Dis-Chem not allowed to hire anymore white people for now

[sefeddt]

It's a matter of principle, while my money not spent at them might not have an impact, I have the satisfaction of knowing I'm not helping their profits.

 

[Paulsie]

This is the the stated and enforced BEE policy for all JSE listed companies. They have no choice in this matter. They face ongoing fines for non compliance. Don't blame the companies for what is an ANC racist policy. You should be waging this war at the ballot box. Punishing the employees of Dischem for what is an ANC policy is not really fair.

From what I know, junior and middle management has no bearing whatsoever on bee points. Bee is about ownership and upper management with decision making powers (aside from procurement etc).
Blanket ban on hiring and promotions is BS.

 

[TheChamp]

From what I know, junior and middle management has no bearing whatsoever on bee points. Bee is about ownership and upper management with decision making powers.
Blanket ban on hiring and promotions is BS.

The problem of MyBb forumites and BEE. It says right there in the article that this is about EE targets, which talks to ordinary employees and not shareholders. People insist its the same thing so everything just becomes BEE.

 

[rvZA]

The problem of MyBb forumites and BEE. It says right there in the article that this is about EE targets, which talks to ordinary employees and not shareholders. People insist its the same thing so everything just becomes BEE.

No, BEE and AA is not the same thing. But they are equally destructive. As can be seen in Eskom and in all other facets of the SA economy.

 

[Paulsie]

The problem of MyBb forumites and BEE. It says right there in the article that this is about EE targets, which talks to ordinary employees and not shareholders. People insist its the same thing so everything just becomes BEE.

I did miss that. Thank you.

 

[konfab]

Who counts as white?

 

[TheChamp]

No, BEE and AA is not the same thing. But they are equally destructive. As can be seen in Eskom and in all other facets of the SA economy.

Have you ever asked yourself why it only becomes a problem in SOEs while it's also applicable to private companies?

Surely they should all be like Eskom if it was that destructive?

 

[rvZA]

Have you ever asked yourself why it only becomes a problem in SOEs while it's also applicable to private companies?

Surely they should all be like Eskom if it was that destructive?

Have you ever started doing some research into any private South African company and comparing its staff numbers and hiring numbers in 1998 or 2010 vs 2022?

 

[konfab]

Have you ever asked yourself why it only becomes a problem in SOEs while it's also applicable to private companies?

Surely they should all be like Eskom if it was that destructive?

What it manifests as in the private sector is the lack of economic growth.

Private sector is what employs most people. What happens when you gimp the private sector is that you get mass unemployment.

 

[rvZA]

What it manifests as in the private sector is the lack of economic growth.

Private sector is what employs most people. What happens when you gimp the private sector is that you get mass unemployment.

Just take a look at the IT systems in probably most of the private sector and you will see even further systematic destruction of the business sector.

 

[TheChamp]

Have you ever started doing some research into any private South African company and comparing its staff numbers and hiring numbers in 1998 or 2010 vs 2022?

Why would I need to do that? All I need to do is check if they are compliant with AA/EE, look at how successful they are then ask you how do they manage that with AA.

Now back to my question, are you going to answer it or is it too inconvenient?

 

[konfab]

Just take a look at the IT systems in probably most of the private sector and you will see even further systematic destruction of the business sector.

The best part is that it is a living example of exactly how apartheid was perpetuated. People are against it, but are too much of a coward to fight it.

EE legislation for example doesn't have any definition of race. So someone with a bit of balls would be able to just state that 100% of their workforce is black. What is the state going to do? Run a pencil test on all the employees?

 

[Fulcrum29]

From what I know, junior and middle management has no bearing whatsoever on bee points. Bee is about ownership and upper management with decision making powers (aside from procurement etc).
Blanket ban on hiring and promotions is BS.

This is a generic example,



Source: http://www.bbbee.com/scorecards/scorecards-gs.html

The question is then to which extent you are or want to be audited, then there are sectoral codes, but that is another topic to discuss.

Practically, your level only matters to those doing business with you. The state requires a higher recognition, and so do their suppliers, and so the value chain trickles down.

I have seen and experienced smaller businesses challenged by procurement policies. Not going into this.

These discussions have been had too many times on this discussion board to keep track. BEE will only go away the day the global community stands against it, not going to happen.

Lastly, BEE rating agencies are making a killing.

 

[Harmonic]

Why would I need to do that? All I need to do is check if they are compliant with AA/EE, look at how successful they are then ask you how do they manage that with AA.

Now back to my question, are you going to answer it or is it too inconvenient?

You're looking at someone with one leg and comparing to others with no legs. 1/10. Try again

 

[MilitantNightElf]

If I spray some fake tan can I work a till at dis-chem then?

 

[TheChamp]

You're looking at someone with one leg and comparing to others with no legs. 1/10. Try again

Who has one leg, rvZA? He should stop moaning and apply for an AA position at once.

 

[LazyLion]

From what I know, junior and middle management has no bearing whatsoever on bee points. Bee is about ownership and upper management with decision making powers (aside from procurement etc).
Blanket ban on hiring and promotions is BS.

Even if what you said was even remotely correct, how does lower management make it up to higher management over time, if they are not the right colour to begin with.
You would need to make sure that lower management are black to begin with so that they can later be promoted to upper management.

 

[capd]

Bought an urgent purchase from Baby City (Dis-Chem) today as no one else had stock other than Takealot. Last purchase I make with the group. Have been enjoying Clicks lately who often have great specials. Ironically when I was in a pickle today about a Baby City branch’s number not working, a lovely enthusiastic & helpful white lady answered the national number and resolved the issue instantly. Pity.

It’s up to us to resolve the woke racist rot by using our buying power and voting with our wallets.

 

[shadow_man]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1580964225781927936

Ask Spur about their financial hit when they pissed off the boertjies - took them years to recover and they still haven't.

 

[RonSwanson]

The problem of MyBb forumites and BEE. It says right there in the article that this is about EE targets, which talks to ordinary employees and not shareholders. People insist its the same thing so everything just becomes BEE.

Tell that to the SAPS and the SANDF.