporal punishment remains a hot topic of debate. Here are the facts about spanking and how it influences children.www.verywellfamily.com
First page is littered with studies on the subject that proofs you pretty much naive enough to believe it works.
https://gprivate.com/61d19
BEE is an enabler.Maybe, but I don't think there was a real lack of qualified non white people. Cadre deployment, corruption and incompetence in the ANC happens with or without BEE
Just look who is running education in the country. Party connections under the guise of AA got them that jobs.I'm not denying that, I even said as much - in fact this conversation about education started with me saying it is the biggest failing of the ANC. So get off your high horse. I'm asking for evidence that AA or BEE specifically is what is responsible for the state of education here. Can you provide such evidence or not?
No, only that your partner has teeth and you klapped them at the wrong time.If I unzip does that also prove I'm Jewish and not white?
Are you saying the only true Jewish tribe is from the Cape Flats?No, only that your partner has teeth and you klapped them at the wrong time.![]()
I don’t know what schools you went to but of the 6 schools that I attended, this never happened where the teacher was a psycho, and HOD always dished out the discipline in a professional manner. So I think you are in the tiny minority of people who think this is bad. Did you go to boys town or something?Yes. I hated school for it, the in doctrine nature of it all, totally sucked, if you consider the apartheid curriculum taught, general intolerance to other races, I mean we us kids at the time were blissfully unaware of the general strife in our white suburban idyllic lifestyle at the time. Racism was subtly taught and encouraged,. In the general sense why I hate humanity as a whole. Knowing what I know now, I wouldn't wish it on any person let alone a defenseless child. As a child you had little or no rights,
If you were to argue social decay as a result of lack of corporal punishment you are pretty naive to think that is what kept society in check. "A Free societal existence" is but a mere blip in our long recorded history, but then again is it real, and that is an entirely different philosophical debate. Just have to look at recorded history just how well punishment worked, revolution, overthrowing of kings/queens, tribes ect. Has punishment in any way or form being a deterrent to dissension in history.
Working on the assumption it worked out okay for you, the person next to you must have had similar experience. I didn't turn to crime so punishment must have worked. I didn't turn into a drug addict or alcoholic or serial killer or wife beater or a pedophile the punishment I received as a developing and impressionable young mind must have worked. ? What warped reality do you live in to not see that type of negative re-enforcement doesn't work never worked and will never work.
You want to tell me there is literally NO other way to deal with consequences other than the guise of actual physical harm/abuse or threat thereof. Is it perfectly acceptable for a teacher to grab you by the scruff of your shirt because you didn't do your homework, not even speaking of verbal abuse you could endure at the hands of an educator. Yeah, no according to you our apartheid school system was just peachy. TF it was. Your reality check, have you cashed it yet ?, it might bounce at this rate.
So yeah it fked me up enough that I have a distaste and hatred for any educator of that time.
I couldn't make this shyte up if I wanted to
Cliff notes
Punishment can cause mental illness
Slightly more likely to commit crime
Could stunt developmental growth
![]()
Physical punishment of children: lessons from 20 years of research
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
![]()
Surprising Facts About Spanking and Corporal Punishment
Corporal punishment remains a hot topic of debate. Here are the facts about spanking and how it influences children.www.verywellfamily.com
First page is littered with studies on the subject that proofs you pretty much naive enough to believe it works.
https://gprivate.com/61d19
Again with the my mates were fine, everyone else must have been fine as well argument. People even had different reactions to the army and the border wars, it is fking well documented. Denial isn't just a river. Links provided is based on studies that show that corporal punishment had a negative effect and sometimes the opposite effect. The end of the cane was never the answer was a short term solution. Have you considered, different personalities, different upbringings, different set of conditions. Is your testosterone driven masculinity blinding you that much.Nothing wrong with me and my mates. All became successful and well adjusted without landing in jail. None resent the cane, observe its influence on their life attitude of actions having consequences and being nice to people..
Why do they discriminate against guys with hair?
I disagree. I think the biggest downfall of SA is the lack of proper education from primary all through to tertiary education. If people were properly educated and qualified the economic effects of BEE and AA would be insignificant. The ANC has made a lot of mistakes but the biggest, imo, is not focusing large amounts of money and resources on educating the population of this country properly.
Oh the irony in your statement. You are aware that a minority group in this country quite successfully oppressed and essentially made racism a law. You and your buddies must be the same people who think apartheid was a good thing and had it good. How about you check your white privilege there buddy.I don’t know what schools you went to but of the 6 schools that I attended, this never happened where the teacher was a psycho, and HOD always dished out the discipline in a professional manner. So I think you are in the tiny minority of people who think this is bad. Did you go to boys town or something?
And yet here you are claiming that racism is perfectly fine when a majority group does it.Oh the irony in your statement. You are aware that a minority group in this country quite successfully oppressed and essentially made racism a law. You and your buddies must be the same people who think apartheid was a good thing and had it good. How about you check your white privilege there buddy.