Donald J. Trump: President of the USA Part II Covfefe

[Unhappy438]

No, right-wing policies leads to jobs.

Taking the covfefe to the next level i see.

 

[konfab]

Can you tell the differnece between Trump and the Republicans and Zuma and the ANC? .

Trump and the Republicans are not scared of their citizens owning copious amounts of firearms. Zuma and the ANC are. And the real fascinating thing is that if you look at most of the weapons used by crooks, they are either weapons stolen from the police or military or they are soviet-era weapons from undeclared ANC arms caches.

And on this topic, it is fascinating to know that the ANC is the only political party in South Africa to have weapons. They have a nice amount of weapons stored at Luthuli house.
http://www.biznews.com/thought-leaders/2017/07/07/guns-luthuli-house-anc/

 

[konfab]

lol!

Like the catastrophic failure in Kansas, which was, in the Republican Governor's own words: A "real life experiment in trickle down economics"?

https://www.businessinsider.com.au/...ting-failed-on-its-own-terms-2017-6?r=US&IR=T

Or the 2008 financial crisis of course... Lots of jobs lost there.

The 2008 financial crisis was triggered by government meddling in the housing market.

 

[Xarog]

Taking the covfefe to the next level i see.

How does perpetually adding more debt until the interest burden bankrupts the country lead to stable employment?

 

[Garson007]

The 2008 financial crisis was triggered by government meddling in the housing market.

Don't forget the bailout which cost trillions, with government directly picking winners.

 

[Garson007]

How does perpetually adding more debt until the interest burden bankrupts the country lead to stable employment?

Or how deregulation (barriers to entry) in the market leads to less employers.

 

[Unhappy438]

How does perpetually adding more debt until the interest burden bankrupts the country lead to stable employment?

Did i say that?

 

[Xarog]

Did i say that?

The right-wing approach of austerity is the alternative, and while it doesn't promote job growth directly, it does lead to a more robust economy over the long term. Debt overhead is ruinous.

 

[Unhappy438]

The right-wing approach of austerity is the alternative, and while it doesn't promote job growth directly, it does lead to a more robust economy over the long term. Debt overhead is ruinous.

Good policies promote job growth, they don't have to be intrinsically left or right wing, different situations call for different means. Dismissing good policies and ideas for partisan reasons is the problem.

 

[konfab]

Good policies promote job growth, they don't have to be intrinsically left or right wing, different situations call for different means. Dismissing good policies and ideas for partisan reasons is the problem.

I fully agree. The problem is partisan politics always plays into account. You take tax for example:
If you made this proposal:
We will close all the tax loopholes in exchange for a lower tax rate across the board.

This does things that both sides of the isle both want, and would be fiscally beneficial well. The problem is that the moment you do this, you will have each party break its promise. You will see higher taxes being slipped in on the left and loopholes introduced by the right.

 

[cerebus]

Colbert:

"Yeah I fired a gun at that guy, but that was before everyone was talking about this whole 'murder trial'."

 

[Unhappy438]

I fully agree. The problem is partisan politics always plays into account. You take tax for example:
If you made this proposal:
We will close all the tax loopholes in exchange for a lower tax rate across the board.

This does things that both sides of the isle both want, and would be fiscally beneficial well. The problem is that the moment you do this, you will have each party break its promise. You will see higher taxes being slipped in on the left and loopholes introduced by the right.

Exactly, unfortunately very few are true to their words in politics.

 

[Garson007]

Centrism is not a solution. It leads to the bloated welfare state and state-worship. A center-right to right-wing government that understands that everything worth defending comes from the people and not the state is good enough for me.

 

[konfab]

Exactly, unfortunately very few are true to their words in politics.

The sad part is it doesn't pay to be truthful. If you are, you get thrown to the floor quicker than an intern in a Clinton administration.

This is why we have constitutions, they make changes difficult to pass in a bipartisan environment. If you can get more than 60% of congress and the house to change something, it should be worth changing.

 

[cerebus]

More right-winger tears.

 

[Xarog]

Good policies promote job growth, they don't have to be intrinsically left or right wing, different situations call for different means.

I concur. This whole thing started cuz OD was playing partisan with his blame, and I merely wanted to set the record straight.

Dismissing good policies and ideas for partisan reasons is the problem.

Agreed, but we need new ideas cuz none of the old ones work anymore.

 

[Garson007]

Agreed, but we need new ideas cuz none of the old ones work anymore.

Game theory works. It's the only way anything works. The best way I know that we can represent game theory without violence or shame is through capitalism. Capitalism works. Sometimes you have to break up monopolies once game theory stops.

 

[Xarog]

Game theory works. It's the only way anything works. The best way I know that we can represent game theory without violence or shame is through capitalism. Capitalism works. Sometimes you have to break up monopolies once game theory stops.

Except you win that game with machines instead of playing with other people. When you tell people they can't play, they tend to come to the conclusion that they're better off making their own game.

 

[Garson007]

Except you win that game with machines instead of playing with other people. When you tell people they can't play, they tend to come to the conclusion that they're better off making their own game.

Again, break up the banks into a million pieces. The stock market is fine and essential for pensions - you just need to decapitate most of the S&P 500.

If anything, for me personally, the biggest issue I have so far with Trump is that he hasn't done anything of note on anti-trust yet.

 

[Xarog]

Again, break up the banks into a million pieces. The stock market is fine and essential for pensions - you just need to decapitate most of the S&P 500.

Doesn't change the fact that there's going to be a massive decrease in the number of overall jobs available. You can't save for a pension if you can't get a job.

If anything, for me personally, the biggest issue I have so far with Trump is that he hasn't done anything of note on anti-trust yet.

Nor will he, imo. He's far more likely to leverage the anti-trust to put America first.