Donald J. Trump: President of the USA Part II Covfefe

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Coloured me unsurprised, a smorgasbord of garbage conspiracy theory/fake news websites making entirely unsubstantiated claims. WND, GatewayPundit and YourNewsWire. :rolleyes:

He was part owner in a pizza joint, too. Why not go full Pizzagate, Xarog?

I'm not sure what your link between the two is, but the last guy to talk to Peter Smith regarded the "suicide" story as being suspicious, so I wouldn't be at all surprised if someone tried to bump him off to shut him up.

So you're saying Michael Flynn bumped him off?
 
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Coloured me unsurprised, a smorgasbord of garbage conspiracy theory/fake news websites making entirely unsubstantiated claims. WND, GatewayPundit and YourNewsWire. :rolleyes:
They should just call rational wiki anti-conservapedia and be done with it. It's so anti-factual as to serve as a source of disinformation. When are you going to wake up and smell the SJW coffee?

He was part owner in a pizza joint, too. Why not go full Pizzagate, Xarog?
How many deaths have to happen in a way that is truly fortuitious for the Clintons before you'll start to consider the possibility that they're the one arranging things for their convenience?

So you're saying Michael Flynn bumped him off?
I don't think the revelation was bad enough to have Flynn kill the guy out of revenge when the guy was trying to help the Trump campaign, so unless you suspect he knew something more significant, I'd have to say no.
 

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They should just call rational wiki anti-conservapedia and be done with it. It's so anti-factual as to serve as a source of disinformation. When are you going to wake up and smell the SJW coffee?

Yes, "anti-factual" by linking directly to the garbage websites' 'articles' and documenting/debunking what kind of trash they routinely publish.

But please, continue to defend actual fake news websites while whining about the MSM.

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How many deaths have to happen in a way that is truly fortuitious for the Clintons before you'll start to consider the possibility that they're the one arranging things for their convenience?

How many conspiracy theories are going to be invented about them before you realise you've fallen down a delusional right wing rabbit hole?
 

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Yes, "anti-factual" by linking directly to the garbage websites' 'articles' and documenting/debunking what kind of trash they routinely publish.
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Gender_expression

It's so nice when your authority on a particular topic is someone who characerised Newton's Principia Mathematica as a rape manual and whose theories have absolutely no facts to verify them. No ideological biases to be found there, no sirree.

But please, continue to defend actual fake news websites while whining about the MSM.
I didn't defend any sites, I just rubbished your sources. I don't trust rationalwiki's right-think (or is that left-think?).

How many conspiracy theories are going to be invented about them before you realise you've fallen down a delusional right wing rabbit hole?
The guy dies a week before he's supposed to testify and your first reaction is that anyone suggesting someone had a motive to kill him is engaging in delusions. Do you expect to be taken seriously?
 

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http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Gender_expression

It's so nice when your authority on a particular topic is someone who characerised Newton's Principia Mathematica as a rape manual and whose theories have absolutely no facts to verify them. No ideological biases to be found there, no sirree.

What? :confused:

You can insert random red herrings all you want, doesn't distract from the fact that you posted literal fake news.

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I didn't defend any sites, I just rubbished your sources. I don't trust rationalwiki's right-think (or is that left-think?).

Yes, quite telling when you post garbage and don't even try to defend how they're literally making things up and you run with it anyway because of your confirmation bias.

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The guy dies a week before he's supposed to testify and your first reaction is that anyone suggesting someone had a motive to kill him is engaging in delusions. Do you expect to be taken seriously?

It would help if proponents of this idea would stop posting delusional conspiracy theories based on fiction. That they don't tells me a lot about the idea.
 

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What? :confused:

You can insert random red herrings all you want, doesn't distract from the fact that you posted literal fake news.
I'm not inserting random red-herrings. I'm showing you how rationalwiki is blind to facts that don't fit their agenda and their presentation of the facts is so slanted as to be untrustworthy. I can go all over the site to find rabid pro-feminist garbage if you'd like, but the bottom line is that the community has been captured by group think.

So if you want to claim that it's fake news, find a better source to make your claims.

Yes, quite telling when you post garbage and don't even try to defend how they're literally making things up and you run with it anyway because of your confirmation bias.
Rationalwiki is the one making things up here. Who else is making anything up remains to be seen.

It would help if proponents of this idea would stop posting delusional conspiracy theories based on fiction. That they don't tells me a lot about the idea.
Which claims are delusional, exactly? Is the guy dead or not? Was he connected to the clintons in some apparently shady business or not?
 

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The ‘Democratic Plot’ Conspiracy Theory About Trump Jr. Meeting Is So Dumb It’s Hilarious

It’s hard to fathom how reasonably intelligent people fall into the trap of believing the most ridiculous of stories. Dr. Theodore Woodward came up with the aphorism, “When you hear hoofbeats, think of horses, not zebras.” It was a warning to medical students who want to believe the common cold is an exotic disease. Law enforcement uses the phrase as well. The solution to a crime is usually the simplest explanation, not a twisted web of events.

/Argh, cough cough, cough cough cough..

Full article: http://www.redstate.com/jaycaruso/2...racy-theory-trump-jr.-meeting-dumb-hilarious/
 

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I'm not inserting random red-herrings. I'm showing you how rationalwiki is blind to facts that don't fit their agenda and their presentation of the facts is so slanted as to be untrustworthy. I can go all over the site to find rabid pro-feminist garbage if you'd like, but the bottom line is that the community has been captured by group think.

It absolutely is a red herring. You post fake news, I call you out on it, then you start whining about gender expression and feminism. Entirely unrelated to the topic.

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So if you want to claim that it's fake news, find a better source to make your claims.

It would be cool if you would do that.

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Rationalwiki is the one making things up here. Who else is making anything up remains to be seen.

ZH cites Gatewaypundit claiming "he acknowledged that his life was in danger because he was outspoken on the criminal activities of the Clinton Foundation". The Gatewaypundit link doesn't even say that, although it says he was set to testify against Clinton, with zero substantiation.

Then ZH cites a 'quote' from him about the Clinton Foundation, as per YourNewsWire, again with no substantiation.

Other YourNewsWire 'stories' include the Queen threatening to abdicate if people voted against Brexit, Pizzagate, Birther conspiracies, Katy Perry 'admitting' being an Illuminati slave, that there were 25 million illegal votes for Clinton, that women absorb and retain DNA from every man they sleep with, that they guy who discovered the HIV virus admitted he invented it, that explorers found the real Noah's Ark in Turkey, that an 8 year old is using crystal grids to transmute negative energy, wtf ever that is supposed to mean.

Then ZH cites WND saying he told acquaintances he "fears for his life", again with no substantiation.

Other WND 'stories' include soy beans and soy milk causes your penis to shrink and turns you gay, Obama is literally the devil, because a "demon" was photographed next to him in Kenya, Obama was planning to build an actual death star, Anders Breivik was a false flag, that a group of lions saved Christians from ISIS militants, Obama was married to a man, and of course a slew of Birther conspiracies.

I mean... Seriously, Xarog... For someone who whines about the MSM as much as you do, you are incredibly credulous when it comes to utter bilge when it confirms your biases.

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Which claims are delusional, exactly? Is the guy dead or not? Was he connected to the clintons in some apparently shady business or not?

So you don't think the Clintons are knocking people off?
 

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Another Trump toadie excuse shot down.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brief...e-responds-to-trump-lawyer-russia-meeting-not

The Secret Service responded on Sunday to President Trump’s personal lawyer Jay Sekulow’s claim that Donald Trump Jr.’s meeting with a Russian lawyer during the campaign would not have happened if the Secret Service had considered it “nefarious.”

“If this was nefarious, why'd the Secret Service allow these people in?” Sekulow asked on ABC’s “This Week.”

"The president had Secret Service protection at that point," he said. "That raised a question with me.”
However, that protection did not extend to Trump Jr. at the time, according to the Secret Service.

"Donald Trump, Jr. was not a protectee of the USSS in June, 2016. Thus we would not have screened anyone he was meeting with at that time,” Secret Service spokesman Mason Brayman said in a statement to Reuters on Sunday.
 

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It absolutely is a red herring. You post fake news, I call you out on it, then you start whining about gender expression and feminism. Entirely unrelated to the topic.
You called me out on it and used a ****ty source which I don't accept. So that's your bad source and your word for it.

It would be cool if you would do that.
You first.

I mean... Seriously, Xarog... For someone who whines about the MSM as much as you do, you are incredibly credulous when it comes to utter bilge when it confirms your biases.
You haven't actually shown why the claims are false, only that the haven't been substantiated to your satisfaction. And the only thing that I have done is to say that it is a reasonable possibility, which it remains. The WND article gives enough specifics and the Clinton Foundation's corruption in Haiti is something that has been repeatedly mentioned elsewhere, so the idea that a former associate of the Clintons might have dirt to dish out is hardly beyond the realm of plausibility.

So you don't think the Clintons are knocking people off?
I think that the co-incedences are frequent enough that the question should not be dismissed out of hand. Do you deny that John Ashe's death last year was pretty fortuitous for the Clintons and their political ambitions?
 

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You called me out on it and used a ****ty source which I don't accept. So that's your bad source and your word for it.

Yes, pointing out what these looney tunes fake news websites have posted before makes it a 'schitty source'. How are they wrong on those websites?

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You haven't actually shown why the claims are false, only that the haven't been substantiated to your satisfaction. And the only thing that I have done is to say that it is a reasonable possibility, which it remains.

"Trump has 5 children tied up in his basement who he whips routinely." - Peter W. Smith

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The WND article gives enough specifics and the Clinton Foundation's corruption in Haiti is something that has been repeatedly mentioned elsewhere, so the idea that a former associate of the Clintons might have dirt to dish out is hardly beyond the realm of plausibility.

No, it doesn't. It contains yet more unsubstantiated claims.
 

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Trump administration continuing to baldly lie.

Sessions Argues ‘Sanctuary’ Cities Breed Crime By Citing Study That Says They Don’t

When Attorney General Jeff Sessions said Wednesday that a study had found so-called sanctuary cities have more violent crime than others, it came as a surprise to the people who conducted the research.

“When cities like Philadelphia, Boston or San Francisco advertise that they have these policies, the criminals are taking notice, too. They’ve got a good idea of where they might want to go, it seems to me,” Sessions said during a speech railing against jurisdictions that don’t fully cooperate with deportation efforts. “According to a recent study from the University of California, Riverside, cities with these policies have more violent crime on average than those that don’t.”

But that’s not what the study showed, according to one of its authors. In fact, it found that there’s no evidence of sanctuary policies having any effect on crime ― and researchers say they believe Sessions and the conservative media are twisting their study to fit their own narratives about the dangers of immigration.
 

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Yes, pointing out what these looney tunes fake news websites have posted before makes it a 'schitty source'. How are they wrong on those websites?
No, that's not what makes it a bad source, its blatant left-wing bias is what makes it a bad source.

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Cultural_Marxism
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Anita_Sarkeesian

I mean, I could fetch more links, but these things are so slanted as to be ridiculous.

"Trump has 5 children tied up in his basement who he whips routinely." - Peter W. Smith
You don't like the source, but that doesn't mean they're wrong.

No, it doesn't. It contains yet more unsubstantiated claims.
Tell me, what would it take for those claims to be substantiated in your eyes?
 

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I mean, I could fetch more links, but these things are so slanted as to be ridiculous.

Okay, Mr. "websites that publish things about Obama literally being a demon and Katy Perry being an Illuminati slave is good".

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You don't like the source, but that doesn't mean they're wrong.

No hint of self awareness here? Not even a little...?

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Tell me, what would it take for those claims to be substantiated in your eyes?

Evidence that the things they claim happened, actually happened.

And you know, not having years and years long track records of making things up and spreading fake 'stories'.
 

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Okay, Mr. "websites that publish things about Obama literally being a demon and Katy Perry being an Illuminati slave is good".
Well, if we have to rule out points of view because of some craziness then your fixation on the Russia hoax excludes anything you have to say...

No hint of self awareness here? Not even a little...?
Actually, it's your lack of awareness that's the problem here. I don't know why you think partisan sources of information can provide trustworthy accounts of the competition in this day and age. If I see a story on CNN that I think is plausible, I'm not going to throw it out of the window just because it's CNN, even though I know they're an agenda driven bunch of liars. The fact of the matter is that legitimate stories have been squashed in the past by the MSM and this could turn out to be one of those times.

Evidence that the things they claim happened, actually happened.

And you know, not having years and years long track records of making things up and spreading fake 'stories'.
Well, I'm sure if there's something to this story that it will eventually be brought to light.
 
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