Dis-Chem not allowed to hire anymore white people for now

JuliusSeizure

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Again with the my mates were fine, everyone else must have been fine as well argument. People even had different reactions to the army and the border wars, it is fking well documented. Denial isn't just a river. Links provided is based on studies that show that corporal punishment had a negative effect and sometimes the opposite effect. The end of the cane was never the answer was a short term solution. Have you considered, different personalities, different upbringings, different set of conditions. Is your testosterone driven masculinity blinding you that much.

Corporal punishment is not the answer.

In some Asian countries, they don't use it but the kids are pretty well behaved. They have their own issues but quite frankly respect to elders and politeness is on point compared to SA and the Western world where quite frankly, the behaviour of kids is out of control.

It's not rare for kids to insult teachers nowadays and I've even heard of cases where they physically attack teachers.
 

wingnut771

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Oh the irony in your statement. You are aware that a minority group in this country quite successfully oppressed and essentially made racism a law. You and your buddies must be the same people who think apartheid was a good thing and had it good. How about you check your white privilege there buddy.
What does that have to do with corporal punishment? So far you're the only one that experienced "abuse". Why isn't this thread full of other stories of getting dragged by the scruff of your neck and beaten in class. There were standards back then.
 

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Corporal punishment is not the answer.

In some Asian countries, they don't use it but the kids are pretty well behaved. They have their own issues but quite frankly respect to elders and politeness is on point compared to SA and the Western world where quite frankly, the behaviour of kids is out of control.

It's not rare for kids to insult teachers nowadays and I've even heard of cases where they physically attack teachers.
It's not "the" answer, but it sure as hell is one of them, simple and effective. They banned it across the world, now look what's happening. Snowflakes everywhere and kids with no boundaries.
 

JuliusSeizure

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Why isn't this thread full of other stories of getting dragged by the scruff of your neck and beaten in class. There were standards back then.

The beatings that used to be dished out mentally messed up a lot of people. The reason why people don't speak about it is because they were taught they they are "sissies" and not "being a man" by doing so.

You also had the teachers that took advantage of their privilege to inflict pain and some used it as a means to vent their own problems from home onto the kids.

Again as I said, respect is not an issue in many Asian countries which do not use corporal punishment.

I started schooling at a time when it started being phased out. So we never got beaten but I got clapped several times in primary school. By the time I was in high school, it never happened though I recall it happening in high school a few times (usually to the very problematic and annoying kids) when a teacher lost it.
 

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At least one person here thinks it's the banning of corporal punishment! I personally think it's just greed and corruption and incompetence, which happens irrespective of BEE or AA. BEE can be implemented with hiring properly qualified people, that's not the problem. BEE and cadre deployment or corruption are not the same thing
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Try again. Education is the largest item on the budget. There is lots of money going into it.

The biggest downfall of South Africa is sadly very simple. The people of South Africa, namely black people, voted for and will continue to vote for the ANC. The South Africa you see every day with the murder, rape, corruption, theft and incompetence is the South Africa that a largely black electorate voted for and therefore wanted.

Got a question for you though: should all ethnic groups be proportionately represented across all levels of society?

You are working on the assumption, there was no murder, rape or corruption or any white collar crime, and only when we magically transitioned to a democratic South Africa there was an uptick, yeah we are more aware of it thanks to news reporting and the internet ect.


Declining murder rate from a 1990's high what voodoo magic is this.



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The beatings that used to be dished out mentally messed up a lot of people. The reason why people don't speak about it is because they were taught they they are "sissies" and not "being a man" by doing so.

You also had the teachers that took advantage of their privilege to inflict pain and some used it as a means to vent their own problems from home onto the kids.

Again as I said, respect is not an issue in many Asian countries which do not use corporal punishment.

I started schooling at a time when it started being phased out. So we never got beaten but I got clapped several times in primary school. By the time I was in high school, it never happened though I recall it happening in high school a few times (usually to the very problematic and annoying kids) when a teacher lost it.
Like I said, there were standards, HOD did it in a controlled professional manner. If that didn't happen then there is a case to be made.

As for Asian countries, are these the same countries that you can't chew gum or cross the street in the wrong places or did they have military dictators running the show? Some Asian countries also believe you will offend the whole family ancestors if you do something bad. I had a colleague leave his cellphone on the train in Japan. The next day he caught the same train and his phone was still there on the seat.
 

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You are working on the assumption, there was no murder, rape or corruption or any white collar crime, and only when we magically transitioned to a democratic South Africa there was an uptick, yeah we are more aware of it thanks to news reporting and the internet ect.


Declining murder rate from a 1990's high what voodoo magic is this.



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What's your point? Tribal/political killings where/are a thing. Anyway, your 2019 stat isn't some kind of achievement and is still head and shoulders above all the other countries.
 

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It's not "the" answer, but it sure as hell is one of them, simple and effective. They banned it across the world, now look what's happening. Snowflakes everywhere and kids with no boundaries.

Okay then provide irrefutable evidence to the contrary ?. I will wait ?
 

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You are working on the assumption, there was no murder, rape or corruption or any white collar crime, and only when we magically transitioned to a democratic South Africa there was an uptick, yeah we are more aware of it thanks to news reporting and the internet ect.


Declining murder rate from a 1990's high what voodoo magic is this.



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Why have you specifically chosen 1990, when you should know that 1980 through 1992 there were other factors at play? Removing that anomaly, is the trend up or down?
 

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You are working on the assumption, there was no murder, rape or corruption or any white collar crime, and only when we magically transitioned to a democratic South Africa there was an uptick

How do we know this? The NP were not the most honest when it came to reporting on things so much so that they felt a need to censor the media even more than the ANC does today.
 

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How do we know this? The NP were not the most honest when it came to reporting on things so much so that they felt a need to censor the media even more than the ANC does today.
That's the understatement of the year.

Also, I'm not aware there is any real media censorship in South Africa today. Political, I should say... Obviously some things are still deemed illegal
 

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You are working on the assumption, there was no murder, rape or corruption or any white collar crime, and only when we magically transitioned to a democratic South Africa there was an uptick, yeah we are more aware of it thanks to news reporting and the internet ect.


Declining murder rate from a 1990's high what voodoo magic is this.



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My brother in Christ.


Its almost as if a group of people deliberately embarked on a campaign of violence in the country:
Revolutionary violence has become part of the arsenal of our people. It is imperative that all classes and strata, especially our workers and the rural population, should become part of the combat forces of our revolution. Our youth should not be left to shoulder this burden alone. This is the true significance of our call to the people: Every patriot a combatant - every combatant a patriot!

We are witnessing today the masses steadily taking to arms; we are in the midst of death-defying deeds where combat groups, supported by the people, are erecting barricades, stringing barbed wire across roads, digging defence trenches, driving enemy forces into death traps, raining petrol bombs against armoured vehicles, arming themselves by dispossessing the enemy of his weapons, ridding our townships of informers and collaborators, eliminating enemy personnel.

https://omalley.nelsonmandela.org/o...q/03lv02424/04lv02730/05lv02918/06lv02923.htm

That little line there was the ANC's justification to murder any black opposition to apartheid. That was the reason why the murder rate was so high.
 

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Not posting in News section as not confirmed (yet), but an alleged letter from Dis-Chem's CEO is making waves on social media .... Has been shared by some credible sources though.

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Legit?

Mod note: confirmation

Black employees are just a vanity project for Dischem.
Dischem only need black people to get to the right ratio in order for Dischem to make more profit.

Instead of training, upskilling and developing their black employees, they'd rather employe more low level black employees to make up for the newly appointed white manager....

Training, upskilling and developing their black employees will eat away at that profit and Dischem cannot allow that!

Welcome to the new-old South Africa.
 

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Authenticity?
Ja, the paper is real, not the text? honestly, who would print out this "letter"? They should have kept it private, as a internal mail.
My BS meter is way past 100%
Whoever leaked it wanted to expose the racism going at Dischem. Keeping it secret would be hiding this racism....do you want to hide the racism at Dischem?
 

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So 30 pages, Have we found out if its real or not? I need to go get some cream of rice and pre workout.
 

JuliusSeizure

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That's the understatement of the year.

Also, I'm not aware there is any real media censorship in South Africa today. Political, I should say... Obviously some things are still deemed illegal

It's quite shocking that some here who rant about how the media today is not to be trusted actually blindly believe all pro-Apartheid propaganda.
 
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