Dis-Chem not allowed to hire anymore white people for now

[Ponderer]

I'm amused that a scrape on the knee is compared to murder.

Are you therefore amused by those that complain about AA and BEE?

 

[Gyre]

Are you therefore amused by those that complain about AA and BEE?

You're missing the point as usual, we all agree that racial discrimination is wrong, the only split is if it should exist at all when their were injustices and how it is implemented if it were to exist.

I'm amused by people that are employed thinking BEE is the worst thing ever.

 

[wbot]

I'm amused by people that are employed thinking BEE is the worst thing ever.

Yeah BBBEeEE is only completely destroying SA. A destroyed country isn't that bad.

 

[Gyre]

Yeah BBBEeEE is only completely destroying SA. A destroyed country isn't that bad.

Corruption and incompetence is destroying SA, under the guise of AA

 

[Ponderer]

You're missing the point as usual,

I don't think so.

we all agree that racial discrimination is wrong,

Good.

the only split is if it should exist at all

Are you arguing that it should exist?

when their were injustices

Yes, there were.

and how it is implemented if it were to exist.

Two wrongs don't make a right.

I'm amused by people that are employed thinking BEE is the worst thing ever.

And I'm amused by your duplicity.
You claim you are against racial discrimination, and in the same breath you try to justify it because "it's not so bad".

The ANC is destroying this country with their AA and BEE policies, but it's not so bad.

 

[Ponderer]

Corruption and incompetence is destroying SA, under the guise of AA

So the ANC is destroying the country, but AA and BEE has nothing to do with it.

 

[wingnut771]

Corruption and incompetence is destroying SA, under the guise of AA

How do you fix that?

 

[Bewlen]

Corruption and incompetence is destroying SA, under the guise of AA

What do you mean "under the guise of AA", genuinely curious.

 

[Ponderer]

What do you mean "under the guise of AA", genuinely curious.

Yeah - I would also like to know.

 

[RedViking]

Corruption and incompetence is destroying SA, under the guise of AA

There is no scenario where BBBEE will ever be able to build the country. It is by design destined for failure.

 

[Gyre]

How do you fix that?

Get rid of the criminals and the ANC enablers, might as well remove the whole ANC.

Any party that comes after the ANC is going to address BEE/AA in the same approach, just more efficiently and with less corruption.

 

[Bewlen]

Will you cope? You already think AA/BEE is apartheid, you will most probably perish if real apartheid was meted on you.

An interesting thought experiment. Apartheid against whites, but Official Policy. What would that look like? White people are rounded up one morning, disowned of their properties. They are then told to put their belongings on a truck and go to a designated area where they are then dumped. They are told they are to carry id documents with them at all times, not allowed to vote, not allowed to move in certain areas, and are designated separate areas of movement.

Now, you have a set of segregated population, many of them with high levels of education and economic experience. All put together in one location and cut off from the rest of the population. And now, with the justification that they are wrongly discriminated against and the support of the international community.

As I said, a thought experiment.

 

[Ponderer]

Get rid of the criminals and the ANC enablers, might as well remove the whole ANC.

Any party that comes after the ANC is going to address BEE/AA in the same approach, just more efficiently and with less corruption.

So discrimination (AA and BEE) is wrong, but it could be right if it (discrimination) is done in the right way?

 

[wingnut771]

Get rid of the criminals and the ANC enablers, might as well remove the whole ANC.

Any party that comes after the ANC is going to address BEE/AA in the same approach, just more efficiently and with less corruption.

How would it be more efficient if they still hire on the basis of the colour of your skin instead of the content of your character? It takes 12 years to go through the school system. So we have had 2 cycles and half way through the 3rd of having equal opportunity.

 

[Gyre]

There is no scenario where BBBEE will ever be able to build the country. It is by design destined for failure.

I think regardless of how unappealing it is, it's a big selling point to the voter base so any political party will find a way to address it and keep it in some form.

 

[RedViking]

I think regardless of how unappealing it is, it's a big selling point to the voter base so any political party will find a way to address it and keep it in some form.

Of course. Only tax payers should be allowed to vote.

 

[Gyre]

How would it be more efficient if they still hire on the basis of the colour of your skin instead of the content of your character? It takes 12 years to go through the school system. So we have had 2 cycles and half way through the 3rd of having equal opportunity.

I proposed not looking at race but rather looking at background and financial history/upbringing. As i the school system and unemployment is a mess.

 

[Ponderer]

I proposed not looking at race but rather looking at background and financial history/upbringing. As i the school system and unemployment is a mess.

So you propose (are in favour of) different/other types/kinds of discrimination?

 

[Gyre]

Of course. Only tax payers should be allowed to vote.

Doesn't that mean the taxpayers get to say what happens to the non-tax payers?

What needs to happen is that the generation with die-hard loyalty to the ANC need to die off and we need to educate/support the younger generation as much as we can to make the right decisions. Voting is a human right and nobody will give up that right, especially since people have not had that right for years under Apartheid.

 

[Gyre]

So you propose different/other types/kinds of discrimination upliftment?

FTFY - I think you'd find many people support constructive welfare that enables people to help themselves, instead of giving people nothing in the form of free grants