Do i really need water cooling?

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Guys i have never done this before so please dont fight with me....

Anyway i want to know if you really need water cooling if you want to overclock your cpu???:confused:
 
yes but when your overclocking a cpu watercooling always help

depending if you have an amd or core 2

most amd's overclock like shyte
 
Killadoob you obviously have an axe to grind, but I would ask you how many CPUs have you overclocked? how long have you been benching etc...? How many CPUs have you gone through?

I speak from years spent overclocking, benching running with the best of them not only locally but in the international community as well and I can tell you that a CPU is AMD or Intel has nothing to do with its overclocking ability.

Its down to the technology, node and design and that's it. I have had a MAXP 2500+ @ 3,6GHz no Intel CPU I have ever had had matched this overclock. (Total OC BTW on a .13nm part)
 
watercooling is only required in the most extreme of overclocking situations. Normally a good aftermarket fan will do the trick.
 
Thermaltake 9500LED cooler, and no, you don't need watercooling to overclock!.
 
where is your proof of this shock link us a pic there shockie

lets i had an amd 2200+

1700+ didnt overclock it had a crappy board
2600+ about 250 cpu was so hot i have to buy a better cooler
3000+ 754 300 best i could do
3200+939 400 more was the best i could do, that broke and i had to pay rectron 400 rand more for
3400+ 350
3800+ dual core couldnt get more than 300 out of it and neither could anyone else that i looked up
core 2 1.83 @ 3.22ghz got it to 2.8 with air



im not really a noob when it comes to overclocking, and i used to be a massive AMD fan i only bought amd, but things change, you seem to die a hard fan boi even though they are far behind the comp at the moment

if amd's new cpu's are better than intel i'll buy it, but i do not defend a company that has worse product, does not make sense to do so
but i really wanna see those pics of that overclock shock g because its pretty unbelievable
http://www.xyzcomputing.com/forums/lofiversion/index.php/t8.html

such a high overclock without watercooling shock lol

ok if ya say so

still would love to see those pics and i wonder could the pc actually function or just boot up for tests, no point getting a cpu to that speed without the pc being able to function whats the point then?

shock you submit that it would be a world record and an even better record considering you didnt use watercooling

also plz post some links of amd's that actually get more than 500-600mhz more? that can actually be used in every day life, no use overclocking a cpu to extreme lengths only to find your pc doesnt work lol

http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Hardware/Features/XP-M/

wow 1.83 to 3.6ghz highly doubt it though

o and plz stop telling everyone that amd is still good, amd does not overclock well that is a fact
i understand you support amd even though they are way behind but telling ppl things that are not true is not right man

what other amd cpu's are out now that can overclock more than 600mhz? would love to know :)
 
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killadoob don't get your panties in a knot!

killadoob said:
blah blah blah...
o and plz stop telling everyone that amd is still good, amd does not overclock well that is a fact...
blah blah blah...
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ShockG said:
...AMD or Intel has nothing to do with its overclocking ability.
Its down to the technology, node and design and that's it.
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i find nothing wrong with ShockG's post! its actually more objective than your defensive blabbedy-gook. reading your post if there was a 'die hard fan boi' it would be you! lolzers!
 
Dude are you out your mind?
Who do you think holds SA record for 3DM2K1, 3DM03, 3DM05 and 3DM06?
Who do you think held SA record for 6600GT in AM3 in 2005 before JHK and NS took over with SLI?
Who do you think was the first dude in the country to run Dry Ice?

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o269/Mzekezeke/27.jpg

Lets not even go there.
Earn your stripes then come talk. You are hardly in any position to tell me about anything to do with overclocking. Check yourself please ;)
 
mock i was the biggest amd fanboi ever, every single pc ive ever owned was amd, until core 2 that is

omw thats freakin insane

but did it run the computer fine

mock my panties are not in knot my posts come across like im all agro but they not thats why i try and use a smiley face :)

i still stick to my point that no amd you can buy today can overclock as well as an intel and telling ppl that they can is not right :)

we all know amd is being kicked in gutt and i just hope their new cpu's are great and like i said i will buy amd again because they where best for so long but they are not anymore and defending a cpu that is not as good is crazy :)

yea i got pwned but then i always do when it comes to shock g, i should know by now he has proof of everything

ok i have proof now that is the best overclock ive ever seen on any cpu that wasnt cooled withsomething amazing :)
 
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killadoob said:
yes but when your overclocking a cpu watercooling always help

depending if you have an amd or core 2

most amd's overclock like shyte
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Well just to add my 2c.

I have an Opteron 165 (Dual core) and an Exos Al Watercooling setup for my CPU, MB chipset and GPU.

The Opteron (AMD) stock is 1800mhz. I have been running it 100% stable for over 6 months at 2900mhz. Voltages have been increased to get there. I'm sure I could get more out of it but I'd need a better motherboard and Ram. Core temps never get more than 45 degrees.

7900GT stock is 450 core, 600 mem (I think), and has been running with a voltmod 100% stable with no artifacts at 700 core and 800 mem. Again, temps never over 50 degrees.

So to answer the first question, if you are going to do a serious overclock, a watercooling setup can be very useful. However, if I was running C2D at the moment and didn't already have my Exos, I'd probably stick with air simply because results on air have been excellent.

And I'd like to completely blow your theory out the water that AMD's don't overclock.

PS My AMD XP3000 (Previous chip) ran for about 2 years at 2400mhz up from 1800 stock.
 
Aaaa the days of OC my computers.

I tried my hand at OC and found it to be a very addictive and somewhat costly exercise.

The only authentic record I could find http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=22736

Not the best OC achieved - there I go again.

The matter of cooling and what to use is directly linked to how much you are trying to get out of your system. There is a limit to every cooling system and a point at which no cooling will stabilize your system.

Heat especially if one starts fiddling with voltage is the enemy of any OC attempt..

Maybe I will unpack my Vapochill again......
 
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