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Donald F. Trump: President of the USA Part II Covfefe

buka001

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Where there is smoke, there is fire.

In this case it appears to hold true.

The usual sycophants will come out defending this as fake news or he didn't mean it or he was acting or what ever.

Never the less this was a very interesting read.

P.s. I hate Bannon for using "u" as apposed to "you". Did he think it was cool and he could identify with the youth by using such lazy writing?
 

buka001

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Nazi's prasing a Catholic Jew whose only claim to white supremacy is being on top of his black partners?

Your definition of a Nazi is probably a lot more different to what I think is a Nazi. Hitler would have sent this lot to the concentration camps.
Strange how when it comes to Soros, the right can quite easily say yeah this 14yr old kid who avoided being killed by Nazis was a Nazi.

Not that Milo is a Nazi, but he clearly courts with the ideology to provoke support.

This is totally forgiveable by the right because Milo is jewish. Somehow this logic doesnt work with Soros.


What is clear though is the shear weight of identity politics that the alt-right subscribe to, eventhough they detest identity politics and condemn leftist liberals for the same.
 

cerebus

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Nazi's prasing a Catholic Jew whose only claim to white supremacy is being on top of his black partners?
Yeah strange hey, but that's what the video shows. It's almost as though they recognized that MY is a 'useful soldier' in their crusades.

Your definition of a Nazi is probably a lot more different to what I think is a Nazi. Hitler would have sent this lot to the concentration camps.
The neo-nazi alt-right are an odd bunch indeed.
 

cerebus

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If people really think differently based upon their skin colour or their genitals, then discriminating between individuals on the basis of their skin colour or genitals becomes a reasonable course of action just like one discriminates between individuals on the basis of their views in general. You only get to cry about racism and sexism if the differences between the genders and races are arbitrary and irrelevant.

You can't have your cake and eat it too.
Racism/sexism/whateverism, and for that mind, SJWism only exist in the minds of individuals. They don't have to be about any objective reality for them to affect how people behave towards other people.

Maybe you can explain to me why you think it's reasonable that there should be more "black" voices in the upper echelons of the Republican Party when less than 20% of the black population votes Republican. If physical characteristics are indeed important with respect to representation, and each individual deserves to be represented by somebody with whom they can identify, then all things being equal we should be unhappy if the Democratic Party were to have as many black people in it as the Republican Party.
I don't think full representation is achievable or even the correct goal. However, disproportionate homogeneity is also greatly concerning; people tend to represent their own interests, and in Trump's cabinet, those interests appear to be white, rich and mostly male.
 

cerebus

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Is this a Trump thread or one that extends to US politics in general?
It all comes back to Trump. Breitbart has strong ties to Trump via Steve Bannon, for instance.


http://edition.cnn.com/2017/10/05/p...-russia-dossier-christopher-steele/index.html

Exclusive: Mueller's team met with Russia dossier author

Washington (CNN)Special Counsel Robert Mueller's investigators met this past summer with the former British spy whose dossier on alleged Russian efforts to aid the Trump campaign spawned months of investigations that have hobbled the Trump administration, according to two people familiar with the matter.

Information from Christopher Steele, a former MI-6 officer, could help investigators determine whether contacts between people associated with the Trump campaign and suspected Russian operatives broke any laws.
CNN has learned that the FBI and the US intelligence community last year took the Steele dossier more seriously than the agencies have publicly acknowledged. James Clapper, then the director of national intelligence, said in a January 2017 statement that the intelligence community had "not made any judgment that the information in this document is reliable."
The intelligence agencies, particularly the CIA, and the FBI took Steele's research seriously enough that they kept it out of a publicly-released January report on Russian meddling in the election in order to not divulge which parts of the dossier they had corroborated and how.
This contrasts with attempts by President Donald Trump and some lawmakers to discredit Steele and the memos he produced.
 

OrbitalDawn

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Strange how when it comes to Soros, the right can quite easily say yeah this 14yr old kid who avoided being killed by Nazis was a Nazi.

Not that Milo is a Nazi, but he clearly courts with the ideology to provoke support.

This is totally forgiveable by the right because Milo is jewish. Somehow this logic doesnt work with Soros.


What is clear though is the shear weight of identity politics that the alt-right subscribe to, eventhough they detest identity politics and condemn leftist liberals for the same.
Not just the alt. right. The regular 'right' also loves identity politics.

It's kind of amusing how the guy that literally posted hoaxes off 4chan in the Las Vegas shooting thread to push his own identity politics is now concerned about the credibility of reporting. :crylaugh:
 

Xarog

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Racism/sexism/whateverism, and for that mind, SJWism only exist in the minds of individuals. They don't have to be about any objective reality for them to affect how people behave towards other people.
So what makes their interests and experiences more important than anyone else's?

I don't think full representation is achievable or even the correct goal. However, disproportionate homogeneity is also greatly concerning; people tend to represent their own interests, and in Trump's cabinet, those interests appear to be white, rich and mostly male.
Well, if people aren't supposed to act in their own interests, then people aren't supposed to complain about whatever subjective BS is floating around in their heads, either.
 

Xarog

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Strange how when it comes to Soros, the right can quite easily say yeah this 14yr old kid who avoided being killed by Nazis was a Nazi.

Not that Milo is a Nazi, but he clearly courts with the ideology to provoke support.

This is totally forgiveable by the right because Milo is jewish. Somehow this logic doesnt work with Soros.


What is clear though is the shear weight of identity politics that the alt-right subscribe to, eventhough they detest identity politics and condemn leftist liberals for the same.
Does Milo spend his own money to fund Spencer and his ilk? No? Then it's not the same thing at all.
 

Xarog

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Not just the alt. right. The regular 'right' also loves identity politics.
Hey, if you can't beat 'em, join 'em, amirite?

I'm still waiting for you to explain what a political platform that isn't predicated on identity politics is supposed to look like. Funny how your answer hasn't been forthcoming.
 

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http://www.newsweek.com/nazi-video-game-wolfenstein-angers-nazis-make-america-nazi-free-again-slogan-679530

NAZI-KILLING VIDEO GAME 'WOLFENSTEIN II' ANGERS NAZIS WITH 'MAKE AMERICA NAZI-FREE AGAIN' SLOGAN

A certain subgroup of folks got angry online with the game-maker, Bethesda Softworks, for producing a product that thinks Nazis are bad. Many claimed they weren't angry about the anti-Nazi stance per se, but rather that the game was tapping into liberal anger. Certainly it is political to co-opt President Donald Trump's "Make America Great Again" slogan, but Bethesda Softworks is hardly the first one to play with the line made famous by the billionaire Republican.
http://www.pcgamer.com/bethesda-embraces-anti-nazi-stance-thats-what-wolfenstein-represents/

Bethesda embraces anti-Nazi stance: That's 'what Wolfenstein represents'

'When it comes to Nazis, you can put us down in the 'against' column.'
:crylaugh:
 

OrbitalDawn

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Trump-tied lobbyists linked to $42M in lobbying in 2017

Dozens of lobbyists are using their connections to President Trump and Vice President Pence to start new firms or expand existing ones, according to a new government watchdog report.

Public Citizen found 44 active lobbyists with ties to Trump or Pence who have contributed nearly $42 million in lobbying revenue and spending through the first half of 2017. The group released its findings in a 58-page report Thursday.

The figure represents the lobbying fees for those working at K Street shops, in addition to the advocacy spending by organizations where the administration-linked lobbyists work in-house.
Swampers coining it.
 

OrbitalDawn

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Trump actively sabotaging healthcare.

Trump sabotage seen on ObamaCare

The Trump administration is taking a hatchet to ObamaCare after failing to pass legislation through Congress repealing President Obama’s signature law.

The administration has cut funding for advertising and outreach by 90 percent, raising the odds that fewer people will join the health-care exchanges during the fall enrollment period.

It has slashed funds by 41 percent for outside groups that help reach and enroll likely ObamaCare consumers.

The enrollment period has also been chopped in half, and the administration announced plans to take down the Healthcare.gov website for maintenance for hours at a time on several days during the sign-up period, two other steps likely to cut into enrollment.
Trump personally told health chief to deny Iowa's urgent Obamacare waiver

Trump told health chief to deny Iowa's Obamacare waiver Trump told health chief to deny Iowa's Obamacare waiver
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President Donald Trump personally told a top federal health official to reject Iowa's pending request to try to stabilize its individual insurance market with a waiver from Obamacare rules, according to a new report.

And a leading Obamacare expert now says that Trump's reported call seems to be part of a broader effort to actually drive up prices of Obamacare health plans so as to "undermine" the Affordable Care Act.
 
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