Discovery Vitality in 2016

[ProtechIT]

I will most certainly call Vitality on Monday to ask about this cause it's two straight months now meeting all my goals and I don't remember seeing a reimbursement on my Discovery Credit Card statement for March regarding the Gym Booster.

Let us know what they say, when I called they told me I would get refunded on 15 March, still waiting

 

[air]

new day, new rules...

can anybody check please, does the Muvit HR strap linked to the Polar app qualify as a legitimate 'tool' and Discovery will honour the workout data?

thanks in advance!
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[fruitbat]

Let us know what they say, when I called they told me I would get refunded on 15 March, still waiting

I emailed last week. And they said 12 April. Wonder if April is the start? Or if the dev is still not complete ;-) lol

 

[Patrick_Hockstetter]

Just got a reply to my 1 star rating of discovery on facebook. Anyone else?

Hi *****, sorry to hear you feel this way. Please let us know if you have any queries we can assist with. Thanks, AH

 

[donanicky]

Me too, lol

 

[StrontiumDog]

Just got a reply to my 1 star rating of discovery on facebook. Anyone else?

Hi *****, sorry to hear you feel this way. Please let us know if you have any queries we can assist with. Thanks, AH

Well that is standard. Copy/paste "we hear you reply, we're sorry" Copy/paste "here's what you can do to achieve on the new rules" Copy/paste "let us know if we can help you further just in case our Copy/paste feedback was insufficient "

 

[StrontiumDog]

OK, 2 April has arrived and the new goals unobtainable unless by gym card swiping or insane heart rates. I'm so over this. I think I will cancel my DiscoveryCard too.

 

[element1]

Jip, lets go and workout at +70% HR and get the same 100 points as just swiping a gym tag. .

 

[asshat99]

So, I just confirmed, if you upload a TCX file generated on a non-supported platform onto a supported platform, it will sync and you will be awarded smoothie points. Tested with Nike+ (not supported for ages - unaltered source file - incidentally with HR) to Garmin Connect. This has always been the case and continues to be so after the 2nd of April.

This means that you can (still) earn HR or normal points with the following platforms (even if now unsupported - I did not test all platforms or all source devices but they use the same mechanism) if you export a file and then import it onto a different supported platform:

adidas miCoach, Endomondo, Fitbit, Garmin Connect, MapMyFitness, Nike+ Running, Polar Flow, Ride with GPS, RunKeeper, Runtastic, Sports Tracker, Strava, Suunto Movescount, probably some others and Notepad.exe.

There is no hacking or reverse engineering or cheating or any altering (whatsoever) required. Getting angry when educated about this useful feature (esp for Adidas and Nike users) is just embarrassing - even more than suggesting 'reverse engineering' human readable open standard files and making apps to upload 'fake data' (unnecessary given the website will do this for you) and also saying 'moot' a lot like Mr Joker here:

If I really want to, I can also reverse engineer the Garmin Connect app...check out how it is then set to Garmin device. Then just write my own app to upload fake data to Garmin Connect that seem as if its from a real Garmin device.

Commence maximum roid raging/back-tracking/damage control.

 

[Tinuva]

So, I just confirmed, if you upload a TCX file generated on a non-supported platform onto a supported platform, it will sync and you will be awarded smoothie points. Tested with Nike+ (not supported for ages - unaltered source file - incidentally with HR) to Garmin Connect. This has always been the case and continues to be so after the 2nd of April.

This means that you can (still) earn HR or normal points with the following platforms (even if now unsupported - I did not test all platforms or all source devices but they use the same mechanism) if you export a file and then import it onto a different supported platform:


There is no hacking or reverse engineering or cheating or any altering (whatsoever) required. Getting angry when educated about this useful feature (esp for Adidas and Nike users) is just embarrassing - even more than suggesting 'reverse engineering' human readable open standard files and making apps to upload 'fake data' (unnecessary given the website will do this for you) and also saying 'moot' a lot like Mr Joker here:


Commence maximum roid raging/back-tracking/damage control.

ROFL. I applaud you for your persistence.
For a smart person though you not that smart, if you still havent realised by now I have always known about uploading tcx ect files.

That said, since Vitality still accepts the uploaded files, eg. 3rd party data, perhaps they havent completely made the changes yet to discard 3rd party data, or they really just made up a lot of bs and wants to support less platforms to lessen their support load.

 

[asshat99]

ROFL. I applaud you for your persistence.
For a smart person though you not that smart, if you still havent realised by now I have always known about uploading tcx ect files.

The back-tracking option. A more dignified response would have been silence.

Jaja - hence all the reverse engineering, setting device identity, fake data and apps right... You strike me as the fat kid at school who totally hacked NASA on the weekend; has finished Half Life 3; whose navy seal uncle who designed the rooivalk is going to give him a flip in an apache next weekend and then has to back-track when called out.

 

[Tinuva]

Look if you typed your responses in a more mature way, I could maybe take you more serious, but as it stands, the way you handled the initial disagreement, was childish. Maybe I am fat, maybe I am not, clearly you dont know and it really doesnt matter as it doesnt pertain to the disagreement.

I made up a possibility, that yes you can reverse engineer an app if you really badly wanted to circumvent Vitality's preventative measures for cheaters. Never ever did I say I will be that person that can do it, I am not even a programmer, you just assumed I said I will be able to do it. You know what they say about assumptions...(well I hope you do, because that is also an assumption).

At least, you have some good attributes, but they count for nothing when completely overshadowed by your other shallow attributes.

I really thought you were just trolling me, but you seem to be hell bent serious to prove me wrong, and make me look stupid. I was wrong, you were really trying all this time...

 

[asshat99]

make me look stupid.

I have no good attributes. I never assumed you were a programmer - you assumed I assumed that. I also did not say you were fat - you just remind me of THAT kid. Big talk but you don't have the ability or the understanding of the basics and then you go mental when I agree and explain that it is even easier than all of that!

Mission accomplished. I will take that as a public apology. Thanks for your deference. A big change from when you referred to me as "Mr Joker" right off the bat. Pity - we could have had a constructive conversation about discovery's true motives for cutting platforms (prob the support nightmare) and how to keep using unsupported platforms.

The end. Smoothies all round.

 

[Tinuva]

You are still a Joker assuming that was an apology, you basically did say I am fat, just obscuring saying it with the word "strike me as", but still comparing me to the exact same thing.

Don't worry, I don't take it as an insult, it just shows your ignorance.

 

[StrontiumDog]

a-hat, i would love to see you on the vitality FB page giving the social media support guys uphill like you are doing here How about it?

 

[Rocket-Boy]

So, I just confirmed, if you upload a TCX file generated on a non-supported platform onto a supported platform, it will sync and you will be awarded smoothie points. Tested with Nike+ (not supported for ages - unaltered source file - incidentally with HR) to Garmin Connect. This has always been the case and continues to be so after the 2nd of April.

This means that you can (still) earn HR or normal points with the following platforms (even if now unsupported - I did not test all platforms or all source devices but they use the same mechanism) if you export a file and then import it onto a different supported platform:


There is no hacking or reverse engineering or cheating or any altering (whatsoever) required. Getting angry when educated about this useful feature (esp for Adidas and Nike users) is just embarrassing - even more than suggesting 'reverse engineering' human readable open standard files and making apps to upload 'fake data' (unnecessary given the website will do this for you) and also saying 'moot' a lot like Mr Joker here:

Been doing this for a while with my wife's Tomtom which natively can export a .tcx or .fit file.
Fortunately my Suunto was linked before they moved the goalposts.

In terms of editing a file it would be pretty difficult, not impossible, but there is a lot of data that would need to be added and manipulated.
People just need to stop trying to cheat the systems and get off their asses to do some exercise.

 

[hellfire]

My points goal just got reduced from 700 to 300.
So I'm happy

 

[asshat99]

a-hat, i would love to see you on the vitality FB page giving the social media support guys uphill like you are doing here How about it?

Shame - those guys - worst job. At least they won't "backtrace my IP" and "hack my mainframe" like the 1337 h4ck3r5 if they really want to.

 

[Napalm2880]

That said, since Vitality still accepts the uploaded files, eg. 3rd party data, perhaps they havent completely made the changes yet to discard 3rd party data, or they really just made up a lot of bs and wants to support less platforms to lessen their support load.

We'll just have to wait and see. I suspect they're still working with the currently supported services to flag 3rd party data so they can discard it.

 

[StrontiumDog]

My points goal just got reduced from 700 to 300.
So I'm happy

Not sure if serious. The real question is how does that translate into achieving the weekly goal on new rules vs the old.