Donald J. Trump: President of the USA Part II Covfefe

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Emjay

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AlmightyBender said:
Not 100% correct... It was set up to investigate Russian interference in the election. Nothing more.

The Trump campaign is a secondary actor in that event that was discovered through the course of the investigation. Republicans created this special council in complete ignorance of what it would lead to in the future I think.
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And the evidence to launch all of this was the outcome of the Democrats trying to find ways to discredit Trump in the run up to the 2016 elections.
 
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Emjay said:
And the evidence to launch all of this was the outcome of the Democrats trying to find ways to discredit Trump in the run up to the 2016 elections.
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You know that this is not true.

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I agree with you that Mueller was appointed in '17. The FBI started this investigation sooner though
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And it is abundantly clear that that original FBI investigation was not directed towards Trump, but towards Mr. Carter Page.

Trump has done a good job of discrediting himself; when the FBI eventually instigated an investigation into the man, you can be sure that they did so with good reason.
 
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scudsucker said:
You know that this is not true.

Trump has done a good job of discrediting himself; if the FBI instigated an investigation into the man, you can be sure that they did so with good reason.
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Don't you know anything about the Steele dossier?

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/21/us/politics/carter-page-fisa.html

Republicans portrayed the Steele dossier — which also contained salacious claims about Mr. Trump apparently not included in the wiretap application — as dubious, and blasted the F.B.I. for using material from it while not telling the court that the Democratic National Committee and the Hillary Clinton campaign had funded the research.
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scudsucker said:
Lets try this again, with BOLD indicating something important for you and Emjay to think about:
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Ok, now I'm just going to quote the paragraphs from the link I pasted:

The Washington Free Beacon did not bankroll the Steele dossier, a highly dubious work of opposition research alleging the Russians have compromising personal and financial information on Donald Trump.

Rather, the conservative newsroom hired the same research firm that later created it, Fusion GPS, in 2016 to investigate Trump and other Republican candidates during the GOP primaries.

After Trump had won the nomination, the Free Beacon dropped the project. It was at that point that Democratic operatives swooped in, bringing along with them former British spy Christopher Steele. It is from Steele’s work that we get all this Russia business.



To reiterate, the Free Beacon had nothing to do with Steele or his work on the dossier.

“The Free Beacon had no knowledge of or connection to the Steele dossier, did not pay for the dossier, and never had contact with, knowledge of, or provided payment for any work performed by Christopher Steele,” the group’s top brass said in a statement. “Nor did we have any knowledge of the relationship between Fusion GPS and the Democratic National Committee, Perkins Coie, and the Clinton campaign.”

For some reason, though, media keep claiming incorrectly that the Free Beacon ("Republicans") initially funded the Russia file.
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As you were, Captain Oblivious.
 
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AlmightyBender said:
Not 100% correct... It was set up to investigate Russian interference in the election. Nothing more.

The Trump campaign is a secondary actor in that event that was discovered through the course of the investigation. Republicans created this special council in complete ignorance of what it would lead to in the future I think.
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(i) any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump: and

(ii) any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation: and

(iii) any other matters within the scope of 28 C.F.R. § 600.4(a)
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https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/967231/download
 
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Gingerbeardman said:
Lol. Why are you bringing up pointless red herrings? Seems you can't actually answer Emjay's points substantively.
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Well, Gingerbeardman, why don't you tell us which organisation, and on which side of the political divide it falls, it was that initiated the opposition research into Trump; and, in your opinion, what eventually happened with that research?
 
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