Dis-Chem not allowed to hire anymore white people for now

[Mike Hoxbig]

At least 3 Jews there, so 50% minority representation.

They all look the same to me...

 

[The Voice]

You are working on the assumption, there was no murder, rape or corruption or any white collar crime, and only when we magically transitioned to a democratic South Africa there was an uptick, yeah we are more aware of it thanks to news reporting and the internet ect.


Declining murder rate from a 1990's high what voodoo magic is this.

Homicide rate in 1990 vs. 2019

Homicide rates are measured as the number of deaths from homicide per 100,000 individuals in a given population. Countries below the dashed line have seen an increase in homicide rate since 1990, those above the line have seen a decrease.

ourworldindata.org

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Oh look, the early 90’s. That wonderful time in our history when ANC and IFP supporters were killing each other in their thousands. Wonder if that could’ve cause that little spike?

 

[TheChamp]

What happens if they don't pay it?

Probably get a court order to compel you to pay it, if you don't get held in contempt of court and get your behind thrown in jail.

But even besides a that, just to be seen not to be compliant and even resisting it will be a problem for the company, the reputation al damage will be a problem.

 

[wingnut771]

I haven't excused it. I've explicitly stated that I don't agree with it. Skin colour should never be a factor in anything.

I simply feel one's ire should be directed at the people setting the racist policy in the first place.

Companies are well placed to stand up to this crap aswell.

 

[LazyLion]

What happens if they don't pay it?

BEE preferred companies refuse to do business with you.

 

[wingnut771]

Probably get a court order to compel you to pay it, if you don't get held in contempt of court and get your behind thrown in jail.

But even besides a that, just to be seen not to be compliant and even resisting it will be a problem for the company.

Probably not aswell.

 

[konfab]

They all look the same to me...

OY VEY

 

[TheChamp]

Companies are well placed to stand up to this crap aswell.

But do they want to, what's the incentive?

 

[The Voice]

They all look the same to me...

 

[wingnut771]

But do they want to, what's the incentive?

Doing the right thing.

 

[BBSA]

The ooms can always try one of the smaller all white pharmacies.

It is not just the ooms who is against racial discrimination.

The younger generation is also very bitter about it, as they had nothing to do with apartheid.

 

[porchrat]

Companies are well placed to stand up to this crap aswell.

I doubt all companies in South African can afford to lose 10% of their annual turnover indefinitely. Maybe some can. If they can, and choose to do so, great for them. I will do my best to support them in their protest if they make it publicly known that is why they are not compliant.

However I doubt most companies can afford to do this. They're as trapped as the rest of us are under these policies.

 

[TheChamp]

Doing the right thing.

That's the problem right there, their business is to make money and the right thing they have to do is the right thing according to the laws and regulations.

So what you think is the right thing is probably irrelevant to them. They are businesses not the embodiment of righteousness.

 

[BBSA]

Yes, but then you are cutting off your funding...

JSE is not the only stock exchange....

 

[Neuk_]

Nothing new unfortunately, companies have been doing this or similar for many, many, many years, not as 'publicly' though. What is more infuriating is the complete double standards from the likes of 'black' Twitter, racism against blacks was bad but against whites is not only acceptable, it is encouraged

Companies are well placed to stand up to this crap aswell.

I am trying to push my wife's family business to be more international so they can get rid of the BEE nonsense that they have to go through and they can leave the current contract they have to supply Eskom behind as well. My ex-FIL built up his Australia and Middle East business to the point where when local companies and government institutions starting banging the BEE compliance drum, he told them that if they want his product, they can buy it but he will be doing zero BEE, absolutely ****ing nothing.

 

[konfab]

I haven't excused it. I've explicitly stated that I don't agree with it. Skin colour should never be a factor in anything.

I simply feel one's ire should be directed at the people setting the racist policy in the first place.

Absolutely not. Noncompliance destroys bureaucratic systems.

Look at Etolls. They were as legal as BEE to pay, yet everyone ignored them. Too many people ignoring them made it impossible for the system to enforce.
Same thing with TV licences. It is the law to pay your TV licence, yet ***somehow*** people don't give a fuk unless you are buying from a shop.
And then we have the taxi industry, which the government has attempted and failed to control many many times.

Imagine if 20% of the largest companies on the JSE decided that they were just going to "lie" about their employee's race. (There isn't any lie because there isn't any legal definiton of race in SA). All those companies then don't have to participate in BEE fronting, so they get better rates for their suppliers. What is the auditor going to do? Demand a blood sample from every employee in a business to prove their "blackness", for a company of 10000s of employees?

 

[wizardofid]

minority in the people being abused, not a racial class dumbass.

Did I mention black or white ?

Did I stutter ?

I said you were likely to argue with cases of abuse being a minority makes corporal punishment acceptable according to you and your logic, completely ignoring the studies that show differently and most cases of abuse go completely unreported as shown by the link provided. Speaking of minority, you haven't provided a single piece of evidence of pro corporal punishment studies, unironically I am willing to bet, not a single one will list the cons and only the pros of it. Majority is against it, go figure and why is that. ?

Speaking of race, unironically studies show black children were/is more likely to suffer abuse and beatings in general

You have only ever argued it "works" based on your personal experience, completely ignored the facts that show otherwise, and I am the dumbass, who would have thought empirical studies that show otherwise would make me a dumbass. I find that rather presumptuous and a common theme on this forum when someone has a difference of opinion that they can physically back up in most cases, studies and evidence, often being flatly ignored to serve their own purposes and agenda.

It is almost always moronically one sided most of the time, that people like you with their warped reality aren't able to see past their own noses and willing to only accept their imaginary colluded narrative above empirical evidence that is down played and most often called a bias viewpoint, with attempts of this new thing called cancel culture, always finding new angles to argue and completely glazing over important points that don't fit your narrative with your convoluted ideology and reality no one person is right more than me, because my personal experience trumps global impressions of humanity as a whole on all subject matters.

I continually question ironically the notion that charles darwin was wrong, and that some lesser life forms currently inhabiting this plain of existence is devolving right before my eyes and the utter dissapointment that it will roughly take another 4 billions years to completely snuff out this solar system we call home.

 

[LCBXX]

I still don't understand everyone's gripe.

Dischem has not attained their required ANC Government mandated racist BEE compliance.

It needs to appoint and promote black ZA'ns to achieve this. Now people are angry at Dischem instead of the ANC Government.

What, are you expecting Dischem to act in defiance and have your taxes spent by the ANC Government to fsck Dischem over?

 

[Mike Hoxbig]

JSE is not the only stock exchange....

The brand is familiar to those who invest on the JSE. They could list on a foreign exchange, but run the risk of being an unknown quantity...

 

[GrootVoet]

I love how most of you armchair idiots don't even bother to vote.... but you will boycott Dischem....

I have voted in every election since 1990.