Do you believe the NHI is a good thing for South Africa?

Do you believe the NHI is a good thing for South Africa?

  • Yes

    Votes: 29 8.6%
  • No

    Votes: 268 79.1%
  • I don't know

    Votes: 24 7.1%
  • Other

    Votes: 18 5.3%

  • Total voters
    339
That is a question a lot of people are asking and not getting a sane answer to.

The problem is that there are people in universities like UCT, where experts in health economics are pretty happy about the NH or at least point to the two pools of money (med aid) vs state health and say MUST MAKE HEALTH CARE EQUITABLE.
 
Quality health care should be available to everyone.

History has demonstrated time and time again that this government is not capable of achieving that goal.
I have to agree. Its a noble goal, but our government cannot even keep the post office running let alone running something more critical such as health care.
 
What you are discussing is individualism. Capitalism is a flawed system that imagines infinite growth with finite resources and has painted humanity in to a corner.
Capitalism is indeed flawed, but not as badly as is portrayed by those who would convince others that socialism is somehow an improvement.
Certainly, "finite resources" itself is a modern exaggeration of scientism, as many other respected scientists are showing.

What should actually be used for comparison is democracy. Capitalism itself can and sometimes does benefit from balancing factors that include some socialist concepts.

I tihnk you mean Communism? It could reasonably be argued that countries like the UK, Denmark, etc. are socialist states in practice if not in name. The bad ones (China, Cuba, Vietnam, etc.) are usually run by communist parties (COP).
How often socialists prefer not to mention that communism is the father of socialism.
 
If it was well managed and we had the funds and they let people still have the option of private medical care, yes.
As it is, the looting will be immense and the whole thing will be a disaster.
Fix what we currently have and prove you are capable of actually running health care. Right now they most certainly are not.
 
If it was well managed and we had the funds and they let people still have the option of private medical care, yes.
As it is, the looting will be immense and the whole thing will be a disaster.
Fix what we currently have and prove you are capable of actually running health care. Right now they most certainly are not.

That's not equitable though.
 
Time for a very cool cross-post.

I believe the NHI is as good for south africa, as the R70billion e-toll debt that should have been R6billion funded by a 4c national levy, that turned into an unpayable national debt (of R70billion) (so R1000%).

Multiplied by approximately 3000.

But hey, who cares about money, amiright?

(well, except the taxpayer-guy who pays it, but f*** that guy, right? Capitalist scum should be lined up and shot! Right?)
 
Terrible idea. There is no money and the money raped from tax payers will be stolen by the anc.
So government decide where your kids go to school.

we lost the right to choose where and what our kids learn. No they want to take our rights away about how we get medical treatment.

we slowly loosing every right
 
There was a POD cast about a Canadian woman with cancer and the Canadian national health told her because she is terminal they can not spend health care on someone that is not going to live much longer.

She ended up going to the USA for treatment that she paid.

At what point do the government decide if you can be treated?

National health does not work in first world and will sure as hell not work in the banana republic
 
Other: it will just result in a faster decline of the entire country, more stolen billions, nobody is going to get better healthcare, everybody will have worse healthcare instead

but then again ... I've often said in the past the only thing that will save South Africa is hitting rock bottom so the rebuilding can start, in that sense something that accelerates the decline is indeed a good thing
 
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