Does South Africa have a water crisis or simply a water problem?

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Corelli

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Yes. Africa is getting hotter, Europe and North America colder. So if the Gulf Stream keeps slowing (which controls worldwide currents), the hot water that goes to North America and Europe would stop, and thus would push the North into an Ice Age where Africa will be in a drought.

Happened so 400ish AD last. Ended the Roman Era. The ocean is getting hotter than back then, so the ice age north would get worse. Just see the latest storms to hit North America now.

Soo basically..if you want the easy version. Watch the movie "The Day After Tomorrow" its based on that, although it will not happen as fast as that, but over time.


Some areas in New York has just been hit by snow as deep as 1m

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Corelli said:
Yes. Africa is getting hotter, Europe and North America colder. So if the Gulf Stream keeps slowing (which controls worldwide currents), the hot water that goes to North America and Europe would stop, and thus would push the North into an Ice Age where Africa will be in a drought.

Happened so 400ish AD last. Ended the Roman Era. The ocean is getting hotter than back then, so the ice age north would get worse. Just see the latest storms to hit North America now.

Soo basically..if you want the easy version. Watch the movie "The Day After Tomorrow" its based on that, although it will not happen as fast as that, but over time.


Some areas in New York has just been hit by snow as deep as 1m

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stop trying to act cleva now.The problem is quite simple as mentioned on this forum about a billion times already.
 
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Instead of pointing fingers at consumers lets first start with the average 37% of water supply being wasted across the country due to leaking and unmaintained water infrastructure.
Some municipalities lose well over 50% of the water they are allocated.

Then once that has been sorted out (in 50 or 100 years time) we can start focusing on the consumer behaviour. Even if consumers reduce their consumption to zero it won't fix the supply side water wastage issues.

infrastructurenews.co.za

Here’s how much water SA loses through water leaks | Infrastructure news

Water leaks are becoming a bigger cause for concern with municipalities desperately trying to conserve more water, while trying to decrease the amount of clean water that is being wasted through burst water pipes.
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www.dailymaverick.co.za

DOWN THE DRAIN: Enormous amounts of water are wasted daily — now municipalities are being told to ‘stop the leaks’

South Africa is one of the driest countries in the world and it is facing a 17% water supply shortfall in less than a decade — yet billions of litres of clean water are going down the drain every year due to leaking pipes and neglected infrastructure in towns and cities nationwide.
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What one see today is a lack of the seriousness of understanding the load capacity of ANY-AREA for the number of people to accommodate there. In cities the capacity per square meter is way more than in country areas, because cities are vertically build using more water per sqare meter to let humans live a lifetyle we used to or aim for.

Problems: The higher up the problem, the more severe the consequences over time will be. We have all the stats, however it stays as a Talk Shop......Jawbones move endlessly while arms and feet stay below a table, nothing happens.
0-Lack of foresight for planning for water to populated areas and where that water is coming from and how its going to effect all involved in that water supply train, this is a type of Neglect/Ignorance/Corruption..
1-Now I see regularly how municipalities accept new building plans when they know as it is, theres not enough water to sustain it reasonably. This is a type of Neglect/Ignorance/Corruption and the ignorance of those who paid tax and levies for many years to have just that=Water.
2-Poor water supply maintanance, leakages etc.
3-Poor personal dissipline, leaving taps open, steeeling infrastructure etc.
4-Eskom power cuts have effects on water supply and condition eventually of these systems.

When theres too much people per area, everything goes to hell, if a good team is not at it, and it seems theres a limit worldwide to that too.
 
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Corelli said:
Yes. Africa is getting hotter, Europe and North America colder. So if the Gulf Stream keeps slowing (which controls worldwide currents), the hot water that goes to North America and Europe would stop, and thus would push the North into an Ice Age where Africa will be in a drought.

Happened so 400ish AD last. Ended the Roman Era. The ocean is getting hotter than back then, so the ice age north would get worse. Just see the latest storms to hit North America now.

Soo basically..if you want the easy version. Watch the movie "The Day After Tomorrow" its based on that, although it will not happen as fast as that, but over time.


Some areas in New York has just been hit by snow as deep as 1m

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So much for global warming..
 
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The country has over 3000km of coastline. Someone needs to pull finger and set up more desalination plants.
 
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The Voice said:
The country has over 3000km of coastline. Someone needs to pull finger and set up more desalination plants.
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Would building more dams and / or hydro power stations not be more prudent? All potable water is treated as far as I'm aware, and treatment requires electricity, one would assume.
 
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Moto Guzzi said:
What one see today is a lack of the seriousness of understanding the load capacity of ANY-AREA for the number of people to accommodate there. In cities the capacity per square meter is way more than in country areas, because cities are vertically build using more water per sqare meter to let humans live a lifetyle we used to or aim for.

Problems: The higher up the problem, the more severe the consequences over time will be. We have all the stats, however it stays as a Talk Shop......Jawbones move endlessly while arms and feet stay below a table, nothing happens.
0-Lack of foresight for planning for water to populated areas and where that water is coming from and how its going to effect all involved in that water supply train, this is a type of Neglect/Ignorance/Corruption..
1-Now I see regularly how municipalities accept new building plans when they know as it is, theres not enough water to sustain it reasonably. This is a type of Neglect/Ignorance/Corruption and the ignorance of those who paid tax and levies for many years to have just that=Water.
2-Poor water supply maintanance, leakages etc.
3-Poor personal dissipline, leaving taps open, steeeling infrastructure etc.
4-Eskom power cuts have effects on water supply and condition eventually of these systems.

When theres too much people per area, everything goes to hell, if a good team is not at it, and it seems theres a limit worldwide to that too.
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Ja, I want to lose it about number 3 so many times. Was in our change house once stuck in a stall (natural causes) and I heard a tap open, hands being washed and it being left open. No less than ten ****en people (could see their feet) walked by that open tap on the way to the crip without closing it (and then there is if course the issue of not washing up after using the crip.....
 
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It is interesting to note that in the case of load shedding, alternative sources of energy can be made accessible, while with water shedding, alternative sources may not be as accessible or available.
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I find it cheaper and easier to store water than electricity? I mean the stuff literally falls from the sky.

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There is plenty of water, the problem lies in water treatment capacity (i.e. water doesn't go straight from a dam to your tap, it is cleaned first).

I'm not sure why the article didn't make this point clearer
 
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