Dis-Chem not allowed to hire anymore white people for now

[L-Dog]

If you are still debating it at this point, just by the special.

It is the same dilemma most people have with China. They don't really like China, wish we had more local manufacturing, but they like cheap junk even more.

Were do you get the most value. A small monetary saving. Or actually having principles.

It was just a joke, I am not boycotting Dischem all big companies have this policy because they are forced to. If you want to live in SA you need to accept racism and BBEEE will be with us for the foreseeable future. Always remember where there is chaos there is opportunity!

 

[TheChamp]

If you are still debating it at this point, just buy the special.

It is the same dilemma most people have with China. They don't really like China, wish we had more local manufacturing, but they like cheap junk even more.

Were do you get the most value. A small monetary saving. Or actually having principles.

I do have principles but I sometimes throw them out of the window when it's necessary, like the guy I buy gas from in the village was rude to one of his staff, I did not like it so I spent a lot of time not going there, then one day I did not have an option but to go there, I wasn't going to let other people suffer because of my principles so I did the right and went there to get gas.

Life is too short and too complicated to be too rigid about things.

 

[rietrot]

It was just a joke, I am not boycotting Dischem all big companies have this policy because they are forced to. If you want to live in SA you need to accept racism and BBEEE will be with us for the foreseeable future. Always remember where there is chaos there is opportunity!

I used to have pretty strong Ancap/libertarian views a few years ago, that we don't even need a government at all and people will just do the right thing and get along and we'll prosper... but more and more I'm leaning completely fascism. We need to beat the spineless amoral people back into line. Because we can't just accept social and moral decline and have a good future.

 

[OhYeah84]

I used to have pretty strong Ancap/libertarian views a few years ago, that we don't even need a government at all and people will just do the right thing and get along and we'll prospers... but more and more I'm leaning completely fascism. We need to beat the spineless amoral people back into line. Because we can't just accept social and moral decline and have a good future.

Are you going to lead the way, or watch from the sidelines? Kind of the thinking of a certain political party in RSA who want nothing but anarchy and mayhem.

 

[rietrot]

Are you going to lead the way, or watch from the sidelines? Kind of the thinking of a certain political party in RSA who want nothing but anarchy and mayhem.

Yes vote for me.

It's the same as some Middle Eastern countries need a brutal dictator to keep the crazies wanting to blow themselves up in check.

We've had so much moral decline that people no longer know what the right thing to do is an enough educational decline that people cannot be reasoned with.

They need the sjambok

 

[OhYeah84]

Yes vote for me.

It's the same as some Middle Eastern countries need a brutal dictator to keep the crazies wanting to blow themselves up in check.

We've had so much moral decline that people no longer know what the right thing to do is an enough educational decline that people cannot be reasoned with.

They need the sjambok

You didn't answer the question as usual. Are you leading from the front or sitting on the sidelines with this action you're taking?

PS: EFF was the party.

 

[wingnut771]

Are you going to lead the way, or watch from the sidelines? Kind of the thinking of a certain political party in RSA who want nothing but anarchy and mayhem.

I didn't read any mayhem and anarchy in @rietrot's post.

 

[OhYeah84]

I didn't read any mayhem and anarchy in @rietrot's post.

Fascism...to get there you need to devolve this country (at least) to mayhem and anarchy (we are showing signs of it, albeit it small signs). Beating people into submission to get them to tow the line. this is going from 1 extreme to another.

 

[wingnut771]

You didn't answer the question as usual. Are you leading from the front or sitting on the sidelines with this action you're taking?

PS: EFF was the party.

The EFF will just scatter like ants when met with conviction.

 

[wingnut771]

Fascism...to get there you need to devolve this country (at least) to mayhem and anarchy (we are showing signs of it, albeit it small signs). Beating people into submission to get them to tow the line. this is going from 1 extreme to another.

What other options are there? Anyway, behave like a civilised person then you have nothing to worry about.

 

[Pitbull]

Germany has AA, Singapore does it, America does it, India does it, Israel does it. These are not communist countries.

If a bank looks at your income and financial situation to give you a loan, are they communists? When a company looks at your previous payslips, are they communists?

We elect a government TO do these things(as much as I would like us to not have one). Apart from your philosophical sprint to dive into the afterlife, the government has to look after everyone, not just your needs.

AA is and should be there to protect the Minority...

You do know South Africa is the only country in the world that uses AA to empower/protect the majority right?

 

[OhYeah84]

The EFF will just scatter like ants when met with conviction.

At what cost to the country and to the people, and after how long. That's the main gist behind things. Certainly the leadership will and they'll be happy to incite. But enough people will do enough damage over a period of time.

 

[ShaunSA]

I do have principles but I sometimes throw them out of the window when it's necessary,

So not actually principles but stuff you say to make yourself feel better than others

 

[Brawler]

Reading an advert for a job in Washington

EQUAL EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITY

[Company name] is an Equal Opportunity Employer. All qualified applicants will receive consideration for employment and employment decisions are based only on job requirements, candidate qualifications, and our needs as a business.—not on race, color, ethnicity, national origin, religion, belief, sex (including pregnancy and related medical conditions), gender identity or expression, sexual orientation, age, disability status, veteran status, genetic information, HIV status, family/marital/parental status, or any other status protected by the laws and regulations in the jurisdictions where we work.

Its ridiculous that it even needs to be said, but still, must be nice.

 

[Pitbull]

Let's get the facts straight.
You admit that AA and BEE is racial discrimination, and that racial discrimination it is wrong.
You however at the same time try to justify it.
So, which is it - is it (AA and BEE) wrong or not?

He's an idiot.

AA if done correctly is a wonderful thing. SA is the only country in the world doing it completely wrong...

 

[OhYeah84]

Germany has AA, Singapore does it, America does it, India does it, Israel does it. These are not communist countries.

If a bank looks at your income and financial situation to give you a loan, are they communists? When a company looks at your previous payslips, are they communists?

We elect a government TO do these things(as much as I would like us to not have one). Apart from your philosophical sprint to dive into the afterlife, the government has to look after everyone, not just your needs.

Germany has equal rights, so there is no discrimination based on race, sex or age for instance. It's not based on race like in RSA. In certain situations, where a woman has equal skills when compared to a man, they will be preferred, and disabled over an enabled person.
They do not discriminate on race, so you got that one wrong.

Singapore:
Singapore is opposed to affirmative action for admissions into its competitive colleges, but has mechanisms in place to safeguard minority representation in the highest office of the land.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwi8qvPlpO76AhUBQUEAHQElAPoQFnoECAsQAw&url=https%3A%2F%2Flkyspp.nus.edu.sg%2Fdocs%2Fdefault-source%2Fips%2Ffa_singapores-lessons-on-affirmative-action_050917-pdf.pdf%3Fsfvrsn%3Dfc769f0b_0&usg=AOvVaw05MTYfENuoiZuXVQoxa2b-

Israel

Q&A: Israel and the Affirmative Action Debate

An interview with Sigal Alon, associate professor at Tel Aviv University and the author of Race, Class, and Affirmative Action.

momentmag.com

 

[Gyre]

AA is and should be there to protect the Minority...

You do know South Africa is the only country in the world that uses AA to empower/protect the majority right?

Which country had a minority controlling a majority, for comparison?

 

[TheChamp]

So not actually principles but stuff you say to make yourself feel better than others

They are principles because I say so, that's how these things work.

 

[OhYeah84]

Which country had a minority controlling a majority, for comparison?

...got to see what you say when you're directly affected by these sorts of policies. Will be grabbing popcorn.

You're entitled to be a bit outraged, no need to be an apologist.

 

[Pegasus]