Donald J. Trump: President of the USA Part II Covfefe

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Unhappy438

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I love how this is panning out. Democrats trying to block Trump's wall. The Government institutions shut down as they can't agree. Dems crying and want Trump to pay these workers because of the Shutdown caused by the Democrats. Trump refuses. Democrats are looking the fool more and more. Best of it all, Trump will still get the wall as he can just declare a State of Emergency and use Army funds to fund the wall, or at least part of it.

Democrats are getting schooled HARD :D
:laugh: EFF levels of delusion.
 

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No problemo, just declare a state of emergency when there is clearly no emergency at the border and siphon billions of dollars from the army so that you don't look like a total ******* in front of your constituents.
Any debate around the actual situation at the border aside, Trump is going to use the failure of the state of emergency declaration to show his voters that he is not the reason for failing to build the wall. Just like not funding this wall is a political move to try seriously hurt Trump, his response is going to be to counter that.
 

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Any debate around the actual situation at the border aside, Trump is going to use the failure of the state of emergency declaration to show his voters that he is not the reason for failing to build the wall. Just like not funding this wall is a political move to try seriously hurt Trump, his response is going to be to counter that.
Do you think his state of emergency declaration will fail?
 

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Any debate around the actual situation at the border aside, Trump is going to use the failure of the state of emergency declaration to show his voters that he is not the reason for failing to build the wall. Just like not funding this wall is a political move to try seriously hurt Trump, his response is going to be to counter that.
He said to his voters that Mexico will pay for the wall, who's fault is it if he fails to get the funds from them?
 
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Any debate around the actual situation at the border aside, Trump is going to use the failure of the state of emergency declaration to show his voters that he is not the reason for failing to build the wall. Just like not funding this wall is a political move to try seriously hurt Trump, his response is going to be to counter that.
Trump will declare the national emergency and get the wall built after he feels he has tortured Nancy Pelosi enough. And the people will love him for it. :p
 

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Do you think his state of emergency declaration will fail?
Yes, because it's a huge stretch constitutionally. And I am willing to bet he knows it and so do his legal advisors. If it passes, it will set up a very bad constitutional precedent, which will be used against the Republicans in future, or against the interests of the American people.

The wall should be funded and is not a massive ask. It is not because this will be a massive political win for Trump. Everything else around this is unnecessary noise. Trump was even willing to make amnesty concessions for illegal migrants in the country to get his wall. That is quite a concession, and just shows how politics is driving this.
 

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Yeah because Mexico is not actively doing anything at all and Trump isn't bothered in the least by the nothing that they're doing.

schooled!
I see you are well triggered son, when does Trump start implementing these steps he outlined to get Mexico to pay for the wall - https://assets.donaldjtrump.com/Pay_for_the_Wall.pdf ? Or does he just let them continue to school him, he will look very weak and pathetic if he does.
 

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The gist of it is that the US Constitution doesn’t contain any national emergency provision that would allow Trump to spend money on the wall which as not been allocated by Congress. And it does not look like wall funding will be granted by Congress either.

Also, it's really a stretch and, IMO, does not fall within the spirit of such declaration, nor would it conform to the definition of an emergency. It would be a very ambitious overreach of power. No matter how much we support someone, we shouldn't be happy with the idea of any government reaching for so much power and getting away with it.
 
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