Does how you press the clutch affect how your clutch cable wears out?

Jet-Fighter7700

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Hi guys,

Small question, gone through 2 clutch cables in the past before, and i wanted to know how can it happen that the way i press the pedal affect my cable life?

I mean these days i sit in traffic and think my cable just about to snap again, and i havent touched/adjusted it since it was put in, and its a genuine kia part.....

I had an automotive cable specilist check my cable, said its not too worn out,
So does sitting in traffic, or the way i press the pedal affect the life of the cable, cause it feels like its gonna snap soon....
 

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It's probably just an ingrained fear you now have that is playing on your mind.
Of course, you shouldn't ride the clutch unnecessarily.
But I do think that spares parts these days are deliberately designed to wear out faster.
I go through CV joints like I go through oil.
 

Jet-Fighter7700

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It's probably just an ingrained fear you now have that is playing on your mind.
Of course, you shouldn't ride the clutch unnecessarily.
But I do think that spares parts these days are deliberately designed to wear out faster.
I go through CV joints like I go through oil.

RotfL, cv joint is next for me, its chattering like a baboon that stole a iphone from a tourist....

No its just im trying to understand if you ride it as you do in traffic its gonna wear out quicker.....

I know traffic kills cars, but does the way you press the pedal have any effect on it?
 

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Correct routing is very important. If not routed properly you end up shortening the life span of the cable.
 

SauRoNZA

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What do you mean the way you press it?

There is only really one way as it's a statically mounted pedal that either goes up or down...it can't be use any other way.

Logic says the cable will be under strain whenever the pedal is pressed as it is then taut, whereas when it is released it relaxes.

Like Pitbull said though going through 2 in such a short time is either bad routing or a case of a dodgy part.

Cable should last a good five years without any drama.
 

Jet-Fighter7700

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Thats the thing exactly, had the cable installed by a mechanic, one time didnt put the rubber part that prevents damage through the firewall
Another time just snapped at the point through the firewall.
Its like no3 at the moment, and when sitting in traffic sometimes feels like its gonna snap again, and its a genuine kia part,
I can Best describe it as when you push the clutch back in once to get it moving slowly, it "vibrates" the car, like its biting intermittently but my foot is in completly so it shoudent do that, last time it snapped i remember the sensation well.

Im beginning to suspect the way i push the pedal/driving style has some sort of influence on it.... i never ride it but in traffic or at robots sometimes you got no choice.....
 

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Thats the thing exactly, had the cable installed by a mechanic, one time didnt put the rubber part that prevents damage through the firewall
Another time just snapped at the point through the firewall.
Its like no3 at the moment, and when sitting in traffic sometimes feels like its gonna snap again, and its a genuine kia part,
I can Best describe it as when you push the clutch back in once to get it moving slowly, it "vibrates" the car, like its biting intermittently but my foot is in completly so it shoudent do that, last time it snapped i remember the sensation well.

Im beginning to suspect the way i push the pedal/driving style has some sort of influence on it.... i never ride it but in traffic or at robots sometimes you got no choice.....

Do you push it in and out quickly or slowly? I do the first and haven't change my clutch cable since I got the car
 

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The clutch cable moves a fixed distance, so I doubt you could abuse it to the point of breaking. However, even if you stomped on the clutch repeatedly, it would be most likely to break at the ends. Either right at the pedal or at the gearbox.

I suspect that the vibrating might be the clutch release bearing. Put your car in neutral with the car running, then push the clutch in and out. If your engine noise changes whilst doing this, it can serve as an early indication that the release bearing is becoming worn.

My car is doing this at the moment, so I am trying to use the clutch smoothly and not put too much strain on it.
 

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Big thing with a clutch and cable is to use it sparingly.

In traffic, just dab it and flick the car into neutral when you are having to sit for any length of time - your clutch and your cable will thank you for that..:)
 

Jet-Fighter7700

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Thanks guys, good tips here
Does holding the car with the clutch in, first gear and handbrake up damage anything?
(Especially while in traffic)

Ill try that check for the release bearing, car just got to 100k so bound to need some maintence; correct me if im wrong; release bearing comes with a clutch kit?
 

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The clutch cable moves a fixed distance, so I doubt you could abuse it to the point of breaking. However, even if you stomped on the clutch repeatedly, it would be most likely to break at the ends. Either right at the pedal or at the gearbox.

I suspect that the vibrating might be the clutch release bearing. Put your car in neutral with the car running, then push the clutch in and out. If your engine noise changes whilst doing this, it can serve as an early indication that the release bearing is becoming worn.

My car is doing this at the moment, so I am trying to use the clutch smoothly and not put too much strain on it.

About that check for engine noise, does watching if the revs dip or increase help in knowing if this is the case?

Ive got a super accurate way via the torque app to see if the revs increase/decrese can that help here?
 

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Thanks guys, good tips here
Does holding the car with the clutch in, first gear and handbrake up damage anything?
(Especially while in traffic)

Ill try that check for the release bearing, car just got to 100k so bound to need some maintence; correct me if im wrong; release bearing comes with a clutch kit?

Yes, it's one of the worst things you can do.

Handbrake should be up and car in neutral - foot nowhere near the clutch!
 

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About that check for engine noise, does watching if the revs dip or increase help in knowing if this is the case?

Ive got a super accurate way via the torque app to see if the revs increase/decrese can that help here?

I dont know, but I doubt it. I guess the rpm might change ever so slightly as the clutch engages and releases, but once the clutch is fully in or out, it should remain the same.
 

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I don't think your way of pressing the clutch is the sole problem, it's also the way you combine the gas peddle with th clutch "pressing" that might make a difference. Example, do your engine ref hard when pressing in the clutch?

Also, after a trip to town, do you smell the clutch? :D
 

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Lube the cable as well.
The pedal must not be to hard to press.
 

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One would think all modern cars have hydraulic clutch mechanism these days, even old uno's have them.
 
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